As much as i think about it I can't think of why blowing air in and out of a balloon is any better than simply holding it in the lungs (after taking it down like weed) apart from by hyperventilation making you lightheaded or by moving it around your lungs (in which case would a hold while taking smaller breaths in at intervals be a good idea, for nos or salvia)? Sounds to me like not exhaling it and inhaling it again would allow it to spend more time in your lungs so it could be absorbed quicker, please tell me if this is right.
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Simply holding nitrous oxide in for 30 seconds like salvia
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atara
Bluelighter
Because you could goddamn suffocate to death doing that is why.
In one of God's Greatest Mistakes, your body has no way to know how much oxygen is in your lungs. It guesses, based on the amount of carbon dioxide in your blood, which is the only thing it can detect. So if you displace all of your O2 with N2O, your body will be none the wiser -- and you will not feel a need to breathe, which is why holding nitrous in is considered an extremely bad idea by everyone ever. So you give nitrous a few seconds, blow it back into the balloon, and breathe air for a little while.
Aaaaand... this is why nitrous should be freely available with 20% oxygen: but apparently letting people get high is a worse idea than letting them die, courtesy of the Food and Death Administration.
In one of God's Greatest Mistakes, your body has no way to know how much oxygen is in your lungs. It guesses, based on the amount of carbon dioxide in your blood, which is the only thing it can detect. So if you displace all of your O2 with N2O, your body will be none the wiser -- and you will not feel a need to breathe, which is why holding nitrous in is considered an extremely bad idea by everyone ever. So you give nitrous a few seconds, blow it back into the balloon, and breathe air for a little while.
Aaaaand... this is why nitrous should be freely available with 20% oxygen: but apparently letting people get high is a worse idea than letting them die, courtesy of the Food and Death Administration.
atara
Bluelighter
After a few rounds, the nitrous in the balloon has mixed a little with the air in your lungs, and there's oxygen (and CO2, and N2) in there. It's not the sort of thing you should breathe constantly, but you can take a few breaths. The important thing is not to pass out with nitrous in your lungs, because your breathing reflex won't work right and that's really, really bad.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/nitrous/nitrous_health.shtml
Just, y'know, make sure you're getting plenty of air. Air is, like, essential to being alive, and stuff.
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I'm pretty sure you don't exhale nitrous very rapidly. Inhaling your exhalations will yeild a high carbon dioxide to nitrous ratio, IME.
I've tested balloon rebreathing and just holding it in. Holding it in provides a cleaner high, while balloons give me a distinct suffocation feeling.
I've tested balloon rebreathing and just holding it in. Holding it in provides a cleaner high, while balloons give me a distinct suffocation feeling.
atara
Bluelighter
You're supposed to feel that. It's your body's natural signal to breathe -- which pure nitrous interrupts!
Busty St Clare
Ex-Bluelighter
The practice comes from the fact that NO2 is not metabolised by the body, it is expelled as the same molecule. I'm sure plenty of it is absorbed the first time but the lungs are not that efficient so small amounts are still exhaled into the balloon
lenses
Bluelighter
The BA from inhaling nitrous is under 1% I believe. If the C02 could somehow be filtered on the outbreath it would be a different story. A NO2 rebreather!
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Limpet_Chicken
Bluelighter
Would destroy your lungs in short order.
N2O is nitrogen dioxide, nitric, not nitrous oxide a brownish, acrid smelling toxic gas. Nitrous is N2O.
N2O is nitrogen dioxide, nitric, not nitrous oxide a brownish, acrid smelling toxic gas. Nitrous is N2O.
I hold it in for 10-15 seconds. It works way better than huffing it like it's paint. No passing out, I count using Mississippi seconds(1 Mississippi, 2 Mississippi...). All huffing N2O does is it puts moisture in the balloon. The moisture can freeze and break the balloon, or if shared spread an infection.
Rebreathing the hit seems to only be good for 2-3 times;the second hit more keeps you there, the third time isn't that strong.
And people, please don't huff NO2. It'll kill you.
Rebreathing the hit seems to only be good for 2-3 times;the second hit more keeps you there, the third time isn't that strong.
And people, please don't huff NO2. It'll kill you.
For closed systems in anesthesia alkali hydroxides in solid form are used. Nitrous is somewhat soluble in water and a weak acid so you'd lose some with H2O+NaOH. IMO it's not worth it unless you have a tank and oxygen, and know how to use them.