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Shaun Ryder "I was always a thatcherite really"

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Ismene

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I was never convinced by this sack of shit and his "I took more drugs than anyone else and stayed up way past my bedtime" line. Looks like he's been a closet thatcherite since day 1. You often seem to get this - the rock stars who make a big deal out of saying they were "wild" and "I don't know how I survived" like Iggy Pop turn out to be the ones who are a plague on mankind doing insurance adverts and live till they're 90.

In a move that will astonish both critics and supporters, David Cameron has appointed the controversial Happy Mondays star Shaun Ryder as a special adviser on social class, following a series of political missteps since the budget.

Ryder said that he was taken aback when he received the phone call from No 10. "I never thought I'd see the day when the prime minister was ringing me for advice," he said. "But let's face it, after the past week or so, with pastygate and everything, they obviously need help.

"People assume I'm a lefty because I'm working class and from Salford, but I'm not really. The Mondays were all children of Thatcher's generation. The hefty wedge they offered helped as well. It's funny because it seems like everyone else is paying for an invite to No 10 these days, and I'm the only one who is getting paid to go there, which is nice."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/apr/01/cameron-shaun-ryder-advise-tories
 
I don't think Ryder has any real political standpoint, I really don't believe he could be arsed with it, he'll just do what he has always done, taken whatever cash he can get his hands on, From what I've seen of late he's not as loaded as people think, in fact far from it.

Always seems like quite a nice bloke really, and you can't really have a go at people like Iggy Pop juts because they aren't dead, the insurance ads are a bit of an embarrassment, but for him not anyone else so I assume he thought fuck it and took the cash, its not like he is hurting anyone by doing an advert.

I think Its easy to forget that everyone has to make a living and money is relative so if you have 4 houses and a garage full of Ferrari's your overheads are quite hi compared to an average Joe. Juts like Lydon doing the butter ads, good luck to them of some mug wants to pay them shit loads for a couple of days work max, I'd jump at the chance myself, but sadly the phone doesn't ring ;)

Drink it in Ismene I intend to inflict myself on society for as long as possible =D
 
wellll, not everyone can be Morrissey can they? ;p

Noel Gallagher did this a few months ago too. I think it's an egocentric reflective-reflex which instantly summons up a free pair of rose tinted specs that allows egomaniacs to reflect on their past 'success'. but unfortunately now they have to 'think' about things and really fucking work for even a fraction of the attention they once had. glory days, yo

that, and all the negative cultural changes in the attitudes of the yoooof get blamed on the Labour Party's tenure by default. Noel is just ranting and raving with not even a minor hint he's ever even attempted to talk to any of the 'feckless youth' he's bemoaning. fucking worthless opinion on the subject of current attitudes and he's a self important prick, who can afford to be with a bank account to match his ego


'It was all better under Thatcher': Noel Gallagher on Britain's glory days, turning his back on drugs and the end of Oasis

He's cleaned up and straightened out, but remarkably, given his own wild past, he despairs of today’s feckless youth...

We were brought up under Thatcher,’ Noel Gallagher is saying.

‘There was a work ethic – if you were unemployed, the obsession was to find work.

'Now, these kids brought up under the Labour Party and whatever this Coalition thing is, it’s like, “Forget that, I’m not interested. I wanna be on TV.” It was a different mindset back then.’

We’re halfway through a wide-ranging conversation in a north London studio, and the man whose brawling band’s conspicuous drug use, bad language and swagger were irresistible to Tony Blair (you’ll recall the 1997 photo opportunity) is sipping a hot drink and telling me this country was better under Margaret Thatcher.

‘Under Thatcher, who ruled us with an iron rod,’ he says, ‘great art was made. Amazing designers and musicians. Acid house was born. Very colourful and progressive.

'Now, no one’s got anything to say. Write a song? No thanks, I’ll say it on Twitter. It’s a sad state when more people retweet than buy records.’


 
atm23 said:
Always seems like quite a nice bloke really, and you can't really have a go at people like Iggy Pop juts because they aren't dead, the insurance ads are a bit of an embarrassment, but for him not anyone else so I assume he thought fuck it and took the cash, its not like he is hurting anyone by doing an advert.
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Don't you think they are demons set loose on the earth to lower the standards tho?

Drink it in Ismene I intend to inflict myself on society for as long as possible

Yeah but all the good guys who took drugs and didn't make a fuss about it all drop dead don't they - Elvis, Hendrix. They didn't shout about it they just took more drugs than Ryder and Iggy put together and dropped dead ;)

Noel Gallagher did this a few months ago too.

Noel "The new Oasis album is as good as definately maybe..honest.." Gallagher?
 
Issy I thought you were on a wind up to begin with but now I think maybe you're the one who's been wound up.
 
These people make music, their human, they are fallible, you just seem to wish them dead which seems a little harsh, we are entitled to change our political view and who hasn't told the odd porky here and there.

I couldn't give a shit what any of them think about politrics its all BS anyhow
 
but Spadey I read this article when I was in bed last night so nyah!

decent gag if it is date related shenanigans though.

nice one, grauniad/observer <3

[and if it is japery, will issy own up to getting pwned or will he say 'e wuz in on it?]

I'll certainly admit to getting assraped in thee circumstances
 
atm23 said:
These people make music, their human, they are fallible, you just seem to wish them dead which seems a little harsh, we are entitled to change our political view and who hasn't told the odd porky here and there.
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Arn't we entitled to have a rock star every now and again who isn't under Camerons thumb tho or sucking satans pecker in adverts tho? Do they all have to have absolutely no dignity whatsoever and just see money as their God?

I mean Iggy Pop selling insurance for a firm that bans all convicted drug users from having insurance with them? That's a little too much irony for my liking.
 
It's a bloody outrage! This contry's going to hell in a handcart!

V V Credulous
Tunbridge Wells
 
this is/was an awesome gag. and a lovely parody of Noel coming out of the Thatcher closet it seems. too bad i didnt cotton on.

ace stuff =D
 
Ismene said:
Arn't we entitled to have a rock star every now and again who isn't under Camerons thumb tho or sucking satans pecker in adverts tho? Do they all have to have absolutely no dignity whatsoever and just see money as their God?

I mean Iggy Pop selling insurance for a firm that bans all convicted drug users from having insurance with them? That's a little too much irony for my liking.
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I agree its ironic and probably out of order but do we own these peoples persona's ?? surely they can do as they like, I mean would you have such a problem if Ian Donaldson from Screwdriver suddenly started doing ads for insurance that they sell to black people ??

Do none of these people have right to have a view that may differ from one they have expressed in the past, musically or otherwise ? or the right to make money off the back of their fortunate fame ?

IMO these are just people making a living out of playing music and selling records, they sold out the moment they took any cash if you want to take your point to it's ultimate conclusion. I think you judge them to harshly they are just people, it is others that put them up on a pedestal
 
I don't think it's as narrow as something they said 20 years ago, more the knowledge that these people have some semblance of dignity being seperate to money. That on a dark night of the soul he's coming from a place of truth, rather than selling you an insurance policy.
 
atm23 said:
I think you judge them to harshly they are just people, it is others that put them up on a pedestal
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I think you're being harsh on guys like Hendrix who did offer something more than an insurance policy tho.
 
I think you're being harsh on guys like Hendrix who did offer something more than an insurance policy tho.
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Fucking LOL! :D

Issy is the best troll ever and he's still not been banned after all these years.
 
Ismene said:
Arn't we entitled to have a rock star every now and again who isn't under Camerons thumb tho or sucking satans pecker in adverts tho? Do they all have to have absolutely no dignity whatsoever and just see money as their God?

I mean Iggy Pop selling insurance for a firm that bans all convicted drug users from having insurance with them? That's a little too much irony for my liking.
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Simple answer ....no
 
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