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Ok, we've all been in that agonising situation where you've overdone it a little, come home and need to sleep. Maybe people are being noisy or you're just still a bit too alert from all the drugs, and you just lie there doing your head in.. aargh
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Ok -in the L-tyrosine thread, someone mentioned this:
As for other things to take after, if dopamine is a problem then surely GHB is very good. And it makes for a most pleasurable and fun comedown too. Plus the ability to induce safe sleep if u really cannot deal with staying up anymore.
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I've never had GHB but often find myself in the position of wanting to sleep after a night out. Does anyone have any practical experience in using GHB for this purpose?? How safe is it?? Does it make any difference what else you've had, eg speed, weed (and excluding alcohol, of course). I've also been told that having sleeping pills to induce sleep if you're still up & awake from amphetamine use is very dangerous - why is this??
 
if u're wanting something to help your body rest and recover... why not 5htp or melatonin?
altho G is good for comedowns, i dont think its good if all u want is to be able to sleep
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not tooo sure about using GBL to get to sleep. I have used it, but not for sleep. Tho,i have been know to knoock a few people out with a generous dose of 1,4b (accidently of course)
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actually, i dd it twice in the one day, to the same unsuspecting person (you would think they would catch on.
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One thing to be wary of tho, the GBL tends to bring what ever you had the night before back on (not exactly the same, but similar), whcih can be good if you are after this, but not too good if you want to sleep.
Maxi
 
I have the exact same problem. When I get home from a rave, my body is screaming at me it needs sleep, but my mind just wont let me.
Even if i just have a pill I cant get to sleep until the next night. Its so annoying, I'm lying in bed trying to get to sleep but it just wont happen.
I'm also tempted to try some GHB, but I think I'd rather try sleeping pills first. I found out my grandfather takes Tamazapan so I might have to score a few off him.
 
I said that about GHB, but i confess its not from personal exp. I have had it after pills before, yummy, but not large doses.
I suggested it from what others have said and reading about GHB itself. Its meant to decrease dopamine release among other things. And users seem to imply it will "defeat" speed, a bit like SSRIs "defeat" MDMA.
So as far as i can see, technically it should dull any amphetamine effects still driving u nuts and hopefully get u relaxed enough to sleep.
I would be a bit cautious however with taking a dose large enough to induce sleep. Simply coz u have already done a lot to your body and who knows if a dose to induce sleep normally will be the same as that required following a big night.
All sedatives and sleeping drugs are meant to be quite harmful; and unnatural.
GHB is, at least by its advocates, said to be a natural substance and less harmful than alcohol.
So thats another thing to keep in mind; u have just had a night on a number of harmful drugs; temazepam is just another one of these; as people say GHB isnt a drug; so the roller coaster ride of up and down drugs is not gotten onto.
But the days of having powder, pure GHB r over, and GBL depending on ur source may just not be advisable.
1,4BD absolutely not considering what u have already done to ur liver.
 
If your a newbie with GHB all I can say is be careful. It is very easy to Overdose on, as it has a similar response curve to that of Alcohol, however you need a hell of a lot less to achieve Overdose on GHB. I advise you look up Erowid, or a siliar site to get a rough idea on recommended safe dosages. 15 Mill, is a general 'rule of thumb' to take initially but then everyone is different of course. As a sleep aid I personally find GHB is damn good. I find it takes the edge of everything if your mind is still racing at a million miles an hour, once you get home. You will probably only get 2-3 hours max, but it will be a solid, deep 2-3 hours, makes a hell of a difference to me anyway
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If all else fails I suppose you can still reach for the bong as an age-old remedy
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Be interested in hearing other peoples experiences........
 
GHB is good for comedowns and inducing sleep but you have to know your own dosage well. I would say that GHB is good fun to have after a night out and with some friends over, to talk or to relax with. To induce sleep, well, there are many other methods, like what Ghost has mentioned - 5HTP and melatonin.
I have friends that do their own stuff, like watchng television or even doing their assignments ( for those still in school). There are also instances that I, myself, just chatted with friends till I felt tired and i just doze off. Having your bf or gf ard is good as well .... kekeke!
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Whatever methods you use to induce sleep, just make sure it is safe and you know what u are doing. And of course, the old fashion way - BONGZ! Just my personal suggestions!
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i find listening to cat stevens, meditating and sex are the best way to fall asleep
usually coupled with a luke warm shower/bath and cups of herbal tea or earl grey tea,
i find reading a great way to comedown to a sleepy state but like me you have to reread what you read while coming down!!!!!
peace.........................
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"ill never try an E" quote from me june1999(and i didn't untill about 40 pills later)
 
Try Kava-Kava.
Chew a slim root or make some Kava tea.
Seems to relax you both physically and mentally and helps you drift off into a nice relaxing natural sleep.
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I'm of the opinion that 1,4BD is not damaging to the liver if it's pharmaceutical grade. Studies have been done, using high grade 1,4bd that concluded that it had toxic effects matching those of ghb (ie none). I'd find the ref but we still can't search. Low grade 1,4bd is however particularly harmful to your liver from what i understand as the impurities commonly found in 1,4bd are particularly harmful. But hey, it tastes better when it's a cd cleaner
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There are sites on the net that sell pharmaceutical grade 1,4bd.
I have 1,4bd whenever I can't sleep after a big night out, just a small 8ml dose can assist me in having some quality sleep, or at least be pretty relaxing. I find that for about 90 mins after having 1,4bd during a comedown i am no longer coming down. Still scattered as fuck, but not feeling dirty
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Hey All,
Some information you might find interesting... DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TAKE 1,4B GHB, OR GBL after having taking a pill...
The reason: It will cause brain damage.. unfortunatly I can't provide the detail to back this up, just something I was informed of by a doctor friend of mine.
I would suggest 5-HTP is your best option, not only will it help you sleep, it will help your body to replenish it's serotonin levels, there by reducing your comedown to almost non-existant, and next time you go out pill'n you won't need more to get u where u want to be.. : )
PLUR, Peace out
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Umm, bass, please provide that link or evidence of your above claim.
There however, is much evidence that GHB can increase the neurotoxicity potential after a pill, given that the uptake of dopamine into the serotonin receptors can potentiate the degredation of said receptors.
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Ok, now its all confusing.
Pinger u r definitely the guru of G, so help please.
Doesnt GHB REDUCE dopamine release and hence this can only be GOOD for neurotoxicity.
(Thanks for clearing that up Acid-Reign, and how come the only CD cleaner i have picked up contains isopropanol)
 
When I have tried to induce sleep via a standard 15ml dose of GHB I found that although I did fall asleep (I had eaten a dirty pill - not sure what was in it **so sue me!!** but was keeping me too alert, and I was at home just wanting 2 sleep for work the next day)...
The 15ml did knock me out for sleep, however in less than 2 hours I was fully awake again.
So again, drank another 15ml and went back to sleep, had very shit awake/half-asleep cycle.
In my experience GHB is very limited in effectiveness if you want a good nights sleep.
Alcohol is more effective, as it induces drowsiness over extended period (not just when its affecting your system).
I cant offer any solutions except valium, Valerian or any other drug/herb 2 relax your body.
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Woah, the last thing my body feels like after a hard nights abuse is more hardcore chemicals! Stick to Bongs, they're the SAFE DRUG! They never fuck you up and if you think you're
beyond them just buy a bigger cone!
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I don't really think drinking alcohol will get you to sleep in a hurry. Unless you do hardcore shots of Chatreuse or some other high-level spirit, the alcohol will just bounce straight off.
I find that I can drink unsusally high amounts of beer & bourbon after a night on the pills, and didn't fall asleep until about 3 or 4 hours later. A night on speed will see me drink rediculous amounts until it wears off, and at which point, I'm out like a light!!!
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bez: Safe drug? ... there is no such thing...
As for marijuana never fucking you up, why have I spent a few nights either spewing or wishing I had never smoked that cone/joint???
Different drugs work differently for different people, so just because it's fine for you, doesn't mean its fine for everyone... and please don't go telling people that any drugs are safe... I've had a lot, and I wouldn't call any safe... You can use most with care and not run into any problems, but that doesn't mean they're safe, it just means you're being careful...
 
i wont use alcohol to sleep either... alcohol poisoning is a common occurence when consumed with pills.
this is bcos u *think* u can drink alot more when u're rolling, but in fact, u're just less able to feel drunk.
to be able to fall asleep on alcohol, u'd have to drink ALOT to feel the effects. and who knows if that amount would already be enough to cause alcohol poisoning?
 
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