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Salvia - Experienced - Slaves of The System

Splatt

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Drug: Salvia (dried leaf)
Dose: 5 cones (a.k.a. bowls)

Set: I was still a bit intoxicated from the half bottle of Canadian Club whiskey I consumed a few hours earlier. Generally in a good mood. The trip was not planned and was a heat of the moment suggestion.

Setting: In a Falcon (Go Fords :p) on the side of the road near my house. Okay, not exactly the most preferred place to do it, but it was quiet, dark and the seats were reclineable and comfortable. And we could not exactly smoke salvia at 3:30am inside my house while everyone is fast asleep.

Introduction: I'm fairly experienced with salvia having had break-through experiences a fair few times. I am mostly experienced with the dried leaf, but have tried an extract a couple of times before without much success. I tend to stick to the leaf, since it's a lot cheaper and has never failed to impress me. The following trip was not the most powerful I have had but it was interesting. As I mentioned above I was not in what I would call the most preferred setting, and I would normally not do psychedelics while drunk, but the alcohol was wearing off pretty fast. The last time I had smoked salvia was on the "comedown" of one and a half clean MDMA pills a week earlier, but I only had one cone, just to get the minimal effects of it. Before I go on, I must tell you that Salvia really is a special plant. It's is in its own class and nothing in the world is like it. This makes it very hard to explain. Salvia experiences can mean a lot to the user, and be very hard to explain exactly happened, but I'm going to try my hardest!

The Trip: I had gone inside after my friend had pulled up at my house and collected the required instruments and paraphernalia. My friend was the one who suggested we do Salvia, as he had been thinking about doing it again for a while. So I stayed straight and let him have the first adventure, just because he was less experienced than I was with this drug, and it's always good to play safe and have a sober sitter.

The way I have a salvia session is let one person complete their trip before the next person does, because noise can be very weird and sometimes uncomfortable. Especially if one person is tripping and laughing their head off, and one is very, very confused and uncomfortable about what is going on. So I packed his bong and handed him the lighter. He had 3 cones, went into his trip, which hopefully he will be reporting some time soon, and around 4 minutes later he grabbed the steering wheel, put his head up straight, tapped me and asked for another bong hit. I loaded it and he smoked and re-entered his trip. I gave him his time, and when he came out of it he attempted to explain the experience to me, but of course the salvia had made his speech very slurred and I wasn't fully understanding what he was saying until he explained it when he was a bit more sober. I think his experience influenced mine some what, as he was telling me he saw how his mind, brain and body were working together.

It was my turn, he had explained his experience in good detail, and I was understanding what he says, just from experience with the drug in the past. So I chopped the rest of the salvia leaves in the bag and packed my first cone. I did not have very good luck with keeping in the smoke. As soon as I got it into my lungs I just wanted to cough. My throat was a fairly bit irritated and dry that day so I put it down to that. I packed my second cone, inhaled the flaming contents, with my eyes fixated on the burning material. I went to pack my third cone, feeling the salvia coming on pretty strong now, that very familiar feeling that just cannot be compared to any other chemical out there. I remember feeling I was being watched, once again, and I got this feeling deep in my stomach, that can only be described as "familiar". Which doesn't make sense, it's more like an overwhelming feeling of deja vu from a past life or something.

I remember putting the lighter to the third cone, and before inhaling saying out loudly, "I'm coming!". But My friend swears that I did not say this at all. I even remember seeing my mouth move in the winscreen reflection. I inhaled the contents once again, and coughed badly again. The smoke felt harsh for me this time around, but it is normally smooth once it it inside of your lungs. Once again, I packed another cone of the salvia and by this time I could really feel the experience kicking in strong. Weird patterns were starting to form in my vision, and got much more intense when my eyes were closed. I managed to pack one more cone and inhaled the contents and sat back, closed my eyes and relaxed in the chair while handing the bong to my friend.

I recall seeing a series of very weird, purple thin, cone-shaped objects, coming closer and closer to me. Each section of the pin-like objects coming closer and closer towards me, in a mexican-wave type of pattern. They got closer and closer until I started questioning what was happening. What was left of my mind was trying to understand where I was, who I was, or even what I was. I could only describe what I was, and where I was as a system inside my being. Where was I? I have no idea. But it did not matter, because my mission was to be a layer of cells and help this system live on. As the shaped closed in me even further, and started pressing up against me, I accepted the fact what whatever I was, it did not matter, because I was about to expire, but it did not phase me in the slightest. I was just part of a big system, that was created to live for one thing, that task had been completed so now it was time for death. I welcomed death and felt it spread through me.

By this time, my mind kind of came back into play, and I managed to say "What the fuck?", and "That doesn't make sense!" a few times, my friend stayed still and did not reply as we agreed on earlier. But I was quickly sucked back into the experience even with my eyes open and was now reincarnated as a different part of this system. My vision was fixated out side the car door window, and it was not like what I saw was really there, it was more like part of another system, but I could decode each piece of this information I saw, molecule by molecule, in various amazing patterns. Part of me realised just how much of everything we take for granted, especially the System! ;)

I managed to move my head, and took in all the detailed information in between the half a second I had turned my head. This was probably the most complex patterns and formations I have ever got on any drug. The new location the System wanted to view was now in focus, and my job was to decode this information carefully for the System. The System must be happy and functioning at all times, even if it means the death of you. I mean, what does it matter if you die, there's are thousands and millions of other clones of you doing the same job in this sub-system. Then, something happened that kind of brought me out of th experienced. My hand moved and it has knocked over the chop bowl all over my pants. As the salvia was finally chopped, to almost a powder, it clouded the air in the car for a moment and looked very interesting through the cabin light which was turned on as I requested. Seeing the salvia everywhere did bring me out of the intense trip, but I was not straight. I laughed for what seemed like a minute or more, very loudly and excessive, and then tried to salvage some of the precious plant matter. I managed to rescue maybe another dose for another time.

I was still feeling the salvia body sensations, but also a tony bit uncomfortable for some reason, as my leg was in the corner of the car, and for some reason this made me feel a bit trapped. I managed to move my leg away, and then open the door for some fresh air. I knew I would not enter the trip again, and was not exactly in the right mindset to smoke the rest of it then. I have a strong feeling this experience will lead on to the next time I smoke salvia, because it was interrupted and I feel there was a very important lesson in the works. The whole intense part of my trip lasted maybe 5-7 minutes, but it was not timed so I cannot be sure.

We got out of the car and walked around some suburban streets at four in the A.M. discussing our experiences and trying to explain and understand them. After much concern about my friend being safe on the road, he drove off to home as he did not experiencing the effects of the salvia anymore. I gathered my gear and retired to inside where it was warm. I did feel a fair bit of a head-ache, which I put down to the coughing and laughing. Interesting to note this was only the second time I have laughed on Salvia, the other time was a lowish dose experiment. After laying in bed for a couple more hours, I flaked out and had about 5 to 6 hours sleep. I did not feel that refreshed in the morning, and felt a fair bit groggy and tired, but I did drink on that night too.

Conclusion: How do I conclude this trip? Well, it was definitely influenced by my mates experience which was really interesting. Maybe the salvia trip outcome can be more controllable than we think? I mean, salvia will always take you somewhere strange, but maybe with the use of pre-trip meditation you can set a question or problem in your mind that is to be explored. I really can see therapeutic uses in Salvia and I must explore this much more in the future.

So what did this experience mean? Well, I am going to wait until the next trip to try and piece this into a meaning. But basically it split me up into small systems, which are essentially mindless slaves inside "The System", which was basically just my mind and body, I still really have no idea what it was going to explain to me, but we will see if it continues next trip round, and if so I will be sure to report it!
 
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In-Fucking-Sane!

Honestly man, this trip report is one of the most intriguing I've read in recent memory. Salvia intrigues me, one of these days I must get around to trying it. :)

-plaz out-
 
Excellent report:)

I've had a gram or so of 5x sitting around for awhile now,i was unable to breakthrough after my first few attempts so i'd given up for the time being.
Anyway after reading this i thought"well he breaksthrough of leaf so i'm sure i can do it with 5x"
So i got the bong out(without water this time)and packed about 150mg in a cone and ripped it down.
I was actually holding the smoke in trying to pack another cone thinking"fuck,my salvia must be fake"
Needless to say i didn't get to pack the other cone.
What can i say,,i'm impressed.
The reason i wrote this is,i left this page open while i tripped and i could feel,see hear?? Splatt and Nickthecheese giving me advice(or something) via a wierd ceramic cable stretching from the comp to a pillow next to me,except the pillow wasn't a pillow anymore but a muscular purple man in the feotal(sp?) position,who was somehow relaying messages to me.
I was going to write a trip report but i don't think it would make much sense.
I think i might go chill out and process everything.
Peace.
 
Thanks for the kind replies!
aloowishus: Wow, very interesting! Sounds like salvia alright :) Salvia trips are very hard to explain mate, just give yourself some time to reflect and I'm sure you could word a report together if you wanted :)

Also, remember salvia is reverse-tolerant, meaning you would need less the get the same intensity as your last trip..
 
I dont understand why everyone has a similar sort of theme in their Salvia trips. A lot of peole report being aware of beloging to a collective concious, or apart of a system as Splatt explained. I am not too experienced with tripping, but isnt it odd that people have the same thoughts?
 
I too feel the system while on Salvia.. it almost feels mechanic. My friends have reported the same feelings. My first "break through"(most intense) had me stuck into a small space surrounded by concrete blocks which were actually ( upon further inspection) children packed into cubes. My friend B has been in some kind of factory before as well. By the way, discussing your salvia trip with close friends right after it occurred is quite an amazing experience to say the least.
 
salvia r0cks! great report splatt :) definately one of the more interesting ones ive read. it's odd that you say you can only describe the feeling as "familiar" because i know exactly what you mean :) i cant explain it to anyone who's never done salvia... you just have to know. keep up the good work =P

ive got quite a bit of 15x ill be trying later. my breakthrough experience was on 12x so im a bit excited and nervous at the same time. ive done more than my share of hallucinogenics yet salvia (when done right) is sometimes almost more than i can handle, which is what intrigues me about it. it's so mind blowing. ill see what happens and maybe write up a report later as well.
 
I'm glad someone knows what I'm talking about with that.. familuar feeling! Argh, if only I could put it into words! :) I encourage you to report your trip, I love salvia reports!

If you haven't done the Salvia Survey yet, fill it out now!
http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/survey/

Thanks again for all the kind replies :)
 
A fantastic report :).

You kinda lost me a little when you started explaining the "System", but non the less, it sounds like quite an experience.

I've got some dried Salvia leaf left over from a few weeks back, and this is exactly the kind of thing that makes me want to cone some up :)

Thanks for sharing :)
 
Salvia is the kind of thing that must be experienced, it is very hard to explain, as you would expect from a very potent psychedelic that is in it's own class of drugs. But you might have a simular experience and go "yep! i understand you now!" Thanks for reading
 
fadetobliss said:
My friend B has been in some kind of factory before as well. By the way, discussing your salvia trip with close friends right after it occurred is quite an amazing experience to say the least.

just curious, cause my friends sometimes call me B and i had a very simialr trip, is this T-ball? perhaps Hatty?

anyway, yes all those who have not yet tried salvia but were thinking about it, DO IT NOW! it is very unlike anything else i've ever tried and can really make you question things. my first trip involved an industrial park type situation with suits of people. very odd and made me stop and think about what it meant. very fun times and a great exp.
 
Splatt said:
I'm glad someone knows what I'm talking about with that.. familuar feeling! Argh, if only I could put it into words! :) I encourage you to report your trip, I love salvia reports!

If you haven't done the Salvia Survey yet, fill it out now!
http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/survey/

Thanks again for all the kind replies :)

Wow, what a report, Splatt. This sounds like a very interesting plant. I can't wait to start experimenting with this.


BTW - Is there a report of some kind that will publish the results of the survey. It seems to be closed as of the 20th of August, and darn... I never had a chance to add to it. I'm looking forward to the results.

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Very nice report. Personally, I just can't put into words what I experience while on Salvia-maybe some day..


feeling the salvia coming on pretty strong now, that very familiar feeling that just cannot be compared to any other chemical out there.

Yes!! When I venture into Sally Space, I always feel like I'm coming home. It's so damm familiar its unnerving. Nothing else I've tried is even remotely similiar.


I remember feeling I was being watched, once again, and I got this feeling deep in my stomach, that can only be described as "familiar". Which doesn't make sense, it's more like an overwhelming feeling of deja vu from a past life or something.

I always feel like I'm being watched. And I'm starting to think its me doing the watching, or my "higher-self", from some other reality, or super-reality. This I actually saw during one trip:

I had just smoked in bed in another room and suddenly I saw myself (my back) sitting at the computer. I just lay there contemplating this and realizing the "me at the computer" was a sub-reality of the reality I was looking from....and I started laughing and feeling an incredible euphoria at the realization that there were more realities/dimensions- though I already knew this- but now I had actually seen for myself..


I have a strong feeling this experience will lead on to the next time I smoke salvia, because it was interrupted and I feel there was a very important lesson in the works.

Yesss. There seems to be a feeling of continuity within succesive Salvia trips. I've picked up where I left off before many times.


Maybe the salvia trip outcome can be more controllable than we think?

Yup I think so. The first few times I tried Salvia,The voices yelling at me(chuckle) were doing so in Spanish( first language I learned) until I asked them to speak in English from now on..guess what.. they did :)


I really can see therapeutic uses in Salvia and I must explore this much more in the future.

Alot of people have been reporting anti-depressant effects on other forums from micro-dosing- including me. I'll take a leaf or 2 and quid them, or smoke a small bowl of regular leaf, a couple of times a week- it helps I find.
 
Salvia…

I am often transported to what I can only describe as a perceptually distorted, multidimensional funhouse with glowing conduits of information/energy. It is strange because I feel I can recognize the flow but not navigate it, much like I have to "decode the information" as Splatt said.
 
salvia = wierd

5-HT2 said:
Salvia…

I am often transported to what I can only describe as a perceptually distorted, multidimensional funhouse with glowing conduits of information/energy. It is strange because I feel I can recognize the flow but not navigate it, much like I have to "decode the information" as Splatt said.

After smoking 10 cones of dried salvia div leaf I had a glimpse into this kind of "factory/production line" multiverse. There was a spirtiual feeling as if I was not alone in that place, the spirit had something of a mentor/teacher feeling to it, and it was male, unlike the female entity often reported by other users. I belive the action of smoking 10 cones in a row produced the feeling of being on a production line and if I had the chance to smoke some extract, I'm not sure if I would get the same kind of multiversal shift... :)
 
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