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Sleep paralysis and astral projection

xburtonchic

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I'm hoping somebody will read this who knows a lot about this stuff, because I'm pretty new to it. Basically I'm wondering what the most effective way is to achieve astral projection during sleep paralysis? I've been practicing for a long time, but I just can't seem to "get it".

A little background... I first started experiencing sleep paralysis around the same time my problems with opiate addiction started, about two years ago. Since then, I get it pretty frequently, and it usually happens 4 or 5 times in a row when I do (like I'll wake up paralyzed, ride it out until it ends, and then I'll immediately fall back into a state of SP... this will go on for a bit until I finally either get up or fall back asleep). At first it was absolutely terrifying, and I've def experienced some really frightening auditory and visual hallucinations and sensations, so naturally I began reading everything I could about it and doing all kinds of research to find out what was happening to me. Somewhere along the way, I learned that sleep paralysis is an ideal state to be in for achieving astral projection. That's something I always wanted to experience, so I started trying to put some of the techniques I'd read about into practice. I've been able to get to a point where I can keep a somewhat clear mind and remain somewhat calm when I wake up in SP, you know, instead of going straight into panic mode and losing myself completely while struggling to wake myself up. I'd be lying if I said that doesn't happen still sometimes. But for the most part, I'm able to realize what's going on and maintain enough awareness to focus on trying to separate, instead of focusing on all the scary things going on around me... most of which actually disappears once I accept what's going on, now that I think about it. I've tried willing myself out of my body, I've tried the whole rolling from side to side method, etc. But I've never been able to separate.

Last night this happened again, and I think I MIGHT have achieved some kind of separation, but I'm not too sure because it wasn't at all like what I've read about... and that's what this thread is about. I want to explain what I experienced last night and maybe get some feedback on whether or not I actually separated to some degree, and what steps I can take from this point to experience full on astral projection. Ok so here goes.

I woke up in SP as usual. There were a few mild hallucinations, but I was able to redirect my focus to attempting to astral project a lot more quickly this time than I have before. So I started focusing on the sensations I was feeling in my body, you know the vibrating/shaking feeling, and I tried to simply will myself to separate. I don't remember there being any defining noise or sensation to indicate that I had achieved this, but at some point everything else disappeared, the sensation of being paralyzed was gone, and I felt like I was spiraling/floating downward. At the same time, I began to hear a monologue in my head (it was my own voice), that was talking non-stop... I can't remember what the (my) voice was saying, but I want to say it was just naming random historical facts. It was nothing of real importance, I know that much. However, I can't be sure if this means I actually separated or not, because I couldn't see anything... and I'd always read that astral travel was very vivid. But everything was just pure black, like my eyes were closed. The only things that were different was the sensation that I was spiraling/flying/floating downward, and the voice I was hearing. And that I couldn't really feel my physical body anymore, if that makes sense. After a few seconds, the voice began to frighten me, I don't know why since it was my own voice and not saying anything at all threatening, but it was genuinely scaring the shit out of me... and I snapped awake. And that was it.

So... does this sound like astral projection? Or the beginning of it maybe? I've never gotten that far before, so I don't know. Do I just need to keep trying, and have more patience, and eventually I'll be able to do it? Or is it possible that I was, in fact, having a full on astral projection experience and I just didn't know it because I kept my eyes closed? The thing is, I didn't feel like I could control it. It was like I wouldn't have been able to open my eyes even if I wanted to... that's the feeling I get, although I can't be sure because I didn't think to try.

I seriously hope this all makes sense to someone and doesn't just sound like complete gibberish lol. I would love any tips or feedback or whatever. :)
 
Ive never actually astral projected either, but what you described is very interesting and matches a few discriptions ive read. What exactly is your mental process you use in order to try projecting yourself? Good luck with future attempts.
 
Sounds like you've made some great progress to me. Not getting caught up in the sleep paralysis state requires a strong mind.. it can be terrifying as you said. The problem I have is not getting excited about it haha! Once that happens and emotion comes in to play it just saps all the energy away from the experience and it ends. As with both our problems, remaining calm and just observing is the solution.. and likewise once further into the experience. You'll find there is almost a second part of you, behind all your desires and thoughts (not you), and that is from where you should aim to steer the experience. I have yet to fully develop that part.. which is a science in itself.

To me it sounds like you were at the beginning of astral projection with the blackness and the voice. I know I hear some really weird things when I don't project into the astral proper, it's like you're still stuck/identified with the body or close to it. The bit about not opening your eyes.. maybe you were not ready at that point to see what is really there. Sometimes I get the feeling (when I'm dreaming) that behind the standard dream scene I'm also in the astral, but that I'm not ready to see it at that moment. There's a lot of confusion about what the astral is on the internet.. most people seem to think its projecting and walking around your body, your room, that sort of thing.. that is not the astral realm (that's etheric, real-time projection, or a lucid dream). The astral realm is nothing like this world. I've only been in the astral a handful of times and it is both beautiful and confusing, brightly coloured and psychedelic.. it kind of comes to you in a visual language that the brain can't decode well or something like that.. tunnels, geometric constructions and shapes, and the 'feeling'.. you get impressions directly in to your mind, like you understand something wholly and completely in an instant. Very strange.

Trying to control the experience using the 'everyday you' tends not to work, because that part is not refined and full of crap basically. There's an automatic safety mechanism that prevents the average person from seeing what is really there.. because it would just blow their mind to receive those kinds of experiences and impressions.. they would go mad basically. So as I said you've obviously made good progress.. the more you refine yourself in the waking state the easier it becomes to project.. the more you strip away all the false and bullshit from yourself the more you begin to crystallize the part of yourself that is necessary to take on those astral experiences.

I believe we're there every night, and it's part of why we sleep. We're receiving impressions and communicating with each other as a collective. We just don't see it or remember it because we don't have the capacity to. It's something you have to work on. So yeh, my advice is try to develop yourself in the waking state, and ask why you want to project.. is there a selfish desire there? I know lust and a desire for knowledge are my chief things I have to work on. I got to a point, was shown this thing is there, and haven't been back since... still working on refining myself :)
 
^ I have the same problem as you re: excitement. I'm not scared of SP or AP, it's just that once I realized what's happening I get so excited to go forward that I arouse my body into waking up with a whoosh!
 
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