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No one says the baker can't have his beliefs, or go to church, or have a "Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve!!!" bumper sticker on his car. But if he has a PUBLIC business...that is open to the PUBLIC...that benefits from GAY tax dollars as well as straight tax dollars...he shouldn't be able to deny a reasonable and ordinary request from a gay couple. He is refusing a request from a gay couple that he would have accepted from a straight couple. That is a fact. Any argument against this point is semantic and disingenuous.
I suggest to the baker, if your precious anti-gay beliefs are so important to you, open your business on private land. Run it from your home. Take private orders. Practice your art (lol...such BS) somewhere you can be free to discriminate as you please.
It's private land. Most stores lease their location from a private company that owns the land. It's a private company, it's not publicly traded.
If I start a small business, what gives you the right to use force to tell me who I can and can't do business with? That's what's bullshit.
Liberals talk about being about tolerance and peace and against violence, but it's all lies. It's tolerance until you disagree, then you use violence, force, guns, to get your own way.
You might call that an exaggeration to say you're using guns and violence, but it's not, cause it's ALWAYS guns and violence once you make it a matter of law. You tell me I have to serve someone, then if I refuse, you take me to court, then you give me a fine, if I refuse that, we start talking jail, if I refuse that, a warrant for my arrest is issued, and if i refuse that, force will be used, and finally if I refuse THAT, the guns come out. Fucking bunch of hypocrites.
If it's a privately owned small business it should get to do what it wants. You might get me to agree with using laws and force against large companies, publicly traded companies, but not against something this small.
Private businesses are not government services to which the public is entitled. You don't have a right to use private facilities however you like provided you compensate them for it. But that's always the belief of the extreme anti capitalist left, that all business are actually public services that exist for their use answerable to them, controlled by them. And to which defiance will result in the use of force. I don't accept that, that's fucked. Neither do I accept that the concept of "be tolerant and accepting or I'll hurt you" as either morally acceptable. Or rationally sensible.
Worse still, it's not like your options are force, or nothing. You COULD boycott the business, use social media to shut them down. Perfectly democratic, excellent example of community action at work. But no, you only do that if your first option fails, and the first option is always legal, which involves force. And violence if that force is continually resisted.