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Sacha Baron Cohen is back and punking politicians again

The fact that they haven't yet means they won't.
that is just absolutely ridiculous logic.

our sun will, one day, die. nah, the fact that it hasn't yet means it won't...

we're all going to die one day! nah, the fact that i haven't yet means i won't...

do you realise how absolutely mad that sounds?

alasdair
 
Nonsense. Undercover cops break the law - or do things that would be illegal for ordinary citizens - all the time.

Thanks for the unneceesary comment. You have a habit of purposefully ignoring what someone is trying to say and consciously choosing to interpret something as you wish so that you can argue it. This is the definition of the term that you love to consistently throw out to me: disingenuous.

That's another lie. You're a straight-up troll.

This is obviously a prediction. You can disagree with my opinion, but there's no need throw around the L-word.
I know how these things work. I saw the desperation that was happening during the election in order to prevent Trump.
I'm not surprised in the slightest that the establishment institutions joined forces and weaponized themselves to wiretap and surveil Trump.

The thing is guys, the NSA already knows everything about you. If Trump was dirty with Russians, they've got the fucking evidence and they've had it since 2016 (or whenever this imaginary collusion happened).

Side note: I take this much more seriously than you, I know more about these cases and government in general, and I give thoughtful answers to most questions. I am not a troll. Stop calling me a troll. You are in fact trolling me by doing so, but tbh you do have a habit of projection.

17 accusers of sexual assault...

How many settlements or convictions when it came to sexual assault?
You'd think there would be quite a few if he was some super serious rapist, assaulter, pedo, sexual deviant etc etc etc etc
 
Jgrimez said:
17 accusers of sexual assault...

How are you this willing to turn a blind eye to Trump and not all the celebrities you routinely "out" as sex felons?

Imagine any man in the community with say 17 accusations of child sexual assault. Just any regular guy. I sure as fuck hope you wouldn't start trumpeting on about "convictions" and maybe start going, you know what, maybe at least just the 17th child was telling the truth.

Jgrimes said:
I know more about these cases and government in general, and I give thoughtful answers to most questions. I am not a troll. Stop calling me a troll.

It is impossible to tell whether you are being serious here.
 
What is a troll? Does it require the person doesn't entirely believe what they say but say anyway it to provoke a reaction?

If so, while I think jgrimez has said some stuff that borders on trolling sometimes, overall I don't think he's a troll. I think he probably believes most of what he says.

But, jgrimez, while I tend to think you're not a troll, and while I don't personally dislike you or anything (honestly im fairly ambivalent). I do think you have these arbitrary inconsistent standards of evidence that wind up making almost any evidence against trump not believable, while having almost no standards for evidence that is to his advantage. So long as you arbitrarily make the rules about what is real evidence and what isn't, arguing or debating with you in any meaningful way is impossible.
 
I disagree. For example we know for a fact that Clinton had classified information on her server. Nobody is denying this. People found out, everyone agrees, intelligence agencies.
Now I 've heard people argue that it doesn't matter, or that they were retroactively classified but that doesn't change the fact of the files on the server.
Now that should have put her in jail. So that's me asking why hasn't she been charged when we have solid evidence. The obvious answer is corruption.

With Trump Russia, the FBI has not even analyzed the servers of the DNC that they claim were hacked. So when people say "Russia hacked the DNC's servers" I will confidently say "you have no evidence".

I've faulted Trump before, and I've agreed with things that don't paint him in a nice light. So I'm not arbitrarily making rules about anything. In fact I do try my best and pride myself on not being hypocritical.
 
one of trump's core campaign promises was that he was going to lock her up immediately he was elected. he could have directed the ag to appoint a special prosecutor on january 21st. he's taken no action.

we're used to broken campaign promises with trump - why did he break this one?

alasdair
 
one of trump's core campaign promises was that he was going to lock her up immediately

Did he say immediately? Are you twisting words?

It would be nice for all the criminals in the government to be brought to justice, but tell me how that is possible when the FBI & DOJ have been colluding with the criminal you're trying to prosecute? They must clean house first which is what we're seeing within the FBI. Can't deny that almost all of the top brass in the FBI have been fired, stepped down or are under investigation. If the justice system was working properly then Trump wouldn't even need to go after Clinton.

he was elected. he could have directed the ag to appoint a special prosecutor on january 21st. he's taken no action.

What if he did but most people have no idea what's happening because there's no way the liberal media would honestly report on their queen in trouble?

Jeff Sessions Quietly Appointed a Prosecutor to Probe Trump’s Foes.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeff-...-foes-that-could-be-an-unprecedented-disaster

Judge Nap Breaks Down How Clintons, FISA, And The FBI Are Going to Come Crashing Down
https://truepundit.com/watch-judge-...-and-the-fbi-are-going-to-come-crashing-down/

Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced John Huber, the U.S. attorney in Utah, will be investigating Clinton along with the FBI and the Department of Justice for their role in spying on President Donald Trump during the 2016 election.

“The attorney general appoints the chief federal prosecutor for Utah to investigate three things,” Napolitano said.

“The exoneration of Mrs. Clinton before all the evidence was in. The exoneration of President Clinton and Secretary Clinton on Uranium One before all the evidence was in and the abuse of FISA by the FBI and the DOJ.”

Have you even heard of Huber? Why would they base this investigation in Huber's home state of Utah and not DC? Hmmm Jurisdiction, interference and obstruction.

Why are Hillary & Bill, who acquired massive wealth during their tenure in office, flying commercial airline Delta and not on private planes like they would be accustomed to? Is it possible that their assets have been frozen?

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we're used to broken campaign promises with trump - why did he break this one?

That's actually hilarious considering how much Trump has been focused on keeping his campaign promises. , especially compared to any other politician that I've listened to bullshit in recent memory. Definitely don't keep listening to the media that you have been, because if you are under the impression that Trump is not keeping his campaign promises then you have been misled or lied to. And don't give me examples of stuff that hasn't happened yet, but feel free to bring up examples where Trump has completely flip-flopped on any main campaign promise.
 
Did he say immediately? Are you twisting words?
lol. the fact that he hasn't done it yet means he won't :)

utter fail.

And don't give me examples of stuff that hasn't happened yet...
of course not - that would just prove you wrong :)

not for you, because you don't care, but for others reading:

Donald Trump says pledge to jail Hillary Clinton played 'great before the election' but now 'we don't care'
Here's Everything Donald Trump Promised to Do on 'Day One' of His Administration

utter fail.

alasdair
 
related reading: who is america?

who is america? is sasha baron cohen's new tv show. he's made a career of coaxing politicians and celebrities into awkwardly making buffoons of themselves.

is he duping people into saying things they would never normally say? or is he simply facilitating their revelation of real, disturbing beliefs?

it's fascinating, highly-entertaining and, at times, deeply disturbing tv...

alasdair
 
Failed Republican senate candidate Roy Moore is the latest target of Sacha Baron Cohen's new satirical TV show "Who is America?" Allegations of sexual misconduct against Moore, including claims he pursued women when they were in their teens, came to light ahead of the Alabama special election. In Sunday's episode, Moore sat down with Cohen, who was posing as his character Gen. Erran Morad, an anti-terror expert from Israel. Cohen tells Moore that Israel developed a machine used to detect pedophiles at schools and playgrounds.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/roy-mo...ection-test-who-is-america-sacha-baron-cohen/

 
Failed Republican senate candidate Roy Moore is the latest target of Sacha Baron Cohen's new satirical TV show "Who is America?" Allegations of sexual misconduct against Moore, including claims he pursued women when they were in their teens, came to light ahead of the Alabama special election. In Sunday's episode, Moore sat down with Cohen, who was posing as his character Gen. Erran Morad, an anti-terror expert from Israel. Cohen tells Moore that Israel developed a machine used to detect pedophiles at schools and playgrounds.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/roy-mo...ection-test-who-is-america-sacha-baron-cohen/


I heard about that, it sounded hilarious.
 
The roy moore interview is great - but the bit with the trump supporter guys trying to lure mexican paedophiles is one of the funniest things i've ever seen in a tv show.
So fucking good - it's nice to laugh at this dark shit for a change. It's therapeutic.
 
Both those scenes were brutal, I felt pretty sorry for the Mexican luring guys - how do you live with that. The rap scene was hilarious.

Borat videos are trending on YouTube now and it's pretty funny to see people saying "imagine how the liberals would respond to somebody trying to make this today!!"
 
Rap scene was fucking great, but the butt-ISIS attack was one of the stupidest and most incredible things I have ever seen. How in the fucks name do you let yourself do that?? =D
 
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