"(Salvia D / low to high amounts) 11x uses. ---Destiny?---"

[ziggo]

All these eleven uses took place a few years ago now. My first few uses were simple & low end, just those basic feelings of starting to leave your body, drift off, and feeling compartmentalized.

Now my fifth time is where things get unique, with a torch lighter in a sunny room and a high amount I smoked and laid down on my bed when suddenly I was floating in space with only blackness all around except for one single point of glowing white light far ahead of me. At this point I recognized the presence of two entities or beings behind me on both sides. One said to the other "what is he doing here? He shouldn't be here yet." The other spoke back "you're right, send him back." Then the white point of light turned into a horizon and beams of light that were square images of moments in my life flew at me and through me, until I got to one that looked like I was sitting up from my bed, when this one came I opened my eyes and got propelled forward onto the floor of my room.

Now the next 5 uses were the same as before just bodily sensations & weird mental places but no breakthroughs.

On the 11th time I was out in the woods when I smoked more than usual with a torch and this time I started seeing everything in my field of view as myself - I was one with everything & everyone, but it wasn't in a good way, it was in a terrifying way which entailed me tearing myself into pieces in extreme pain constantly over and over for an eternity. Then I started to see words being made out of myself, such as "this is everything" and another sentence I don't recall. Anyways this trip was so stressful that it gave me PTSD and I started having flashbacks of the trip daily, which put me into extreme agony, despair, & rage. Eventually I was going to kill myself if I didn't stop these flashbacks, when I remembered that opiates kill mental+physical pain so I called up a friend of a friend to get heroin and started doing heroin daily for almost two years. I don't recommend doing opiates to anyone unless they're the only thing that will stop you from killing yourself. I haven't done heroin for a year & I don't have the flashbacks anymore so all is well.

That's part of my story and I wonder if I will meet those entities again who I felt like were manipulating my destiny since that salvia trip so long ago.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

My personal experience (along with the 'native use') dictates it MUST be used at night in the dark. I mean the salvinorin A will have an effect, but you will miss most of what it is doing. I did a little last night...about a 1/2g of leaf from Oaxaca that is at least 14 years old...never dreamed it would do much....first time since, gosh must be 2000, and yeah it is a very strange, somewhat disturbing entheogen. Last night, really all I got was the experience of reality/my body being pulled and stretched away, actually felt my physical self stretching as though I were made of rubber and something was tugging on my lip and stretching me. It was late at night and I was only trying to see if this old ass leaf still worked so I wasn't prepared, turned on the light (which really didn't stop it) and rode it out.

I look forward to later this week having a very trusted friend around me so I can smoke a full dose and let go, see where it takes me. I definitely understand why most people never use this more than once or twice....maybe it is like Datura in that it takes a special sort of person to really make the most from it.

Interesting report...try it again at night if you can.