Mycotheologist
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I just found this article which is interesting:
http://www.entheology.org/edoto/anmviewer.asp?a=357
being well versed in chemistry and pharmacology, I spotted a few inaccuracies in their logic but they still bring up interesting ideas. The idea that certain smells can activate specific pathways in the brain is an interesting one and we all know it to be true. We all know the way a smell can bring back memories and the emotions we felt at the time but certain smells can bring up emotions by themselves. For example, smelling shit makes us feel bad, thats a built in response that protects us because feces are riddled with potentially harmful bacteria. Certain smells may be able to trigger built in responses which activate neurochemical pathways. Smelling incense has always made me feel funny. This thread is geared more towards ingesting large quantities of these incense substances to determine if they contain psychoactive compounds. Heres an article on a psychoactive compound found in frankincense not too long ago:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/release....htm?sms_ss=facebook&at_xt=4d06ede36f6d807b,0
In that article, they say:
"Certain essential oils are known to produce extreme inebriation and hallucinations, although their exact physiological mechanisms are not completely understood.
The following list of plants and essential oils that are derived from them is by no mean comprehensive, there are still many other plants that need further study. The following incenses have been known to posses special properties since antiquity: camphor, cedar, cinnamon, cloves, copal, coriander, damiana, juiper, laurel, lignum aloe, mugwort, rosemary, sade tree, salvia. Some of the active constituents of these essential oils are eugenol, ledol, myristicin, safrole, and thujone. "
Certain essential oils are known to produce "extreme" inebriation and hallucinations? Judgin by the list they give, sounds like bullshit to me but I'm an open minded man so I'll have to put some of this to the test for myself. I never tried it but I hear thujone causes hallucinations. Sage contains thujone so essential oil of sage most likely has extreme psychoactive effects. As for all the other ones, I'm highly skeptical that they can produce "extreme" effects. Right now, I have sage, frankincense resin and copal resin. I'm going to research them to make sure they are safe to smoke (or ingest in other ways) then put them to the test. Frankincense first as I'm having problems with depression and anxiety right now. I'll be the guinea pig for frankincense and copal. Anyone willing to be the guinea pig for some of these other substances? We can tick myristicin off the list, we've all heard reports of people ingesting nutmeg and the effects that come with it. The other ones, I don't know about. One might assume an innocuous, household substance like rosemary couldn't possibly be psychoactive but at high enough doses, maybe it is.
Its essential we research what compounds they contain first though. Sage contains thujone which is pretty dangerous so be careful with sage extract. Frankincense contains a relatively newly discovered compound called incensole acetate. I know very little about that. I know very little about everything else in that list.
MODS: This thread would be better in OD.
http://www.entheology.org/edoto/anmviewer.asp?a=357
being well versed in chemistry and pharmacology, I spotted a few inaccuracies in their logic but they still bring up interesting ideas. The idea that certain smells can activate specific pathways in the brain is an interesting one and we all know it to be true. We all know the way a smell can bring back memories and the emotions we felt at the time but certain smells can bring up emotions by themselves. For example, smelling shit makes us feel bad, thats a built in response that protects us because feces are riddled with potentially harmful bacteria. Certain smells may be able to trigger built in responses which activate neurochemical pathways. Smelling incense has always made me feel funny. This thread is geared more towards ingesting large quantities of these incense substances to determine if they contain psychoactive compounds. Heres an article on a psychoactive compound found in frankincense not too long ago:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/release....htm?sms_ss=facebook&at_xt=4d06ede36f6d807b,0
In that article, they say:
"Certain essential oils are known to produce extreme inebriation and hallucinations, although their exact physiological mechanisms are not completely understood.
The following list of plants and essential oils that are derived from them is by no mean comprehensive, there are still many other plants that need further study. The following incenses have been known to posses special properties since antiquity: camphor, cedar, cinnamon, cloves, copal, coriander, damiana, juiper, laurel, lignum aloe, mugwort, rosemary, sade tree, salvia. Some of the active constituents of these essential oils are eugenol, ledol, myristicin, safrole, and thujone. "
Certain essential oils are known to produce "extreme" inebriation and hallucinations? Judgin by the list they give, sounds like bullshit to me but I'm an open minded man so I'll have to put some of this to the test for myself. I never tried it but I hear thujone causes hallucinations. Sage contains thujone so essential oil of sage most likely has extreme psychoactive effects. As for all the other ones, I'm highly skeptical that they can produce "extreme" effects. Right now, I have sage, frankincense resin and copal resin. I'm going to research them to make sure they are safe to smoke (or ingest in other ways) then put them to the test. Frankincense first as I'm having problems with depression and anxiety right now. I'll be the guinea pig for frankincense and copal. Anyone willing to be the guinea pig for some of these other substances? We can tick myristicin off the list, we've all heard reports of people ingesting nutmeg and the effects that come with it. The other ones, I don't know about. One might assume an innocuous, household substance like rosemary couldn't possibly be psychoactive but at high enough doses, maybe it is.
Its essential we research what compounds they contain first though. Sage contains thujone which is pretty dangerous so be careful with sage extract. Frankincense contains a relatively newly discovered compound called incensole acetate. I know very little about that. I know very little about everything else in that list.
MODS: This thread would be better in OD.
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