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awesome episode yet again. i was suprised to see them dip back into the brenda / billy plotline... i guess wanting to fuck your sibling is an urge that dies hard:\ disturbing, but a perfect example of why this show is so phenominal.

dont like the fact that george is just part of the family again. i dont like the fact that ruth just gets to take him back after she blatantly turned her back on him and subsequently massively cock-blocked him. i loved the scene where maggie told him off, kinda reminds the viewers that george wasnt just some poor helpless invalid, he was a fuckin bastard for the better part of his and his children's lives.

im still wondering how they're gonna handle the custody think w/ maya. brenda i think is almost certainly gonna lose her baby but this show has an incredible nack for shirking the obvious plotline. so who knows, maybe brenda will have her baby but it'll turn out that it wasnt nate's it was really george's or something;)

i think they're gonna calm down the david and keith relationship for the last episode. looks like there's gonna be a big confrontation but imo keith will snap out of it and see how little he's actually nurtured david since nate died.

i think its very possible that rico and david could end up selling the business or just simply closing. maybe rico takes over the home completely.

cant wait for the last episode *tear*

*hums theme song*
 
Gonna miss this show...

cravNbeets said:
gb what'd you think about maggie being present @ the funeral... seemed outta place to me.
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Sorry didn't give my thoughts earlier...I missed Sunday's episode 'til last night's replay and I didn't wanna come in and spoil it. :)

I agree, I thought it was in poor taste that Maggie showed up at the gravesite...I think it would have been more appropriate for her to simply pay her respects at the memorial service. But as we saw from this last episode in her confrontation with George, Maggie is starting to break out of whatever shell she was in and that may have been the first sign of her new "I don't give a fuck what the rest of the world thinks" attitude.

As far as Rico is concerned, I think he may take the plunge and buy the other funeral home, with his wife as his assistant...I think David's loopiness and Claire's flipping out may have been the last straw for him. 0toh, he and David could bring Vanessa in to serve as a coordinator/grief counselor. She seemed to have an affinity for it.

Brenda's incest dream was one of those creepy "watch through your fingers over your eyes" kinda things...I was like ohh no, ohh no, yet I was glued to the set. I even had to take a pee break in the middle of it and I rushed it. ;)

The afterlife interactions with Nate have been great so far. :)

Here's a teaser from the SFU website on the finale..."David finally embraces a demon". Wanna take guesses on what that is?

As between all of the seasons, which is your favorite? For me, it's a tossup between the first season and this one. The first season came out gangbusters, and this season has blown it outta the water as well.
 
^^I second that WOW. Best dramatic TV series EVER. In fact, I have to give it another WOW.

I absolutely loved the closing 15 minutes. Very moving.

A few little tidbits I thought were interesting:

Did anyone notice that the TV show that Ruth was watching both times in her deep depressive bout was "Just Shoot Me", and when Claire asked her why she was watching it she replied "It's always on"? I thought that was a cleverly inserted mini-view into Ruth's psyche by the writers.

Brenda's afterlife dream sequence with Nate AND Nathaniel...she had never met him when he was living. That's the only afterlife sequence that I can recall even suggesting that the interactions were not solely a product of the character's mind. I think the very next scene showed Brenda waking up from a dream, but I can't recall for sure so I'll have to watch it again to see if the writers slipped in a fast one.

Nate's "rockstar" sequence...I took from that sequence that Nate's dream in life had been to be a musician, particularly in conjunction with the family's reminiscing at dinner over Nate's 80's hairband days. I don't recall Nate ever clearly articulating what his dreams had been when he was alive.


You know, before the finale I was really disappointed to see SFU go, but after last night I agree completely with Alan Ball's decision. They did an incredible job with this final season and a fantastic job with the finale...they really drove it home, emphasizing the theme of the show very beautifully and movingly.

Nothing lasts forever. :)
 
the ending was pretty harsh, but even though they were only shown for a second or two, tons was revealed about their lives.. like Keith ran his own security business and claire ended up taking tons and tons of pictures. we know that david and keith stayed together too and that it's possible their sons may take over the business

also the final episode started with a birth as opposed to a death.. kinda interesting. it was also only like the 2nd episode that didnt start with someone dying
 
fruitfly said:
^ Another thing you and I talked about earlier: did anyone notice that Maggie seemed to be at a doctor's office when Ruth called her? Hmm ... Nate's lovechild, perhaps? Maybe he's got children scattered all across the land!
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Yes!

Maggie had to be visiting the doctor for something child-birthing related.
 
This show/episode REALLY got to me. Seriously, I'd love to just be able to thank Alan Ball for giving this whole project to us.

That final sequence is one of the greatest pieces of film-making I've ever seen
 
I don't know if maggie was visiting for something child-birth related as she is a pharmaceutical rep. It doesnt matter now anyway since we will never find out.

A brilliant last episode, I will be sure to watch it again. While the end was depressing, it really did tie up the show nicely and as you know Alan Ball is not going to end anything that resembles happiness. Instead of seeing the message as depressing and watching all my favourite characters age and die, I took a different message, which was pretty clear throughout the episode. Through claire and nate's scenes, it seems Alan was really stressing that life is too short and to live it to the fullest, take chances and as nate says in so many words 'Don't worry about whether youre doign the right or wrong thing in every aspect of life, look where it got me'.

One thing i did notice was that Nate's passing was probably the best thing that has ever happened to the fisher family. This reflects that death is not always a negative thing and that it is a reality of life. While nate was my favourite character throughout the show, his existance really was bringing down everyone else in the family. I guess sometimes a tragedy has to occur before people take actio.

IMO it was tied up nicely and the end scene was very artistic and well done. I just hope Alan does another series, however i don't think anything can substitute for sfu.
 
watched the final episode last night - cried like a baby :)

what a great finale. showing us how everybody died, i'm not si sure about - of the entire series, it was the only thing that came across a little cheesy. i would have been happy having the characters' fates left to my imagination. but that's a tiny criticism.

the moment when ruth asks maggie (who, i agree, is prgenant with nate's kid) whether she and nate were happy when he collapsed was really touching.

it's done and i'm glad they had the sense to kill it while it was great rather than drag it out.

alasdair
 
i have to watch this again before i give a full review but i felt very unsatisfied... i think more could've been put into the actual episode as opposed to the 20 minute musical montage (sp?) i absolutely hated the scene with ruth, sarah, and betina which is odd bc i love all those characters. seemed like it was a scene that had been done repeatedly (ruth letting her hair down, quite literally, with the girls)

iunno it seems lame to nitpick at the finale of a show that i love so much but i wasnt satisfied... the last 20 minutes was suberb tho very touching.... god i love the way david dies, that was a tear jerker for me.... good things i guess

*hums themesong*
 
^ I don't think that was keith... I think it was the actor that plays Keith but I believe it was Darel(sp?)you know their oldest son...
 
Dark Ambience said:
I don't know if maggie was visiting for something child-birth related as she is a pharmaceutical rep.
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She quit that job to stay with her father. remember? Plus she certainly wasn't dressed like she was representing pharmaceuticals...
 
Watched it again last night. Again moved to tears by the last 15 minutes.

No Sideways, it was definitely meant to represent Keith. It was probably a random family member or friend who was actually playing the game, but when he turned David caught a memory of Keith and died. By the time David died in 2045, Durrell would have been something like about 55 years old, definitely too old to be running around playing pickup football. I would imagine the older gentleman sitting beside David in that scene was his love interest at the time...just a pale (literally ;)) substitute for Keith, the love of his life.

I think Durrell ended up working in the family business when he grew up. David was teaching him embalming in that one scene, and later when Ruth (or Keith, I can't remember) died they showed a late 30-something black man assisting David with the burial.

Again, I was a bit thrown by the scene with Brenda seeing Nate and Nathaniel together holding her newborn. She was AWAKE. And she had never met Nathaniel in real life. I could see her having the visual image from pictures, but the voice? Only suggestion of actual supernatural occurrence, rather than just character's thoughts, that I ever recall them slipping in there.

Interesting how they outfitted Nate in all white for his rockstar scene. Nathaniel was always clothed in all black, as was the mobster "death" guy way back in the 1st season. Can't recall how the fat "life" jazz mama was clothed in those same scenes, but I don't recall it being all white. Would explain how Nate was the embodiment of Nathaniel's repressed "yang" during his life, and how the pull of Nathaniel's darkside "yin" was so strong during Nate's life that he fled it, the yang (light) only fully materializing upon Nate's death.

I thought it was funny how Billy was still talking psychobabble (something about he needed "emotional closure"...perhaps a reference to his unresolved unrequited love for Claire?) to Brenda even when she died in 2049. To me the look on her face was like "Oh for the love of God, enough of this!" as she died. They didn't do a good enough job of aging Billy in that scene though, imo.

Didn't catch the Maggie-Nate lovechild inference on first viewing, but after seeing it again it was definitely ambiguous enough to go either way.

I agree with DA, Nate's death was definitely a necessary catalyst for all of the Fishers. Ruth finally let go of the regrets in her life and found some semblance of happiness (while Nate was alive she probably couldn't let go of them because she saw so much of those regrets in Nathaniel's namesake son), David confronted his demon (himself) and Claire was emboldened to go for it. I wouldn't go so far as to say Nate was bringing them all down when he was alive though, except maybe in a sense that he was like their spiritual rock (kind of like expecting the firstborn to be the family standardbearer I guess) to which they clung in a codependent fashion rather than developing their own strengths, and when he died they were forced to move on. David alluded in the family dinner to how badly he wanted Nate to be cool, and in truth he probably NEEDED Nate to be cool. But in the same sense you could also argue that the weight of those same family expectations weighed Nate down heavily too, as evidenced by his fleeing in early adulthood.

I thought Nate's last words to Claire as she took the pic of the family before leaving were haunting..."you can't take a picture of it (the moment), it's already gone".

At Ruth's graveside service, was that a young Maya sitting beside Claire? I think so. She turned out to be a looker alright.

Claire lived to be 102 years old! Good God! I was hoping they would do a final vignette of her family in her cataracted eyes as well, but they didn't.

Anyone know the name of the song in the final sequence? I haven't tried to look it up yet. Great tune though...Ted wasn't so unhip after all.

Man, do I go a good Billy psychobabble impression or what? ;)
 
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thats funny i ended up watching just the last 5 mins or so last night as well, mostly to analyze the events

glowbug pretty much covered everything that i noticed on the second viewing.. except if you watch closely you can see Rico looking at his left arm in a funny way right before he keels over, indicative of a heart attack
 
didnt anyone else think that the scene where david confronted his kidnapper was incredibly fucking lame? cartoonish/slasher-movie lame. that was my favorite episode ever and it was reduced to an action sequence and some totally wack special fx.....
 
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