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Salvia 20x & 10x - Very Experienced - Repeat Experience Layers Of Reality

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I've never really felt like writing a trip report before but I think it might help me
to gather my thoughts by putting my experiences with Salvia in words. The first was the longer and more terrifying of my two experiences.

It all started about a month ago when me and 4 other friends were sitting at
my friend R's house just hanging out like usual loading up bowl after bowl (friends present were R, S, T, and W). Someone brought up Salvia and suggested that we run over to the local headshop and pick up some because S was 18.

So we all squeeze in the car and head over. We get there and pickup a gram of the 10x Extract. I am very experienced with a number of different psychedelics and was pretty confident and excited to experience this new substance. I had done loads of research on Salvia and often enjoy reading trip reports on it. I was aware of its potential to cause very realistic and bizarre hallucinations and I found particular interest in the realistic horror stories some people described.

Okay, well we arrive back at R's house and I tell my friends that they are only going to need like a pinch each. S and W went first and they're laughing, giggling, and having a great time acting like retards. They say they both thought they were swimming and described intricate psychedelic patterning.
T takes several hits with absolutely no effect but says he thinks its because he is on speed at the moment. So now it's my turn to try this stuff. I packed the bowl real fat and took one huge rip and held it in for 20-30 seconds and upon inhaling immediately roast the bowl again and hold it in for 20-30 seconds. This is where shit gets crazy. Once I exhale I have no control of my body anymore and it's like I'm frozen. I can't bring myself to put down the bowl. According to my friends from this point on I lie back on to the bed and start drooling and babbling. Have you ever seen someone blackout with their eyes open and when you look into their eyes you can just see that nobody is home? That's how they described it. This part is very hard to explain because it really doesn't make sense according to the physical boundaries of our reality. Suddenly I am aware of infinite layers of reality all lined up on top of each other. Outside the realities is infinite black space more than I've ever perceived. I start screaming a long sentence in this place but time keeps starting over( like i'm screaming what then it starts over and i'm screaming whatt theeeee then it starts over and im screaming what the heeeellllllll) each time it starts over I get the incredibly realistic, uncomfortable feeling of being ripped or peeled apart than thrown back into this chaotic loop. I can't really find the words to describe exactly how it looks seeing the layers on top of each other but it was very disturbing and terrifying. They said I was only out for 1-2 minutes but if you would have asked me how long I was in that place I would estimate 15-20 minutes.

As I'm nearing the completion of the sentence I become aware that it is rapidly approaching the reality that I actually belong to. The sentence ends just as I come back to earth( what the hell is happening to me). Suddenly I'm aware of the room and am slowly remembering the details of my life. I bug out and start flipping out at my friends screaming at them to put the pipe down. I thought that if they hit it it would send me back there again. Slowly I calmed down and described this to my friends but I got the feeling that they weren't really buying it because of the mildness of their experiences. R has hit the bowl 9 times and is only experiencing slurred speech and patterns. I was the only one to breakthrough and I felt apart from the group. So I left and went home.

OK, so yesterday I'm with another group of friends, M and his girlfriend J, and C. M is interested in Salvia and wants to try some so calls his friend to take him to the headshop and pick some up. I am much closer to this group and a lot more comfortable with them having tripped with them countless times on cid or shrooms or dxm pretty much everything. I thought this change in set would be the key factor to me having an enjoyable experience and was not about to let my fear of it get the best of me. So they come back and this time it's the 20extract. I put on some Sphongle just to set the mood and M and C take their hits. M is having a great time and says it feels like cid with different visuals. C says he doesn't really feel much at all. So its my turn. Confidently, I take the bowl, and pack a very small amount, inhale and hold for thirty seconds. Suddenly, time starts to freeze again and I know what's coming, I can't seem to put the bowl down and I KNOW I'M GOING BACK. The Deja Vu is overwhelming. I don't remember that really happened from this point but M says i screamed and whipped the bowl at him. I know that I screamed because I knew I was going back. Sure enough I am caught in the exact same trip with the layers of reality stacked on top of each other, peeling apart through the layers with time repeating further and further. Whilst peeling i hear this sound like paces being flipped in a book coinciding with each reality or dimension i'm peeled through.

I thought this part was really cool, I am ripping through screaming this sentence and it ended as "what the fuck did i do this time" and everything stopped. I felt like had been there before and I had. Time stopped long enough and suddenly I'm back in C's room but it's not over yet. M is saying "Calm down" then it starts over and I peel again then he says "calm down your" then it starts over and I peel further. At this point I know that I am in Salvia world. I chill out and remember, "yea this is really bizzare and uncomfortable but it ends" so each time I see reality start over I am just silent and just wait for this to end.

I can hear Divine Moments of Truth playing on the stereo and it grabs me and rapidly pulls me back to sanity. At this point M says I calmed down and just chilled. So time starts over again and again until the sentence forms as " calm down your just tripping really hard". The weird part is M really did say this.
I was aware that it was going to start over every time and I could see my friends but once I was calm I just watched time repeat itself and this experience became very profound. The peeling sensation stopped being so uncomfortable and just felt weird. Finally it stopped and I'm back in reality exactly at the moment the sentence completes. I proceed to tell my tale and was doing some really serious thinking about the nature of reality. This trip was so amazing to me. I get the feeling that this will happen every time I take Salvia. After the experience i smoked a couple bowls to calm myself down but I felt completely out of it for like 45 minutes

I can't really find away to connect these trips to my life in any way, but has anyone else ever experienced the same trip twice? Am I ultra-sensitive to this stuff? Why doesn't everyone find themselves transported to alternate realites and dimensions? Why does Salvia even exist? How can it make me perceive these things that don't make sense in the real world?

I am very confused but at the same time very interested in the effects of this plant and am determined to try it again and see if the same time loop continuum ensues and I think it will.
 
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>>has anyone else ever experienced the same trip twice? Am I ultra-sensitive to this stuff?>>

i've had similar trips, with time loops etc. and the two times i broke through, it was almost the same experience each time. i wrote trip reports for them (first breakthrough, second breakthrouugh) but i wasn't able to convey the experience fully. the trip reports for each are quite different but the experience was almost the same, it's just not something that goes well with words

>>At this point I know that I am in Salvia world. I chill out and remember, "yea this is really bizzare and uncomfortable but it ends">>

well if you were able to think that, then you were at least partly in the real universe. when im in salvia world i don't think, i just have an intense primal fear as my body (which in salvia world is more like my randomly changing 3d shape which i sometimes exist as) is being moved about chaotically from dimension to dimension

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p.s., about your sentence time loop, i can't remember my sentence but i do remember what i did to break out of the loop... i randomly shouted "THE CAT!" which made no sense but it broke me of the sentence loop. this caused the others in the room to first go 'wtf?' then laugh

while in the loop i felt so absurdly weird i couldn't help but laugh

i felt awe right after the peak when i was transported back to earth--nothing felt as real as the salvia-verse and i felt like i would be sucked back into the salvia continuum any moment because this was just another fake reality

. it's like on a star trek episode, captain sisko hears a auditory hallucination 'Dr so-and-so please report ward 402' and keeps hearing it. then he finds himself in a whitewashed room and a doctor is telling him to stop writing. what hes been writing is the story of his life. the dr tries to convince him its not real its just a story. star trek is trippy shit, with the Orb of Prophecy experiences being thinly masked psychedelic experiences
 
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qwe thank you for the response really cleared up some things

quote : while in the loop i felt so absurdly weird i couldn't help but laugh
i felt awe right after the peak when i was transported back to earth--nothing felt as real as the salvia-verse and i felt like i would be sucked back into the salvia continuum any moment because this was just another fake reality

its like you took the words right out of my mouth there, there was this extremely comical air in all of it like an elaborate prank was being played on
me, especially when everything stopped and i said "what the fuck is happening to me now".

once back in reality things seemed fake and fuzzy, i thought to myself if that could seem so real whose to say that this is and half expected to be sucked back into that place at any moment, i kept thinking what if this starts happening to me randomly...

i don't know if I thought or remembered the world its just that I could
hear divine moments of truth playing on the stereo and it reminded me and calmed me down.

have you had any breakthrough experiences following these? both times i've tried I've gotten no normal visuals or any connection with the real world just this crazy chaotic shit

i wouldn't say this was a bad trip because i was thrilled to actually experience this retarded madness

judging from your trip reports it seems like you understand the dimensions / layers on top of themselves phenomena
more than anyone else i've talked to but damn is it hard to actually put into words
 
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i wanted to add that some parts of my reality were integrated into the saliva-verse randomly but recognizably quite like a dream.
 
I had the same thing happen to me yesterday, its indescribable and horrifying at the same time I ended up blacking out several times while layers of space and time flipped past me in a psychedelic kaleidoscope or terror. Sounds and voices shot past me at a million miles an hour none of it made sense. I will just say that I was not ready for that in the least. I only smoked one huge bong rip of salvanora 5x. It took me a while (what felt like hours but only lasted 5-10) to realize what was going on. when I came to I was over the kitchen sink drinking water feverously and feeling like my head was hot. I can say is that it was much more intense then acid or mushrooms for me. It is something I couldn't begin to explain to someone who hasn't experienced it.
 
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outstanding! said:
I had the same thing happen to me yesterday, its indescribable and horrifying at the same time I ended up blacking out several times while layers of space and time flipped past me in a psychedelic kaleidoscope or terror. Sounds and voices shot past me at a million miles an hour none of it made sense. I will just say that I was not ready for that in the least. I only smoked one huge bong rip of salvanora 5x. It took me a while (what felt like hours but only lasted 5-10) to realize what was going on. when I came to I was over the kitchen sink drinking water feverously and feeling like my head was hot. I can say is that it was much more intense then acid or mushrooms for me. It is something I couldn't begin to explain to someone who hasn't experienced it.

wow thats very similar to mine lol, yea words will never do it justice.
 
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