shrooms/pot - new(s)/experienced(p) - some good some bad

[jeenius]

I think my experiences are starting to demonstrate some of the basic principles of shrooming, so I thought I might contribute (and help repay all the information I've gained from other people's trip reports).

Started shrooming quite recently.. I've had a few low doses which give a really warm body buzz in my whole torsoe and sometimes head buzzes; also make me feel very open and empathetic and basically good about everything, occasionally having positive realizations about my life. Nothing bad has ever happened to me on a low dose mushroom buzz.

I'm going to briefly describe my last trip. I took approximately 40g (~5) fresh cubensis mushrooms looking to reach a more advanced stage of tripping than a low dose. I didn't reach the level I was expecting, but basically had a more intense buzz and a fun time, smoking pot, playing video games, etc. No visuals, but afterglow for a few days. I started to suspect that my mushrooms might be weak.

This time, I read the "low dose mushroom" thread in psychadelics and decided to try that again (4 days after last trip -- this is close to last time, but I thought it would be light). I ate 1 mushroom. Then I wrote a personal message to someone, about recent life events I had not yet discussed with anyone. By the time I finished the message, I was surprised to feel myself coming up to the point I had been at on the last trip. The emotions must have really brought it out.. I got a little more choked up than I expected and decided to take a shower, had some brief meditation.. I was becoming discouraged with my ability to do things; tried to light some incense but the lighter was almost out and I just gave up. Then I played some piano, a little classical piece called "Seranade" that I'm learning. This was very fun. Even though I didn't know the piece well, I played without concentrating as much as usual.. I loved the sound of it, and the experience of making that sound. It was more fun than playing sober and I don't even think I did any worse for the inebriation.

I decided since this was going so well, I decided to take more and see where it led (1 more, ~20g total). I came back to the computer and put on some music (I had been compiling all of my favorite music from different periods in my life, so this also helped set the trip quite a bit). I also smoked some pot at some point. Then I had a great getting-to-know-you conversation on AIM with the person I messaged earlier and talked about my life some more. I think this helped with my current trend of changing to accept myself and my life more and treat myself with the love I would give to another person.

Then my roomie came home with a new record player and we wanted to put on some records, but we couldn't find any of the ones we wanted (still hope they're somewhere). I was still having the convo when I noticed my roomie with his coat back on.

me: Where are you going?
him: I'm getting pizza.
me: Did you tell me that already?
him: Yeah.
me: Sorry, I don't remember it. I'm starting to have memory problems.
him: Well then after I leave, you won't remember where I've gone!

I had a great laugh over that. When he left, I got off the computer and laid down and basically had a second come up. I happened to be staring at this "Exotic Marijuana" poster which is covered in different kinds of amazing buds. Then they started wiggling around on the poster. I laughed. They did it some more. They would wiggle, and I would laugh, and they would stop, and I would stare at them waiting for it to happen again.. I felt like they were playing with me. That's the only visual I really remember, but there were others.. It made me feel really good. I wasn't seeing anything so great, but the hallucinations were definitely connected to my feelings. And I did end up wondering where my roomie had gone a couple times. :D

When he came back, I was feeling great. I was excited to be "really" tripping. Then I did something REALLY stupid. I ate a large amount of food. Half a pizza and some cereal. (What I had been doing for a few days was not eat all day until evening -- probably really f-ing up my digestion.) I knew from what I'd read that this was a bad thing to do, but I didn't think of it at the time and must have been far gone.

I talked to another friend of mine on AIM for a bit, which was fun, but then I started getting a massive stomach ache. I retreated from the computer. Roomie was doing stuff like putting on movies or music or playing GTA Vice City, but for me, all stimulation equalled stomach pain. I got him to stop. Tried to calm down with some more pot and clear my mind like when I practice meditation. It worked for a little but then I vomited anyway. Tried to lie down.. Any negative thought that I had caused a stabbing pain in my stomach -- at this point, all the food was gone, so this must have been all psychological. This caused me to really fight off the depressive thought patterns that I've been learning to fight off for some time.

I slept badly and woke up still feeling sick. It hasn't completely gone away yet, actually. So I think it's good to use shrooms right after you've done something to sort out your personal issues, because that puts you in a great mindset for tripping. But it is very bad to eat a lot of food after taking mushrooms, I would say. DON'T do it.

 

[BURNING_FIST]

but sometimes the food is the best part. eat healthier and then trip and while tripping eat some good food and u will be in heaven. Sounds like you had a good time up until the food though.

 

[Sprinklervibes]

Hey to increase your chance of tripping on shrooms try taking shitloads of marijuana smoke in, hold long when the mushrooms are coming up... I find that smoking before the mushrooms will lower your chance of tripping.. But that's just me, and based on only a few experiences(same dose though and I started tripping as soon as the weed high came on) Also look for more subtle visuals like in darker rooms with lights .. Or closed eye visuals

 

[heliospan]

The problem of nausea is usually a problem of anxiety, at least on known, adecquately-preserved shrooms. Most likely, you are transferring that unfamiliar, sometimes-existential anxiety associated with the come-up into the the physical symptom of a stomach ache. Honestly, the problem with anxiety, "bad thought patterns," and worrisome psychogenic nausea is the result of attempting to fight them off. Those thoughts that you are having are not thoughts over which you have control. They are subconscious thoughts of which you are temporarily made aware; the volume is turned up. What fixes the problem is not trying to rationalize them away with other thoughts--that's running away. Thinking thoughts only leads to more thoughts.

What stops anxiety--tripping or not tripping--is understanding that you are fundamentally not in control of your thoughts, and the only thing you are in control of is your attitude about them and the meanings you attach to them. Realize that you are safe, and knowing it, revel in those deep-seated insecurities that you stumble upon, because they are who you are, literally. Identify them, grab them, and then decide then and there to let them go (as you are sitting there perfectly safe, with the chance to explore your mind and nature).

 

[jeenius]

Those are all good points heliospan, but that is what I meant by fighting them off -- I meant *stopping* the attempt at control. It's a conscious effort to loosen your grip on the thoughts. I called it "fighting it off" but actually it's the opposite of fighting.

But the nausea wasn't initially caused by the come-up, it was caused by my very poor eating habits, I think, and took off from there.