Slight Alice in Wonderland Syndrome after Drug use

[^Xayo]

So pretty much everytime when I do drugs and go to bed I am experiencing some visual distortions going along with the "Alice in Wonderland" Syndrome. Nice name huh ?

When I close my eyes it is impossible for me to imagine things in a normal size. Everything get's really small. It get's most annoying when I'm masturbating in bed with eyes closed and my dick changes it's size (well the perception of size changes).
It's not a big deal to me since it just happens like 10 minutes before I'm falling asleep. Still I wonder if everyone else experienced this.

For other people as a reference. Remember when you were a little kid and had very high temperature and you somehow found that stuff weighed much more / much less / was much bigger / smaller than it used to be ?

 

[Super_Chronic]

When you say 'do drugs' ... that is pretty vague. What drugs have you noticed more pronounced effects with ?

 

[Lazyscience]

shit, i used to get this when i was a kid but i never knew there was a name for it. thats really interesting.

 

[darkrom]

shit, i used to get this when i was a kid but i never knew there was a name for it. thats really interesting.

Me too...I had this experience MANY nights long before I even took my first hit of cannabis. No idea what caused this but it pretty much stopped completely after a while. I used to say "everything is far away when I close my eyes" and really freak out my parents. It's happened once or twice in the last several years and is something I won't forget. I really wanna know what causes it. If you just open your eyes it seems to stop immediately. Once you close your eyes again it usually won't continue to happen again that night. I wonder if it is more related to something like vertigo (which I don't have) or motion sickness (i do have) than drug use. I mean I certainly wasn't taking drugs at 8 years old.

 

[doppelganga196]

Yeah dude when i was like 7 to 11 years old i'd get bad earache & high fever & would think i was stuck to the ceiling looking down at the room the wrong way though a pair of binoculars!

Other times i'd feel like small, random, objects were enormous, like too big to hold. I just cant quite describe it. Another time i was raving at the top of my lungs about how i wanted my grand prix t-shirt which didn't even exist & was looking at my parents like i'd never seen them before in my life.

Around the age of 14 when me & some friends were partying on ecstacy pretty much every weekend for about 4 months, me & mon ami Adam would both talk about how when we lay down to sleep at night we'd slip into a trip rather thaan sleep & i saw some truly bizzare shit man - traffic lights appearing in mid air in my room, thinking i'd become a giant, then feeling like i was in a dolls house & a lot of other CRAZY shit i cant remember now lol! I'll post more i f i can remember any.

Cool thread by the way. Never heard this phenomenom discussed before; really is weird thinking.

 

[drewbocop]

I used to get this way when I was younger too! And sometimes now, at 23, if I'm stoned, drunk, on random substances: uppers, downers, whatever, I'll get this weird sensation when I close my eyes where I'll see objects whether they're actual objects or just shapes like a big cube or something lol and they'll get realllllllllly big, then reallllllly small. It's a very strange sensation; hard to explain. It's not pleasant really either. Kind of scary. My parents thought I was crazy too. Haha! It hasn't happened in some time.

 

[Mr-Tambourine-Man]

"When I was a child I had a fever, my hands felt just like two balloons. Now I've got that feeling once again, I can't explain, you would not understand, this is not how I am. I have become comfortably numb."

 

[Thomas29]

Holy this is some like weird shit. But to answer your question YES I feel EXACTLY the same thing when I masterbate and sleep to SOMETIMES not all the time. But I am not sure I might do it all the time and just got used to it and not care or it just does not matter to me anymore not sure.

 

[^Xayo]

I get it on pretty much any substance really. Kinda funny that everyone seems to know that feeling :'D

 

[k20]

Ye
Other times i'd feel like small, random, objects were enormous, like too big to hold. I just cant quite describe it.
is weird thinking.

Exactly what I used to feel.

The ceiling...or cube/box is just too large to handle.

 

[Jabberwocky]

i think i'll send this over to The Dark Side = feel free to send back or do as you with TDS Mods

 

[n3ophy7e]

I think we should all appreciate the fact that the actual name "Alice in Wonderland Syndrome" is given to and reserved for people who actually suffer from these symptoms on a daily basis, to the point where it interferes with their everyday functioning. If a person has bona fide AIW syndrome, they are unable to walk down a flight of stairs, through hallways, or even in to the next room because they cannot accurately perceive how much space their body is taking up within that area. They then obviously cannot drive, go in to public spaces, so cannot do their shopping or socialise etc. It is a very rare condition and can be extremely disruptive to a person's life.

I used to get this way when I was younger too! And sometimes now, at 23, if I'm stoned, drunk, on random substances: uppers, downers, whatever, I'll get this weird sensation when I close my eyes where I'll see objects whether they're actual objects or just shapes like a big cube or something lol and they'll get realllllllllly big, then reallllllly small. It's a very strange sensation; hard to explain. It's not pleasant really either. Kind of scary. My parents thought I was crazy too. Haha! It hasn't happened in some time.

I'm not downplaying what you've experienced at all because it does sound strange and I can imagine that its alarming to you, but what you've described here doesn't really sound like Alice in Wonderland Syndrome. From what I have read, AIW syndrome is more about how we perceive our body/limbs/etc within the physical space that it occupies, not closed-eyed visuals/hallucinations.

Around the age of 14 when me & some friends were partying on ecstacy pretty much every weekend for about 4 months, me & mon ami Adam would both talk about how when we lay down to sleep at night we'd slip into a trip rather thaan sleep & i saw some truly bizzare shit man - traffic lights appearing in mid air in my room, thinking i'd become a giant, then feeling like i was in a dolls house & a lot of other CRAZY shit i cant remember now lol! I'll post more i f i can remember any.

MDMA use/abuse is quite well-known for causing sleep paralysis, which can cause visual, auditory and tactile hallucinations. So this might explain what you experienced?

Another time i was raving at the top of my lungs about how i wanted my grand prix t-shirt which didn't even exist & was looking at my parents like i'd never seen them before in my life.

This is also not AIW syndrome, just delerium caused by high fever.
However the other stuff you described about viewing the room as though it was through binoculars and feeling that normal-sized objects were huge, ARE AIW symptoms.

Again, from what I've read, most people experience brief flashes of AIW symptoms every now and then, most frequently when we are drifting off to sleep. However this doesn't mean we all have AIW syndrome, only that we are experiencing a temporary alteration in body-space perception. AIW is a syndrome that is really not well-understood yet so I don't think anyone knows why these symptoms occur.

 

[doppelganga196]

I think we should all appreciate the fact that the actual name "Alice in Wonderland Syndrome" is given to and reserved for people who actually suffer from these symptoms on a daily basis, to the point where it interferes with their everyday functioning. If a person has bona fide AIW syndrome, they are unable to walk down a flight of stairs, through hallways, or even in to the next room because they cannot accurately perceive how much space their body is taking up within that area. They then obviously cannot drive, go in to public spaces, so cannot do their shopping or socialise etc. It is a very rare condition and can be extremely disruptive to a person's life.



I'm not downplaying what you've experienced at all because it does sound strange and I can imagine that its alarming to you, but what you've described here doesn't really sound like Alice in Wonderland Syndrome. From what I have read, AIW syndrome is more about how we perceive our body/limbs/etc within the physical space that it occupies, not closed-eyed visuals/hallucinations.


MDMA use/abuse is quite well-known for causing sleep paralysis, which can cause visual, auditory and tactile hallucinations. So this might explain what you experienced?


This is also not AIW syndrome, just delerium caused by high fever.
However the other stuff you described about viewing the room as though it was through binoculars and feeling that normal-sized objects were huge, ARE AIW symptoms.

Again, from what I've read, most people experience brief flashes of AIW symptoms every now and then, most frequently when we are drifting off to sleep. However this doesn't mean we all have AIW syndrome, only that we are experiencing a temporary alteration in body-space perception. AIW is a syndrome that is really not well-understood yet so I don't think anyone knows why these symptoms occur.

Nice 1. I never suggested i was in the true grip of 'AIW Syndrome', just that i can relate to some of the weird shit Alice can do...

 

[Wolfmans_BrothEr]

Yea the cube shit i would always get as a kid. It was weird but I kinda liked it, it never really had me worried tho. Does anyone know why this happens and more so why when your young?

 

[Alice Practice]

I'm currently completely sober because of this. It's strange, there's very clearly properties to how we overall perceive space and environment and man you come to appreciate them when they start getting messed with. Nothing like closing your eyes and having a wall close in on you. All senses seem to tie into this effect, for example I think we somewhat hear ambient noise and gather how a room is. Even this can change dimension. I guess you've got to make the most of it. It's a trip to say the least.

My stuff is 24/7 of course, but my god if I have alcohol it really toys with this factor as you say eyes closed for sleep. I'll even have abstract things, for example 3 horizontal pipes will come flying at me and I'll duck instinctively.

 

[Flickering]

How many of you took dextromethorphan in cough medicine when you were very young? I have a theory that paediatric cough syrups are a big cause of micropsia in children. I had this about once a year until I was fourteen, and it was horrible.

Through my research, I've found LSD and marijuana are drugs you might not want to take if you've ever had a condition like this, and also that cocaine can cause AiWS as a permanent condition.

 

[Divine Moments]

Other times i'd feel like small, random, objects were enormous, like too big to hold. I just cant quite describe it.

I'll get this weird sensation when I close my eyes where I'll see objects whether they're actual objects or just shapes like a big cube or something lol and they'll get realllllllllly big, then reallllllly small. It's a very strange sensation; hard to explain. It's not pleasant really either. Kind of scary.

Exactly what I used to feel.

The ceiling...or cube/box is just too large to handle.

Wow... I've never heard of other people who had such similar experiences, though I guess I've never really discussed it. Maybe it's quite common? Or common among those of us who are a little mentally unstable

The main one I remember was being in an endlessly vast space, moving really slowly despite trying to run, and there being this impossibly large sphere that I could only just touch with the tip of an index finger, which was also enormous. Like you guys say, it's almost impossible to explain because it doesn't conform with a mature, rational concept of space. Very interesting in retrospect, but terrifying at the time (only happened when I was quite young). I actually only uncovered this memory earlier this year..

 

[Wolfmans_BrothEr]

How many of you took dextromethorphan in cough medicine when you were very young? I have a theory that paediatric cough syrups are a big cause of micropsia in children.

When I was a kid I would've taken DXM very rarely. My parents are big into health and natural solutions so they wouldn't have given me DXM unless it was completely necessary.

Plus when I was experiencing that I hadn't started using drugs yet, and wasn't prescribed any sort of meds or anything

For those of you who don't have it permanently, why do you hate it so much. I would love having somethin trippin me out while I was waiting to fall asleep

 

[Flickering]

Heh, well personally for me it was a very BAD trip each time. Complete with a droning noise in the back of my head, feelings of despair and being trapped this way forever, horribly warped tactile sensations, and when I fell asleep with this all going on, eeuurghkh. At the time I had no idea what it was, and considered it the worst recurring nightmare I'd ever had.

Thanks for your feedback though, perhaps my hypothesis is completely off.

 

[deez_nuggs]

"When I was a child I had a fever, my hands felt just like two balloons. Now I've got that feeling once again, I can't explain, you would not understand, this is not how I am. I have become comfortably numb."

word. thought me and syd were the only two! haha