Seduction and drugs

[pofacedhoe]

none of these drugs are going to improve the situation

asperger people learn social skills much more through trial and error. you need to get a job with huge volumes of social interaction. my social skills improved immeasurably when i worked in an airport and even though i hated it, it really made me very good at talking to people i dont know about anything at all.

sort yourself out and get a job where you can learn those skills- its doable

 

[nuttynutskin]

Instead of using meth, speed, opies, high dose MDMA or kratom for the same purpose?

Yes.

Using four-five drinks as a social lubricant is hardly anything to get your panties all twisted about.

Of course, seeking treatment for the Asperger's and improving social skills via sustainable methods (therapy, exposure etc.) is highly preferable, but if the OP is a drug user and would like to feel more comfortable socially, I see absolutely no harm in recommending he try a moderate amount of alcohol before he hits the opies or meth.

None of the ways he's going about this are good tho. Some drinks are better than resorting to meth, but that's kind of besides the point. The point is he needs to address his underlying issues, not turn to drugs. If he goes about it your prescribed way he will just arrive at the date half drunk with bad social skills.

 

[Mel22]

None of the ways he's going about this are good tho. Some drinks are better than resorting to meth, but that's kind of besides the point. The point is he needs to address his underlying issues, not turn to drugs. If he goes about it your prescribed way he will just arrive at the date half drunk with bad social skills.

Of course addressing the underlying issues is the smart way to go about it, I outlined that in my last post. But, do we tell every addict on here to go to rehab, and not give information regarding substances because we feel that they're using for the "wrong" reasons?

The OP is asking for advice in relation to substances that can help to provide a temporary confidence boost, and I answered accordingly. OP has already tried a range of substances in order to achieve this, and is considering trying high doses of MDMA, opiates or meth next.

If the kid wants to head out and pick up a girl (he stated that he is also interested in casual sex) and would like a confidence boost, then as I said, I feel that a moderate dose of alcohol is much safer than the alternatives that he listed.

Sure, we could preach abstinence, but this site's mission is harm reduction, and I do not feel that my advice was in any way reckless or dangerous. I'm sure OP has tried for a long time to work on his social skills whilst sober, and I hope that he will continue to do so. However, he asked a question related to something else, and I simply answered it.

 

[One Thousand Words]

We are talking about a country of pussies who can't drink, let alone leave home until they are 21 Mel.

When we were both 19 we had left home and been getting our drunk on legally for a year or two. You won't have any social confidence until you have to do the walk of shame at 9am.

 

[Mel22]

I would be lost without your pearls of wisdom, BUSTY.

carry on then SLR. carry on.

 

[llama112]

Yeah 4-5 drinks for someone without tolerance isn't a good idea. I can drink 1 or 2 and be fine... once it gets to 3 or 4, I don't know, not a good idea.

 

[Dunno]

I can help you out. Give me a few weeks

 

[nuttynutskin]

Of course addressing the underlying issues is the smart way to go about it, I outlined that in my last post.

Yes I agree with that part.

But, do we tell every addict on here to go to rehab, and not give information regarding substances because we feel that they're using for the "wrong" reasons?

There's a bit of a difference in providing information about substances someone is already going to do vs. encouraging an underage person with Asperger's to drink as a way to cure their social problems. That to me isn't harm reduction.

Sure, we could preach abstinence, but this site's mission is harm reduction, and I do not feel that my advice was in any way reckless or dangerous. I'm sure OP has tried for a long time to work on his social skills whilst sober, and I hope that he will continue to do so. However, he asked a question related to something else, and I simply answered it.

Again I just don't see it as good advice in regards to harm reduction, even though what he's been doing isn't any better.

We are talking about a country of pussies who can't drink, let alone leave home until they are 21 Mel.

When we were both 19 we had left home and been getting our drunk on legally for a year or two. You won't have any social confidence until you have to do the walk of shame at 9am.

What's with you? Your latest posts seem uncharacteristic of you or at least what I've seen from you in the past around the forum.

 

[Abject]

19 is not underage in Australia. Unless you have a particularly small or sensitive liver 5 standard drinks is not much even with no tolerance. Furthermore, MELs comment says to allow time between ur last drink before having more, and to casually have drinks to see how you react.

Not only is the OP inclined to meth, there have been comments praising it, and your issue is with alcohol?
Eat a few dexies instead.. Meth is a directly neurotoxic drug with no benefits over amp for "seducing women" (in fact you might get too chatty on the meths) but in the name of HR alcohol is so bad!! forget about non methylated amphetamine, why would you give a fuck about your dopamine and serotonin receptors on a HR site

 

[Bagseed]

And why is that exactly? I can't imagine how an adult male consuming 4-5 standard drinks could be dangerous? As a small female with no alcohol tolerance, I can manage 5 drinks without any issue. I don't see the problem.

yeah, but you probably have much previous experience with alcohol, which isn't the case with the OP

5 drinks in Australia is standard for beginning a night or dropping by the pub with some mates, let alone using it as a confidence booster to get shagged.

yeah, but your country appears to be full of alcoholics, tbh

and, to be clear: in my opinion, OP should deal with the problem w/o any drugs, but if he wants a helper, I'd recommend only a low dose of alcohol.

 

[nuttynutskin]

19 is not underage in Australia. Unless you have a particularly small or sensitive liver 5 standard drinks is not much even with no tolerance.

Furthermore, MELs comment says to allow time between ur last drink before having more, and to casually have drinks to see how you react.

Not only is the OP inclined to meth, there have been comments praising it, and your issue is with alcohol?
Eat a few dexies instead.. Meth is a directly neurotoxic drug with no benefits over amp for "seducing women" (in fact you might get too chatty on the meths) but in the name of HR alcohol is so bad!! forget about non methylated amphetamine, why would you give a fuck about your dopamine and serotonin receptors on a HR site

Like I already said I don't think any of it's good, and no where did I say that meth would be a better option. But honestly I consider alcohol up their with the worst drugs. Just because it's culturally excepted to start binge drinking at an early age doesn't really hold any merit as far as how harmful it is. And like Bagseed alluded to I don't think Australia is the best standard to go by as far as "normal" drinking, no offense.

Regardless, I stand by what I've said. The OP needs to work on the root of his social problems, his Asperger's (which is now just a part of the autism spectrum). I'm not an expert by any means, but I'd question how much the people advocating that the OP use alcohol know about what until recently was Asperger's. One of the main problems of people with it is difficulty in reading people. Facial expressions, social cues, etc. and I don't see alcohol helping with any of those things.

 

[pofacedhoe]

basically this thread is turning into a my drug is better than your drug thread

lets avoid this please because its not constructive to the needs of the OP

with aspergers you need to gain vast swathes of social interaction to develop your social skills by trial and error. its acheiveable and this is what the OP should be aiming for. making real and long lasting additions to his social skills in a way that will last a lifetime.

one of my friends is some sort of high functioning autism. couldn't pick up girls for ages- now does loads of excercise and cut out citalopram and has lots of women. admitedly he picks a lot of them up in pubs but thats cos he's a pisshead. but when he was younger it wouldn't have worked (and didn't from what i remember). its the trial and error social skills not the drink thats working because he's kind of on it with women sober too.

a large part of attracting women is to make yourself as buff as possible. get down the gym and after a few months you will notice an improvement and this will make you more confident

 

[TweakFace]

Well I feel like I'll be beating a dead horse adding anything here but,

Drugs can definitely give you a confidence boost, especially the uppers but at a cost. First drugs that come to mind are Cocaine, Meth and MDMA, so basically the uppers. I just wanted to add that, lets say you do take coke for example for means of talking to a girl and possibly going further. Lets also say it works out nicely and you finally get that girl you've been want. What are happens next time you go out to meet girls? Are you going to take a drug again to get the confidence boost? This is how addiction starts so just be cautious!