crOOk
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Note: This is referring to full breakthrough K hole doses only!
Short version:
It's all about what you experienced during the hours leading up to the experience! The more out of the ordinary and the more people involved, the better. The actual affective state/mood does not really matter compared to experiences involving serotonergic psychedelics.
Long version:
So I've been doing K for over 10 years now and for some reason that's how long I took to realize how to get the most out of the experience. It's astonishingly simple.
The setting is always the same for me - Socially isolated. I always lie in bed. Lights on or off doesn't matter too much, but I tend to prefer lights on these days. I also prefer to listen to some good music (Air works really well for me, but everyone is different. See suggestions in the Music and Dissociatives Thread).
The mind set right when I go into the experience doesn't matter that much, I could be in the worst of moods and still have a great experience.
However what does matter is what I did before the experience, especially in the hours leading up to it. I noticed during my very first experiences that watching a movie pre-experience can set the theme for the k hole. I never realized how critical these hours leading up to the experience really are though.
Yesterday I tried an experiment of taking ketamine right after waking up and I ended up slamming it all day long. No matter the dose, the k holes were completely empty. All of them. Just nothing. Even a 2h phone chat with my dad about the soon-to-come death of my grandfather didn't change that. I never really knew if I had taken any if it hadn't been for the empty syringes. This is nothing short of remarkable, since I tend to always remember some part of the experience. It has been quite tricky to have exceptionally colorful dream-like experiences in the past and I always attributed this to some form of behavioural tolerance (I've never developed a tolerance in that I had to increase dosages at all, even during daily use).
Here are some examples:
- Recently I was on a four hour train ride with my daughter. There was a little bit of snow outside. We were picked up by her mum and went separate ways. I came home and immediately shot some ketamine. I found myself riding a train inside a snowy landscape which reminded me a lot of the movie Snowpiercer. Absolutely amazing.
- I spent xmas eve with friends, my daughter and her mum. When I took ketamine (immediately after coming home), all the people were still present and I found myself lying in the in rooms distantly reminding me of the place I just left. Again, amazing experience
- Any time I take ketamine after my daughter is picked up by her mum she accompanies me throughout the experience. The same goes for friends leaving prior to it.
I've observed this pattern over and over and while I had been aware of it, I never realized that my 'empty/fail holes' were all due to not being anywhere but home or socializing prior to the experience. I have a feeling that the more intense your dreams would be during the next period of sleep, the more dense/colorful/exciting the k holes will be.
It goes without saying that I'm highly looking foward to tonight's dose after the NYE celebrations!
Keep this in mind when you are in doubt whether it's a good time to do ketamine.
Short version:
It's all about what you experienced during the hours leading up to the experience! The more out of the ordinary and the more people involved, the better. The actual affective state/mood does not really matter compared to experiences involving serotonergic psychedelics.
Long version:
So I've been doing K for over 10 years now and for some reason that's how long I took to realize how to get the most out of the experience. It's astonishingly simple.
The setting is always the same for me - Socially isolated. I always lie in bed. Lights on or off doesn't matter too much, but I tend to prefer lights on these days. I also prefer to listen to some good music (Air works really well for me, but everyone is different. See suggestions in the Music and Dissociatives Thread).
The mind set right when I go into the experience doesn't matter that much, I could be in the worst of moods and still have a great experience.
However what does matter is what I did before the experience, especially in the hours leading up to it. I noticed during my very first experiences that watching a movie pre-experience can set the theme for the k hole. I never realized how critical these hours leading up to the experience really are though.
Yesterday I tried an experiment of taking ketamine right after waking up and I ended up slamming it all day long. No matter the dose, the k holes were completely empty. All of them. Just nothing. Even a 2h phone chat with my dad about the soon-to-come death of my grandfather didn't change that. I never really knew if I had taken any if it hadn't been for the empty syringes. This is nothing short of remarkable, since I tend to always remember some part of the experience. It has been quite tricky to have exceptionally colorful dream-like experiences in the past and I always attributed this to some form of behavioural tolerance (I've never developed a tolerance in that I had to increase dosages at all, even during daily use).
Here are some examples:
- Recently I was on a four hour train ride with my daughter. There was a little bit of snow outside. We were picked up by her mum and went separate ways. I came home and immediately shot some ketamine. I found myself riding a train inside a snowy landscape which reminded me a lot of the movie Snowpiercer. Absolutely amazing.
- I spent xmas eve with friends, my daughter and her mum. When I took ketamine (immediately after coming home), all the people were still present and I found myself lying in the in rooms distantly reminding me of the place I just left. Again, amazing experience
- Any time I take ketamine after my daughter is picked up by her mum she accompanies me throughout the experience. The same goes for friends leaving prior to it.
I've observed this pattern over and over and while I had been aware of it, I never realized that my 'empty/fail holes' were all due to not being anywhere but home or socializing prior to the experience. I have a feeling that the more intense your dreams would be during the next period of sleep, the more dense/colorful/exciting the k holes will be.
It goes without saying that I'm highly looking foward to tonight's dose after the NYE celebrations!
Keep this in mind when you are in doubt whether it's a good time to do ketamine.