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Salvia "Bad" Trips. Why do I not fear them?

Michaelsd

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Why am I not frightened by the "scary" things that happened on salvia? I mean,when I'm on it, I'm scared sometimes by whats happening,but after I'm coherent,I'm still fine with tripping on it again,while other friends say its horrifying. Is it weird that I'm okay with the bad trips on salvia?
 
Hi Michaelsd, I'm going to move this to Psychedelic Discussion where you will probably get more answers. TDS --------> PD
 
Some people are not comfortable period with certain types of psychadelics. I know some people who HATE disassociatives. They simply cannot stand the feeling of being detached from their body. I don't think you're strange for wanting to trip with salvia again - a lot of people really like the experience.
 
You're not weird for enjoying (or at least aren't put off by) Salvias undeniably strange effects. It's a powerful and immersive drug, if you enjoy dissociative-type experiences (even though Salvia is not a dissociative), for instance k-holing, you may well enjoy salvia.

I think the reason that it has a bad reputation is because it is one of the few things that virually anyone can get, like DXM. This means that pretty much all drug users have, at least once or twice, smoked salvia. This means that people who were never going to enjoy the effects of salvia (because they like MDMA/methamp/heroin or some other 'clean' high) end up taking it, having a terrible time and telling everyone about how "Salvia knocked the shit out of me, I don't care if it's fucking legal, you could not pay me to smoke that shit again".

I don't smoke salvia much on its own because I have a tendency to lurch around when I'm under the influence (so am worried I'll fall onto a table or light the house on fire or something) but I don't want to have a trip sitter because you can't help but laugh at the guy drooling and grunting like a monkey. If I want a really strong, strange dissociative experience I'll plug some ketamine (k-hole dose) and as I'm coming up I'll smoke a huge bowl of salvia. The ketamine keeps me in my bed, the salvia upgrades the technology onboard my intergalatic spaceship ;)
 
I don't enjoy Salvia but I also don't doubt someone could enjoy it. Part of the uncomfortable feelings came from sweating a lot and feeling such a quick, strange transformation. I also seem to mumble a lot on it though I think I'm making perfect sense. All of these things could be considered pleasant by someone.
 
Most people do not like psychedelics because it opens doors in your mind and things that are laying dormant in your head usually surfaces when your on a trip, people tend to fight the feelings instead of just letting your emotions come and confront em
 
I understand the OP's lack of fear. I have some strange new things happen to me on salvia, things that would in real life cause great fear, but somehow the Salvia state operates outside of the emotions. I feel like I'm dealing with levels of consciousness rather than the emotions of earthly life. If you want it, Salvia can be a great teacher.
 
Even though you like a substance it can still create pre-flight anxiety. I've never smoked Salvia but DMT really makes me nervous beforehand and know that it is quite common
Like a rollercoaster where you get nervous even though you know that nothing will happen, and it'll be great....
 
I get a little apprehensive before smoking salvia, but I've never been afraid. I think certain people just are perhaps more sensitive to its (and other psychedelics) effects, and thus fear what may happen to them.
 
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