Snorting Heroin has curbed my Depression and Crack/Alcohol Addiction

[panthdave]

I know will get many bad comments on this but since I have been snorting Heroin my life has become normal again..I was a crazed monster on Alcohol/Crack and Cocaine....I was not healthy, going to jail, etc etc...Was a total disaster for those 10 years....I started snorting heroin for the last two years and my life has dramatically changed, I do not get arrested,family is happy,and I take care of all my responsibilities and I am so much happier in the social scene and with family. I take care of myself even I just finished taking care of all my teeth and have a clean slate of health from the doctor. Blood Pressure is down....I have become a normal person...I am not depressed anymore. I only have a lite beer sometimes. I work normal now. Yes I changed my addiction but snorting heroin has put me in a place where I am normal and take care of myself. I do not smoke or shoot heroin but I do not want that rush and only looking for the even high from snorting heroin...I would like to hear from some open people how heroin can cure depression. I know history has said Heroin was once used for alcoholics but do not know if it was from snorting heroin...Seems I have a very even stable high now and it is amazing....Any open discussions on this would be great on Heroin used correctly to treat raging alcoholics and crack monsters like I was and also depression...

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Hi there panthdave. Basic Drug Discussion is more for simple specific questions about drugs, I don't think your post really fits here, but I'm not sure where on Bluelight it would fit to be honest. It might not stay open.

Heroin does not "cure" depression, it only temporarily masks it. In the long run it makes you more depressed and you eventually have to keep increasing your dose and not go without it. I know what you mean about it, but it's extremely difficult to use heroin therapeutically and the risks and drawbacks (many of them due to the fact that it is illegal and impure, and highly dependence-causing, meaning sooner or later you can't function without it) outweigh the benefits in the vast majority of situations. I do think it saved me from suicide when I was younger, it did serve a purpose for me, but there are MUCH better options.

 

[thesameoldfears]

It sounds like you're in the "honeymoon" phase of opiate addiction. Opiates can make you feel great, even trick you into believing you're no depressed. A lot of people with depression and particularly bipolar disorder, self medicate with drugs. And it works in the sense that it can mask the underlying disorder, until it doesn't. Eventually the addiction will spiral out of control and you'll be worse off than before you started.

You may just be feeling better because as you said heroin provides a more "even" high than being a crack addict. A drug that allows several hours between doses can seem like it evens out your mood a lot more than crack which often has the user ceaving minutes after their last hit.

But it does not cure depression. It will not fix your life. It will only lead you to worse places eventually. Perhaps examine why you feel the need to self medicate with substances.

 

[panthdave]

Maybe I worded the post wrong....Comparing to drinking,smoking crack and using cocaine which I did my life was spiraled out of control and snorting heroin has not caused any problems and I have control on my life..compared to my life previous..I eat normal, sleep normal, socialize normal....No blackouts or staying up on a crack binges, and have money in my pocket....and right now I cannot imagine snorting heroin for the last few years will cause me drama...So smooth for the last few years now....Sorry I posted in the wrong forum swimmingdancer...I just wanted to post this because Heroin has such a bad reputation but really Coke,Crack,Alcohol to me is more destructive

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

Heroin can be extremely destructive, this may sound blunt but you can't replace one addiction with another, whether you are functional on heroin or not.
It's an expensive habit forming drug, and there's no way around that.
Kudos to quitting crack/cocaine, it can be quite the devil, but replacing it with another evil is simply not gonna work

There's no short way around it, if you can't quit crack without substituting it with another drug, then you have some "me" work to do

 

[toobent]

Everyone is right, but if you've managed to keep your heroin use in check for 2 years that's pretty impressive.

I started smoking gear when I was about 14. I wasn't depressed beforehand, but when I finally quit at around 17-18 I went through some pretty bad depression. Over the years I've (ab)used prescription opioids which always make me feel great, but when I get to the point of dependence I get down on myself and then have to endure mild depression during the initial withdrawal stages. Granted it's only mild and short-lived, but each and every time I ask myself why allow it to get that far.

So just be aware that if you start abusing it to a point where it does become a problem and you need to quit, you'll most likely suffer some depression and other withdrawal symptoms that really suck; insomnia, and physical pain being the worst.

 

[Halif]

Hi Panthdave

It's great to hear about the massive improvement to your quality of life over the last two years. I don't have anywhere near the same level of experience with crack and related issues that you described, but I do know firsthand that alcohol and potent, short lasting stims make for a horror combo addiction. Talk about a fucking roller-coaster ride.

I also can relate to the impact that heroin has had in stablising your life. That drug, and other opiates can be a god-send for some people.

I just think that praising heroin - or any severely addictive drug - will never go down well on this forum, because it's all about harm reduction. And while it is certainly true that in your case, the use of heroin has actually kept you out of trouble and improved your life, it just can't be encouraged or praised because how it will work out with other people, or even yourself, in the long run is impossible to say.

But hey, as I said, it's good to hear that it has worked out really well for you.

Take care

 

[bronson]

I'll first echo what others are saying, it sounds like for you specifically, an improvement has been made, and I am very happy to hear that you are feeling better. That aside, one can't simply discount the addictive and destructive potential that heroin through any ROA has. The main thing that concerns me, is that other people reading this might think that because it worked for you thus far it might work for them.

Everyone is vastly different, and many people may end in an even worse place. I get the feeling from your posts that you really do desire to become sober as a whole and that's no easy road to take. Progress is good, but to say what is the lesser of two evils in general is simply too speculative. I'm going to close this for that reason. Please don't feel bad, you've done nothing wrong, in fact I'd encourage you to post about what you're going through over in Sober Living. Just bear in mind their guidelines, mainly not posting triggering material, i.e. glorifying heroin as a cure to other addictions. They can be read in full at the top of that forum.

With the right approach to how you word your post, you'll find a ton of insightful information from some of the most caring people I know on ways to lessen and hopefully eventually break your addictions all together.

Feel free to PM me if you have any questions.