Seeking spiritual guidance for solo mushroom trip

[choco1ate]

listen to "geogaddi" by boards of canada. it's not exactly spiritual but its... something

 

[ParappaTheRapper]

Not exactly spiritual but sit on the floor and write or type your uncensored thought processes leaving nothingout. Wait until the next day and read through it. There's a psychology term for this which escapes me but you'll learn a lot about yourself. on a more literal level its interesting to see how structure, word choice, handwriting and all that changes at different stages of a trip. sort of like those images of an artists drawings on acid if anyone knows what I'm talking aout, but with language. interesting to watch associations and word salad and clanging and all that too.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

^That can be pretty interesting/fun, though I usually just do it for a lil' while.

First create artifact that reminds you of your trip intention then use your time to explore your body and it's functions. It is good to be familiar with one's own body when seeking spiritual fulfilment.
You might want to destroy that artifact at the end of trip to give you impression of achievement. Should not be too many ceremonial steps.

You coulda said that to start with. The Satan thing reminds me vaguely of Willow's old Chaos Magic schtick.

 

[Halif]

You need to up your doses

This is actually what I was thinking too when the OP mentioned that they sometimes feel bored and wonder what to do next.

That sounds to me like the OP underdosed. Mushrooms can be incredibly intense, and with the right amount there will be no issue about what to do or trying to 'get something' out of the experience. There shouldn't be a need to try to direct the experience or wonder what to do next.

Of course, different amounts suit different people and occasions. Don't feel pressure to take more than you feel comfortable with.

I just thought when you mentioned that you'd like to "use" mushrooms for personal growth, there was something in that notion that clashed with my mushroom and cacti experiences. Mushrooms in particular, will "use" you under the right circumstances. The personal growth will come about on its own.

Take care and good luck with future experiences

 

[Incunabula]

Ooops im not on a high horse. I just have done proper research and know what I am talking about.

No,You are full of shit because:

First, you don't need to meditate to take psychedelics. that's a fact. To be telling people they shouldn't trip before they learned meditation is just ridiculous.

Second, you haven't "mastered" meditation. Buddhist/hindu monks spend their whole lives trying to master meditation. That you can talk about it like it's something you can just learn to master like riding a bike just goes to show you're clueless.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

You know you guys can disagree with each other respectfully, without any shit or horses involved. Respectfulness is rule #1 in PD, if you just lay out why you disagree with each other it's easier to meaningfully exchange ideas than when you get all harsh.

Faggot and Earthbounded, might the meditation issue be distilled down to this?

EB: Certain meditation practices and their accompanying spiritual framework of ideas have aided me immensely in dealing with the OP's issue. I highly advise that you become proficient in one of the myriad of meditation techniques before you trip again, since your stated purpose is the same thing I have found such techniques useful for.

F: I take umbridge with your use of the term "master", since it makes you sound like some pretentious arhat.

EB: I think you're disagreeing with the very idea of proficiency in a specific form of meditation (vs unproficiency, like say if NKB tried to do this out of nowhere, he'd just get bored/annoyed and receive no psychological benefit, which these practices have been proven to provide when done correctly. Mastered/proficient=correctly=meditating; Incorrectly=not meditating but trying to), this proposition of yours is most absurd.

F: I completely misunderstand that you are making a suggestion from your personal experience to solve a specific issue for a specific person, and think you're making some rule to be applied generally. Also, be humble and avoid terms like mastery of a spiritual practice, 'cause you can always go further.

 

[midnitecruiser]

Tripping on psychedelics is a highly personal experience.

The only preparation I have made in every single one of my trips, is to remind myself that I am about to be locked alone with my own mind. That idea might sound a little bit scarier for people who are natural extroverts (I'm not) or have never had the chance to do some serious soul searching before.

I find the novelty factor wears off from time to time, but the nature of psychedelics is that some effects are unpredictable at high doses. And that shifts gears, and brings some novelty back into the experience.
I've had 2 trips in the last few months after which I thought I might never have to trip anymore. Not that they were baad trips, I just felt a sense of accomplishment. After a few days or weeks, that feeling waned and my curiosity for further explorations returned.

Everybody's got their own little ritual and beliefs for tripping.
Meditation and incense, movies and music? Sure! If you like it...
Mysticism and/or eastern philosophies? It worked for at least some people, that later got famous and rich.
Whatever floats our boats, I guess.

Some trips need more preparation than others. Depends on how far you're going (in mushroom light-years) and how much emotional baggage and expectations you're carrying into the trip.

 

[Incunabula]

EB: Certain meditation practices and their accompanying spiritual framework of ideas have aided me immensely in dealing with the OP's issue. I highly advise that you become proficient in one of the myriad of meditation techniques before you trip again, since your stated purpose is the same thing I have found such techniques useful for.

F: I take umbridge with your use of the term "master", since it makes you sound like some pretentious arhat.

EB: I think you're disagreeing with the very idea of proficiency in a specific form of meditation (vs unproficiency, like say if NKB tried to do this out of nowhere, he'd just get bored/annoyed and receive no psychological benefit, which these practices have been proven to provide when done correctly. Mastered/proficient=correctly=meditating; Incorrectly=not meditating but trying to), this proposition of yours is most absurd.

F: I completely misunderstand that you are making a suggestion from your personal experience to solve a specific issue for a specific person, and think you're making some rule to be applied generally. Also, be humble and avoid terms like mastery of a spiritual practice, 'cause you can always go further.

spot on

Thank for clearing that up

 

[EarthBounded]

That was crude comment. My suggestion was no joke. Let me give you clarification. GumbyClaymation was looking ideas for his spiritual solo trips and many good ideas has already said and I thought to give some variation. Idea was something like that, if you aren't able to use reasoning. First create artifact that reminds you of your trip intention then use your time to explore your body and it's functions. It is good to be familiar with one's own body when seeking spiritual fulfilment.
You might want to destroy that artifact at the end of trip to give you impression of achievement. Should not be too many ceremonial steps.

This sounds like Black Magic and sex magic, this isnt the site for that. Sure destroying satan may help but I do not think that is what the original poster was looking for. There are other forums for what your talking about not here.

 

[jam uh weezy]

^lol get out of here dude. how dare you try dictate what this place is for or not.

 

[EarthBounded]

^lol get out of here dude. how dare you try dictate what this place is for or not.

Whatever Im sure the average bluelighter would be scared away by this, you are doing just as much dictating telling me to jet when I actually care about this site and harm prevention, I just thought it was either some joke post or just a little overboard we don't want to make people feel unwelcome

Suggesting to worship satan while your performing sexual acts is a bizarre recommendation for someone talking about where to go next on mushrooms I dont care what kind of response I get for saying that if your into it fine but this is a public forum, Im not saying I dont believe in magic or rituals but discussing them here on blue light doesnt seem like the place if you want threads to turn into a bunch of satanic sexual talk then you wont have a hard time getting me to leave like I said there are other places, at first i thought that person was joking.. it was also there first post.

It was my opinion dog it if you want.

Again i don't think thats what the OP was looking for.

Theres a lot more to magic then some 2 sentence blurb also.

 

[jam uh weezy]

hey dude. I didn't really read all the posts up till now, so I had no clue about what was going on. I just saw your comment at the end and it seemed silly!

but hey, we're all silly sometimes. i admire that you are able to meditate on psychedelics! i like to meditate, but never have the focus to do so while tripping. i sometimes perform my stretches and meditate for 20 mins or so while coming up, but one i get to a certain point i have to move around.

i think your advice to the OP about learning to meditate is great! i wouldn't say a required pre-requisite for tripping, but it will definitely enhance his spirituality and learning through psychedelics as well.

 

[EarthBounded]

You know you guys can disagree with each other respectfully, without any shit or horses involved. Respectfulness is rule #1 in PD, if you just lay out why you disagree with each other it's easier to meaningfully exchange ideas than when you get all harsh.

Faggot and Earthbounded, might the meditation issue be distilled down to this?

EB: Certain meditation practices and their accompanying spiritual framework of ideas have aided me immensely in dealing with the OP's issue. I highly advise that you become proficient in one of the myriad of meditation techniques before you trip again, since your stated purpose is the same thing I have found such techniques useful for.

F: I take umbridge with your use of the term "master", since it makes you sound like some pretentious arhat.

EB: I think you're disagreeing with the very idea of proficiency in a specific form of meditation (vs unproficiency, like say if NKB tried to do this out of nowhere, he'd just get bored/annoyed and receive no psychological benefit, which these practices have been proven to provide when done correctly. Mastered/proficient=correctly=meditating; Incorrectly=not meditating but trying to), this proposition of yours is most absurd.

F: I completely misunderstand that you are making a suggestion from your personal experience to solve a specific issue for a specific person, and think you're making some rule to be applied generally. Also, be humble and avoid terms like mastery of a spiritual practice, 'cause you can always go further.

10/4 I should not have used the term mastered, I should have used the term until you are comfortable with the meditation.

I stand behind this as a great technique for spiritual awareness.

 

[EarthBounded]

hey dude. I didn't really read all the posts up till now, so I had no clue about what was going on. I just saw your comment at the end and it seemed silly!

but hey, we're all silly sometimes. i admire that you are able to meditate on psychedelics! i like to meditate, but never have the focus to do so while tripping. i sometimes perform my stretches and meditate for 20 mins or so while coming up, but one i get to a certain point i have to move around.

i think your advice to the OP about learning to meditate is great! i wouldn't say a required pre-requisite for tripping, but it will definitely enhance his spirituality and learning through psychedelics as well.

lol no prob you had my head spinning for a second

 

[EarthBounded]

I would also like to point out if the OP is still around.

Kundalini and Chakra meditation ties into all of your interest originally stated.
psychology, eastern philosophy, origins of religion, physics, the meaning of life, etc...

 

[chch]

you'll learn to appreciate life after a bad trip. I'm not actually recomending this because you might die but

if you take a high dose while yoiu're lost in the woods, and you survive the wolves and bears and stuff, you'll be seriously happy just to go home and fuck our wife, because THATS THE POINT OF LIFE. THERE IS NOTHING ELSE. there is no enlightenment or knowledge of the universe. it's all bs. if you're dissatisfied with life, get a nicer/smarter/better looking wife and go drink pina coladas on a beach somewhere. that's it. there is no other point. people talking about meditation and stuff, that's great but it's just some monoamine/neurotransmitter chemical effect of feeling like you understand. so yeah, it's great if you get there but you'll not really know anything more than when you started.

try mdma for a change?