Seeking advice

[Syd_Barret]

I'm going to post this in TDS first, as I guess that is where it should be.
I thought about posting it in Cannabis discussion first since itd get more reads.. but we'll see.


My concern is that by smoking pot and drinking alcohol that I'm somehow setting myself up for failure in regards to relapsing on opiates again. For the last 3 or os years I've been on again off again with dope. Currently I'm off, and going strong.

Alcohol is something I've used for years, I have abused it in the past, but it was more of a college thing than anything. I drink recreationally these days, last night I had 3 beers. The night before that I had 2. Alcohol has never caused me to fiend for opiates or anything else for that matter.

Pot is something I tried first when I was 13 years old, I didn't really like it at the time and it wouldn't be until yearrrrss later when I was in my mid 20s that I would pick it up again.

Anyways, so I've been clean for over 1.5 mos again now. Clean off of opiates.
Now I won't lie, I did transition myself into a daily pot smoker by means of the heroin. what I mean by that is I was addicted to heroin just over 2 mos ago, and one of the things that really helped me to finally stop using was pot. I'd come home and instead of doing a shot, I'd smoke a few bowls. I noticed that when i was stoned, I had almost NO desire to get heroin, like it was really astonishing. Hell, the place I get my smoke from is down the street from where my dealer is, and I'm able to just go buy the pot!
I've had money in my hand that I could have spent on heroin, but didn't because I was stoned and really had no desire for the heroin.
Point is, marijuana obviously helped me kick heroin. I personally don't want to stop smoking if I don't have to.

But I'm currently working through the court system, and Im seeing a therapist who was about to shit his pants after I told him that I drink recreatinoally and smoke as well. I told him that the pot i smoke doesn't come up in a drug test (jwh 018), and that I drink maybe 2-3 beers on any given night, not including friday or saturday.
Shit, I dont even actually have a beer every night. I go nights at a time without booze.

So tell me what you think.

I already kinda have my opinion made up, but I really would like to hear from everyone else, maybe someone has something good to say.

In retrospect it was my mistake to tell the shrink about the booze and jwh 018, but ya know.. when you're in a setting like that, I mean I was just trying to be as honest as I could, assuming the doctor can't help you unless you're being honest.

So am I really just hanging out to the last embers of a way of life that is about to be extinct for me? getting high?

I don't think so, but maybe I'm deluding myself. I am fully capable of that, this I know, haha.

the way I view pot and booze is a take it or leave it thing. I really do love pot, way more than alcohol, but.. like for example, if I were enrolled in unversity right now, I would only drink alcohol on friday and saturday. And smoking would either be an end of the night thing, like right before bed, or only a weekend thing just like booze.
I'm confident that I could keep this kind of schedule. Why? Because i've done it before.

Sorry this post isnt organized well
Thanks

 

[MeddieFrac]

Nice!~!

 

[sinzz]

Sounds like u like pot .. i got a buddy who smoked it since he had been around 13 now he is 44. and still holds down a job family etc.. and he has smoked killer weed for years almost everyday..

Myself i dont like the weed buzz..parniods the hell out of me..just my 2 cents..take care

 

[Thick_as_a_Planck]

I'm not sure I follow your post completely - you said at the start that your primary worry is that pot will lead you back to opiates. But then you said several times that weed is about the one thing keeping you off them. Why are you worried if this is the case? It seems to be helping you a great deal.

I'm not gonna tell you that smoking pot daily for the rest of your life would be a sensible course of action, but like somebody said, it's not impossible, either. For me, it seems pretty simple, a straight choice between either opiates or weed - no fucking contest.

Go and make a joint man. Put some music on. Eat ice-cream.

 

[Lolie]

Just for the record, there is now a urine test available for JWH-018 but it's not yet in widespread use. It's not part of the standard screening panels but it could be ordered separately if someone had reason to screen for JWH-018.

Quite a few of my friends going through the court/corrections system have been brought undone because they were confident that random home visits would only happen during certain hours or on certain days and so they assumed that they had "safe" windows. Just be aware that those who supervise people through the court and corrections systems have seen and heard about every trick in the book.

You say you can take or leave alcohol and pot, so your life might be less complicated if you can go without getting high for the immediate future - especially if you get onto some kind of opiate dependence programme (which tends to go down well with the courts, especially if you do it voluntarily). I guess you need to ask yourself whether you can do that for however long you'll be accountable to some agency for your drug use.

 

[NwVeteran]

It makes since. When you leave an addiction that serious you need something to fall back on. I was addicted to coke and when i decided it was time to quit i just started smoking weed and cigarettes and it helped. My mom and dad was addicted to heroin, my mom quit it but now she drinks a lot because it keeps her mind off the smack. Once an addict always an addict.

 

[sam123]

I am in a similair siutation to yours. I am addicted to coke/meth and recently quit (200 days ago approx) and marijuana has certainly aidded me in my refraining from hard stimulants and relapsing. I occasionaly feel as if my weed use is excessive and worry that i should not be smoking weed so much, i honestly feel like that stems from paranoia relating to the weed.

i completely udnerstand what you are talking about in stating that when stoned u felt no urge to pick up opiates and i too feel the same thing which is exactly why i utilized weed in my "sobriety".

When i went home for a holiday break from school last year my family had an intervention on me. (good friend told them i was fucking up)
the addiction specialist that worked with us in the intervention and after the intervention definately understand how valuable marijuana can be for someone quitting hard drugs (which i found awesome ) and he even persuaded my parents to allow me to smoke marijuana. Since i was forced to the take MASSIVE amounts of drug tests their allowing me to smoke weed was crucial haaha.