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Russo-Ukrainian War v. World War 3?

TripSitterNZ said:
every russian that flees russia is a coward and complict in allowing putin to rule. Cowards all of them. They should of done a uprising.
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welcome back!

you must be living in moscow about now, right? can you give us a report from on the ground there?

alasdair
 
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IF it was Russia who sabotaged the Nord Stream pipelines (that have been closed since the start of September), I suggest it's to show that he could also bomb the pipelines from Norway.

That WOULD be constituted as an act of war. I do not see the US sending nuclear weapons or even troops, but I can imagine a lot of F15s & F16s being supplied (the US is trying to sell of a lot of those second hand. It's maintenance that is key.

I like the way Jeffery Lewis judges Putin. He notes that President Putin enjoys his large homes, his collection of vintage watches, fine food and generally 'the good life'. So he can quit if he has to because it's almost certain that Nikolai Patrushev would replace him and Mr. Patrushev would ensure that Mr. Putin would not face any court, lose any of his wealth or otherwise be inconvenienced.

I note that VPNs like SurfShark have seen a 5400% increase in Russian VPN use. So conscription has seen a lot of Russians looking at the news from other nations - most especially news channels from non-aligned nations who support neither Russia nor The US/NATO. We HAVE begun to see very obvious propaganda that is designed to make it clear that while Russia might win a long, drawn out war, it might cost a huge number of lives. Russians will fight for the survival of their own nation, but they aren't quite as keen to die in a war that did not need to happen.
 
TripSitterNZ said:
I told you all putin did this cause of the fucking woke left agenda in the west.

www.aljazeera.com

Putin’s speech on annexation: What exactly did he say?

President Vladimir Putin announced that four occupied regions of Ukraine would formally be incorporated into Russia.
www.aljazeera.com www.aljazeera.com
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Psst the major countries in the west are all led by center right neoliberal governments. This "woke left agenda" is pure culture war trite, the capitalists that run our lives see us all as disposable sheep. One and the same the only identifying factors that matter to them is the size of your bank account.
 
Gonna be a crisp winter. A side of radiation and 3rd degree burns.

in NZ we are also in danger cause we part of five eyes. Dumbest shit ever to sign up to way to make us a target for nuclear strikes. We should of been neutral.

Once the nukes fly im will forever blame the PC wokests for unleashing putins nukes on us
 
Russian aircraft capable of carrying nuclear-tipped cruise missiles have been flying in unexpected places since February.

Russia now relies on China heavily and as I have previously said, China WILL take advantage of Russia. If Russia used a single tactical nuclear weapon, China might not be THAT concerned (in truth) but it would give them a splendid reason to Sanction Russia. Nations that Rely on Russia (like India) would see their own military significantly weakened... and I suspect Pakistan would take advantage of that. Cuba would also be in serious trouble.

So overall, it would be the US that would seem to gain the most - neck and neck with China. If anything, it's Russia that would lose the most.

But we are now in the midst of a media war. One has to find news sources from unaligned nations to get any kind of a balanced view. I would appear that most commentators are asking how long President Putin will last. Even the Russian military is now saying that it had to withdraw because Ukraine has 'significantly superiority in forces and means;.

I don't think this is just bad planning - I suggest that corruption within Russian armed forces is a serious issue. Tank drivers KNOW what range a given amount of fuel provides. While people say it's US weapons, Ukraine has captured more weapons from Russia than it has been given in aid.

At the end of the day, I do not believe that Ukrainian forces have ever crossed the Russian border nor do they intend to. If Russia simply withdraws (keeping Crimea) then they can do so. I'm sure trials for war crimes wouldn't occur (due to Russian law). But Putin knows if he does so, he's out. But it's looking increasingly like he's out anyway. Certainly Chinese sanctions WOULD lead to such an even so all in all, it's for China to work out how to profit from this mess.
 
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the use of nuclear weapons in ukraine is 100% certain now. The moblization is failing madly. The commanders on the frontlines are enraged at putin and calling him for to hurry the fuck up and nuke the ukrainians.
 
TripSitterNZ said:
the use of nuclear weapons in ukraine is 100% certain now. The moblization is failing madly. The commanders on the frontlines are enraged at putin and calling him for to hurry the fuck up and nuke the ukrainians.
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But it presumes that it would end the war. I do not think it will. It's just as likely to start a revolution in Russia. Amazing that in March Putin said nuclear weapons would only be used if Russia's existence were at risk.

It's nuclear brinksmanship as we saw in the 1960s BUT as in the 1960s, it is a proxy war on foreign soil.
 
Do you really think the rest of the world is going to just allow Russia to drop a nuke…no, that shit needs to be put to and end immediately, and Putin knows he uses a nuke on Ukrainian and he will have a bullet in his head within 48hr
 
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