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"Sin: The Path to Excellence"

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"Sin: The Path to Excellence"

Sin has long been associated with moral failure, but what if we reframe it? I see sin as something essential to human growth—a necessary part of striving for excellence.

At its core, sin simply means “missing the mark.” It’s not about wickedness but about falling short of an ideal. Christianity and even Gnostic traditions acknowledge this idea in different ways. The concept of felix culpa—the “happy fault”—suggests that sin is necessary for God’s plan. Whether or not one believes in the supernatural, the wisdom of this idea is clear: missing the mark is a natural part of aiming for something greater.

To evolve, both as individuals and as a species, we must take risks and inevitably fall short. This process—of setting goals, failing, and trying again—is what drives progress. Every moment of “sin” is evidence that we’re pushing ourselves beyond our comfort zones and striving toward our best possible selves. This is what we do, consciously or unconsciously, at every point in our lives.

Oneness

Even competition, often seen as divisive, is tied to this idea. Competition highlights our shortcomings, creating a contrast between where we are and where we want to be. It creates leaders, innovators, and excellence by encouraging us to improve. Of course, competition produces losers, and those losses can feel like failures or even evoke the idea of "evil." But in truth, every loss is an opportunity—a moment to learn, adapt, and grow stronger.

This is why I celebrate sin—not as a call to moral failure but as an embrace of imperfection and growth. Without sin, without missing the mark, we would have no benchmarks for greatness. There would be no leaders to inspire us, no innovators to challenge us, and no progress to drive humanity forward.

I don’t believe in the supernatural, but I see wisdom in the way ancient scribes wove this idea into their teachings. Sin, in its truest sense, is not something to avoid but something to engage with thoughtfully. It is the evidence of our striving, our courage to try, and our commitment to evolve.

So, I invite you: aim high. Take your shot. Miss the mark. Become a sinner in the best way possible. In doing so, you’ll not only create a better version of yourself but also contribute to the collective excellence of humanity.
 
You make a lot of good points GB. However I think the word "sin" needs to be changed to "contrast" in that discourse you gave. I do not even believe in the word sin. If a person gets far enough out there there really is no sin or anything to ever be forgiven about. It is all for the learning. However that does not excuse a person's choices at all. So it is ying and yang.

At it's basic level sin would be harming oneself or someone else? The word sin is very subjective.
Even competition, often seen as divisive, is tied to this idea. Competition highlights our shortcomings, creating a contrast between where we are and where we want to be. It creates leaders, innovators, and excellence by encouraging us to improve. Of course, competition produces losers, and those losses can feel like failures or even evoke the idea of "evil." But in truth, every loss is an opportunity—a moment to learn, adapt, and grow stronger.
So let me ask this. The CEO of a company fires everyone that helped the company grow for the last 15 years simply to make the power point slides look better revenue wise. But then the company tanks after some time. Did that person simply challenge himself or did he actually pull some moves that hurt people? Yes business is business, but we are also human beings. Now saying that at face value it looks like the CEO is a bastard. His choices would imply heartlessness. But the part I say no one is ever done wrong would be the people that get fired (for doing a good job) finding an even better job do to the firing. So it all works out in the end.

However any choices that hurt another for a person's own benefit is a sin in my mind. Choices are choices. We reap what we sow. If you plant ice you're gonna harvest wind....
 
Me neither, a global accepted definition is neaded atleast. Sin, when your are a Islamist extremist, alll other opinions are sin.
Though they bred homo s, while they more then others consider love between one sex as sin.
They are quite active in that field secretely.

Having sex with underaged off the oppopsite sex, is tolerated. Aswell taking virginity of someone not of their religion.
As they are mere Pig prostitute s. To go to the the extreme. My best friends were fed Islam, and most of it , the Islam,
Not really friendly. The kindeness was as I later cnclude superficial, bit like Christians but more extreme.

Could have used a US example [KKK], but the extremist are a sin imo.
Or Dutch. But the point is clear. Sin is a assumption thats location dependend.
 
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However any choices that hurt another for a person's own benefit is a sin in my mind.
So if you are a good chess player, and challenge another and win for your benefit, you see that as harmful to the loser, while I see as a goal set and a loser who now knows he is not the fittest for the task.

I see that as win win.
 
Me neither, a global accepted definition is neaded atleast.
That is why I showed the bibles definition that I was using.

I agree that both right wing Islam is a different religion and Christianity is too.

Neither religions allow the full love of LGBTQ+ and are thus morally different.
 
So if you are a good chess player, and challenge another and win for your benefit, you see that as harmful to the loser, while I see as a goal set and a loser who now knows he is not the fittest for the task.

I see that as win win.
Like the opposite of certain not unspoiled parts of Africa.
Where they practice UBUNTU.

A example was a running match of young teens.
The one who finished first immediatly started crying. .
Reporters heading to him. .

"Are you so happy you have won, it makes you cry of joy ?''
He looked kinda confused, as if he was for the first time confronted with a unknown,
the 'civilized' so called reality. Beatiful moment. Kid outwit civality in 5 words.

"No because all my driends lost !'
 
Like the opposite of certain not unspoiled parts of Africa.
Where they practice UBUNTU.

A example was a running match of young teens.
The one who finished first immediatly started crying. .
Reporters heading to him. .

"Are you so happy you have won, it makes you cry of joy ?''
He looked kinda confused, as if he was for the first time confronted with a unknown,
the 'civilized' so called reality. Beatiful moment. Kid outwit civality in 5 words.

"No because all my driends lost !'
Other thing that a bit Western, challege/ competion win/ lose.

Imagine you go running, alone, set a new world record. Noone knows.
Can t see how that would negatively effect my prestation.Winning is not a goal of mine.

Though when some breaks my basic human rights, then winning might apply.
Don t feel like winning though, when you got them the balls/ on their knees.
Say tough guy you won. But its not how it feels or i d prefer to solve it. Hate it, bureaucrats.

And its just about dis-respecting my rights, don t do that no worry s and no problems.
Otherwise lyrical warfare. Do give em 1001 chances, non offensive the oppertunity
for a peaceful way out. but humans are stubborn/ dumb ?
So i fight for my right. To overcome our little trouble.


Winning, is that a benefit. And loosing does that mean your not the fittest.

Maybe he/ she had a bad day ?

[soryy for any typos my glasses are vanished, as usual]]
 
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"Sin: The Path to Excellence"

Sin has long been associated with moral failure, but what if we reframe it? I see sin as something essential to human growth—a necessary part of striving for excellence.

At its core, sin simply means “missing the mark.” It’s not about wickedness but about falling short of an ideal. Christianity and even Gnostic traditions acknowledge this idea in different ways. The concept of felix culpa—the “happy fault”—suggests that sin is necessary for God’s plan. Whether or not one believes in the supernatural, the wisdom of this idea is clear: missing the mark is a natural part of aiming for something greater.

To evolve, both as individuals and as a species, we must take risks and inevitably fall short. This process—of setting goals, failing, and trying again—is what drives progress. Every moment of “sin” is evidence that we’re pushing ourselves beyond our comfort zones and striving toward our best possible selves. This is what we do, consciously or unconsciously, at every point in our lives.

Oneness

Even competition, often seen as divisive, is tied to this idea. Competition highlights our shortcomings, creating a contrast between where we are and where we want to be. It creates leaders, innovators, and excellence by encouraging us to improve. Of course, competition produces losers, and those losses can feel like failures or even evoke the idea of "evil." But in truth, every loss is an opportunity—a moment to learn, adapt, and grow stronger.

This is why I celebrate sin—not as a call to moral failure but as an embrace of imperfection and growth. Without sin, without missing the mark, we would have no benchmarks for greatness. There would be no leaders to inspire us, no innovators to challenge us, and no progress to drive humanity forward.

I don’t believe in the supernatural, but I see wisdom in the way ancient scribes wove this idea into their teachings. Sin, in its truest sense, is not something to avoid but something to engage with thoughtfully. It is the evidence of our striving, our courage to try, and our commitment to evolve.

So, I invite you: aim high. Take your shot. Miss the mark. Become a sinner in the best way possible. In doing so, you’ll not only create a better version of yourself but also contribute to the collective excellence of humanity.
Slight change of words and i could cope in.
Egoisme, word with a negative load.
Why ? Is it bad. Sometimes .

Because you put your own needs for those of other s,
not gonna name the one person that immediately dismantled this stupid saying.

But a simple example:
'i feel good helping people if they ask me/ want it,
its my most wanted need'.

So there are obvious graduations in egoism depending the intention,
for winning maybe the same goes. But winning together 🔼 over Han Solo imo.
 
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So if you are a good chess player, and challenge another and win for your benefit, you see that as harmful to the loser, while I see as a goal set and a loser who now knows he is not the fittest for the task.

I see that as win win.
I see it the same way as you. Win/win. You are making good points. I just don't see where the word sin fits in there? I don't see losing a chess game harmful to the loser. I see it as an opportunity for the loser to do what the winner did and practice to win. Win/win. Sports are not sins. An example of harming someone is stealing their retirement money. Stuff like that. (but even if you get far enough out the person whose money was stolen learns a million lessons, etc....)

I am going to start a thread on sin and we can all kick it around. Or we can use this thread since you opened the door GB. I am not sure how many religions use the word sin, but in Christianity it has definite meanings. I may not have them fully defined. Some are clear cut.
 
I see it the same way as you. Win/win. You are making good points. I just don't see where the word sin fits in there? I don't see losing a chess game harmful to the loser. I see it as an opportunity for the loser to do what the winner did and practice to win. Win/win. Sports are not sins. An example of harming someone is stealing their retirement money. Stuff like that. (but even if you get far enough out the person whose money was stolen learns a million lessons, etc....)

I am going to start a thread on sin and we can all kick it around. Or we can use this thread since you opened the door GB. I am not sure how many religions use the word sin, but in Christianity it has definite meanings. I may not have them fully defined. Some are clear cut.
With Chess, ime loosing a game that was mastereous.
Never felt as loosing, but admiration for the pure beauty.

This was more often spoiled by the win lose attitude.
The other felt and exposed. Maybe me too ?
Wonder why human behaviour often leeds to these choice s.
The need to expres being better. Instead of enjoying your bizar play.

Which kinda ruined anything that could be gained from those games.
Besides human behaviour. Calling it sin, well then your far in.
 
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With Chess, ime loosing a game that was mastereous.
Never felt as loosing, but admiration for the pure beauty.
Totally, admiration for the win. And a motivation for the loser to admire and work his craft. All sports are admirable in their stats.

This was more often spoiled by the win lose attitude.
The other felt and exposed.
Wonder why human behaviour often leeds to these choice s.
The need to expres being better. Instead of enjoying your bizar play.

Which kinda ruined anything that could be gained from those games.
Besides human behaviour. Calling it sin, well then your far in.
Yeah interpretation of individual behaviors come into play, Perceived hurts. Is a perceived thought a sin if it is only in one person's mind? It is just human behavior.

But sin, SIN!! what is it??? I forgive everyone so no one sinned to me.
 
Totally, admiration for the win. And a motivation for the loser to admire and work his craft. All sports are admirable in their stats.


Yeah interpretation of individual behaviors come into play, Perceived hurts. Is a perceived thought a sin if it is only in one person's mind? It is just human behavior.

But sin, SIN!! what is it??? I forgive everyone so no one sinned to me.
My edit included i might also acted so. But hey we were young, competative.

Sin is overboard but now i would do/ act different 50+.
And no its no sin to win, and rub it in your opponent friendly.
 
Totally, admiration for the win. And a motivation for the loser to admire and work his craft. All sports are admirable in their stats.


Yeah interpretation of individual behaviors come into play, Perceived hurts. Is a perceived thought a sin if it is only in one person's mind? It is just human behavior.

But sin, SIN!! what is it??? I forgive everyone so no one sinned to me.
And just found out we are not even really 100 % human.
Only 43 % is, the rest has foreign DNA.

The other 57 %, most of the time friendly Micro-organisms.
Where they live everywhere, but especially in the gut,
which has been labelled as our 2-nd brain. Direct link between em.
And about as much neuronal connections too.

Wonder when i win, is it the 57 % of organismes response able.
And my functioning 2-nd brain. I am windy so know they are there.
And when i lose, ican i blame the 43 % that s me.
Nice starting idea for the morny.

Anyone into chess, been a while, but it stimulates the 1-st brain.
When it wakes, my 2-nd seems to be on 24/ 7. Sometimes it wakes the 1-st.

For a :poop:, so :butt2: calling out to 🧠. Smart-ass.
Waking someone up, is that a sin ?
,
 
You make a lot of good points GB. However I think the word "sin" needs to be changed to "contrast" in that discourse you gave. I do not even believe in the word sin. If a person gets far enough out there there really is no sin or anything to ever be forgiven about. It is all for the learning. However that does not excuse a person's choices at all. So it is ying and yang.

At it's basic level sin would be harming oneself or someone else? The word sin is very subjective.

So let me ask this. The CEO of a company fires everyone that helped the company grow for the last 15 years simply to make the power point slides look better revenue wise. But then the company tanks after some time. Did that person simply challenge himself or did he actually pull some moves that hurt people? Yes business is business, but we are also human beings. Now saying that at face value it looks like the CEO is a bastard. His choices would imply heartlessness. But the part I say no one is ever done wrong would be the people that get fired (for doing a good job) finding an even better job do to the firing. So it all works out in the end.

However any choices that hurt another for a person's own benefit is a sin in my mind. Choices are choices. We reap what we sow. If you plant ice you're gonna harvest wind....
More like the road to Hell. But we are all sinners. Especially me, and everyone else to varying degrees and it is not what you like to call it, it is what ALMIGHTY GOD calls it.

You have Opana313 too thank for the encouragement. Wow, negative feedback is great encouragement for a person like me. Besides this is the correct forum or thread.
 
More like the road to Hell. But we are all sinners. Especially me, and everyone else to varying degrees and it is not what you like to call it, it is what ALMIGHTY GOD calls it.
That is the pitfall. Now I am not saying you JNowhere on this thought (no vanity lol) but I know you know people throw the word sin around based off of beliefs and self righteousness. And the ideas GB posted about was absolutely 100% good info. But on a surface level do not see how the word sin fits in there. Yes the world challenges us to be better, but I just think sin is a different thing than being challenged. Sin to me is harming another. And sports are not that. But even a person that was harmed can grow from the harm. But the person that harmed still has sinned IMO.
 
One way to define sin without anchoring it to a specific belief system is: "To do something that is contrary, either by intuition or doctrine, to what one believes to be the correct way to act; or to fail to act under the same circumstances when one knows that one should have; "

When you examine "sin" this way "sin" is seldom the correct path.
 
He can do as he pleases he answers to no one. He is potter we are the Clay, and he doesn't care or answer anyone.
But you and everyone, else who reaches the age of accountability will, and hell is hot and eternity is forever.
 
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