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Russell Brand on Question Time

It's definitely just you ;)<3

But I do get what you're saying. It can come over as self-indulgent, poncey and pretentious to use "big words" as a matter of course. It can also come across as just not being thick and actually caring about what you are saying ;)

If somebody can't argue their case cos somebody uses "big words" then they have no bizniz debating anyway. Or, at the very least, need to up their game or stick to putting the world to rights over a few pints.

Yeah might have to get myself some of that "word of the day" toilet paper :p

"What if I had said, instead of "We shall fight on the beaches",
"Hostilities will be engaged with our adversary on the coastal perimeter"?" -Winston Churchill
 
Hehe. As Mr Churchill realised, it's all about knowing how and when to deploy which words to best convey your meaning and to take into account who you are addressing and for what purpose ;)

Words are great. Words are weapons. Why use a plastic knife when you could use a cut-throat razor?

I actually used to read dictionaries as a kid. Not that I retained much of it but I do <3 learning new words and using them wherever possible. And whenever appropriate.
 
Then why does he expend so much time and energy trying to convince the government to make "abstinence-only drug treatment" official policy thus foisting it on everybody whether it suits their needs or not?

As I've said several times now, I like the bloke - a lot - but he's so very wrong on this it cannot not be pointed out at every possible opportunity. He's just plain wrong. And if what you say is true he's also a hypocrite.

Abstinence-based recovery =/= 12 Step. I know you know that. I agree that attempting to enforce a policy of abstinence based recovery would be short-sighted and foolish, but at the same time unless i'm much mistaken, making it a blanket catch-all policy isn't his message. Clearly, the guy wants to encourage awareness of something that helped him in the hope that it'll help others, but he seems to recognise the complexity of the problem and I've never got the impression that he would advise one type of rehabilitation over all others in all cases. Perhaps I've mis-represented him in saying that, though - I'd be disappointed if so.

Obviously, abstinence has some extra pressure associated with it when you're one of the most famous people in the world and everyone is constantly watching you 24/7. I imagine that adds to its efficacy!


That is what Russell Brand often gets wrong.

Definitely agree, as much as I enjoy that kind of language... Not always appropriate.
 
He does use some fukkin horrid yoofspeak I must admit. Calling David Dimbleby "mate" on QT did tickle me though :D

He's mostly stopped making up "cute" words like "booky-wooky" and stuff though. He uses plenty "big words". Uses 'em well too. If you can get past his persona and understand a word he says anyway (I do believe the Sep's in particular have some difficulty with that in ;)).

That's interesting, did he used to do a lot of that, i.e. using/making up neologisms? I have read some of his stuff but if he comes on the box I change it.
 
That's interesting, did he used to do a lot of that, i.e. using/making up neologisms? I have read some of his stuff but if he comes on the box I change it.

Hah, yeah he did it in the early days of his radio show, and then over time he seemed to do it with a sort of self-referential irony, but i haven't noticed it more recently.
 
all I know about him, from my TV insider friends, is getting blow jobs (him, not me :() off soho TV company receptionists (female) in their office toilets. Make of that what you will.
 
Russell Brand: what I made of Morning Joe and Question Time

So what really happened behind the scenes when Russell Brand turned up with his mum to take part in Question Time? And what did he make of Boris?​

Russell Brand
The Guardian, Friday 28 June

More from acute awareness of Instant Karma's immediate sting than morality, I have learned to treat people apparently lacking power with cordiality. This means that when I arrived at the New York studios of Morning Joe, the gleaming, informal mid-morning MSNBC news analysis show, I was polite to everyone there.

I was surprised by the soundman's impatient intrusiveness and yet more surprised as I stood just off set, beside the faux-newsroom near the pseudo-researchers who appear on camera as pulsating set dressing, when the soundman yapped me to heel with the curt entitlement of Idi Amin's PA. In response I wandered calmly from the studio and into the corridor, where a passing group of holidaymakers were enjoying the NBC tour. Often when you encounter rudeness from the crew, it is an indication that the show is not running smoothly, perhaps that day, or maybe in general. When I landed in my chair, on camera, and was introduced to the show's hosts – a typical trident of blonde, brunette and affable chump – it became clear that, in spite of the show's stated left-leaning inclination, the frequency they were actually broadcasting was the shrill, white noise of dumb current affairs.

One of the things that's surprising when you go on telly a lot is that often the on-camera "talent" (yuck!) are perfectly amiable when you chat to them normally, but when the red light goes on they immediately transform into shark-eyed Stepford berks talking in a cadence you encounter nowhere else but TV-land – a meter that implies simultaneously carefree whimsy and stifled hysteria. There is usually a detachment from the content. "Coming up after the break, we'll be slicing my belly open and watching while smooth black eels loll out in a sinewy cascade of demented horror." This abstraction I think occurs through institutionalisation. If your function is to robotically report a pre-existing agenda, you needn't directly interface with the content. I was surprised when the Morning Joe clip "went viral" (I have parenthesised a sexist joke here: "Many of my casual transactions with daft blondes go viral – I put penicillin on me Frosties"; don't read this if you are offended by that sort of thing) because a lot of my promotional interviews or appearances on these kind of shows have the odd "cuckoo" ambience that defines this transient slice of pop cultural life. It's the unreal, sustained glitch in naturalism that makes this genre of TV disturbing to either watch or be on. The Lynchian subjugation of our humanity; warmth and humour, usurped by a sterile, pastel-coloured steel blade benignly thrust again and again into a grey brain.

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Why is our culture behaving like this? How has this become normal? It is by no means an exclusively American phenomenon, though wherever you encounter it, there is something American about it. Even on Question Time, which is as British as eating a pork pie out of Boudicca's vagina, on a Thursday, in the rain, there is an air of the unreal.

The episode of the much-loved political forum hosted by Sir David Dimbleby in which I participated was broadcast (not quite actually) live from the glistening Thamesside titty from which Boris Johnson presides over London life. Knowing that, in spite of its maternal architecture, I was in fact entering an orb of patriarchy, I went in mob-handed. Not with a tooled-up crew of present-day Krays, but with my mum and some of the people I work with. Normal, working British people. We were excited – Question Time, like Match of the Day or Corrie, is a potent piece of living heritage; as soon as you see its name the theme tune gatecrashes your brain, all chuffed with itself, jigging through your synapses like Bez.

We met "the team" and watch Ed Davey (LibDem; why are we surprised by their fluctuations when they can't even decide on a name?) finish makeup. I suppose we shouldn't be irked that all politicians wear makeup to go on television; it's obvious, but as a symbol it's undeniably apposite – the gentle, accepted cover-up.

Ed Davey, though, is nice enough, tissues down his collar, smartphone in hand, selfie requested and delivered. Tessa Jowell was there an' all.

She seemed pleasant and my mum liked her.

We'd been told in advance that Boris Johnson, mayor of London, had invited the panel for drinks in his office. I was allowed a plus one, so I took my mum. We were nervous in the lift – me, Ed Davey, Melanie Phillips, a production assistant and a couple of others. I tried to observe what was what and look for early signs of dominance, but everyone acts the same in elevators. Compliant, mouth-breathing anxiety; time, like the lift itself, suspended in a shaft. We disgorge on to the top floor and are card-scanned into the mayoral complex. Just an office really. Then we are led into BoJo's lair. He's in there, as you might imagine, kerfuffling around with some beverages, jugs and glasses all lined up on his boardroom table like a middle-management conference at the South Mimms Novotel. The view is startling: Tower Bridge is slapped across the window like it's perched on your hooter as a pair of novelty specs. Vistas like this induce megalomania. Staring at that while chewing a pencil, even Frank Spencer would morph into Hitler. Somehow, after a polite hello from Boris and a reference to the MSNBC clip, I end up being mother (which was weird, because my actual mother was there, so I don't know who she was being) and serve the drinks. A few people have wine, most have water, and I wind up chatting to Melanie Phillips.

Melanie is a columnist for the Daily Mail and is mostly known for her knee-jerk, right-wing, hang-em-high vitriol. In person, inconveniently, she is beautiful. Deep brown, soulful eyes, elegant features and a truthful, caring sincerity in her tone. It is surprising and bizarre, then, to see her contort on air into a taut, jabbing Gollum figure, untutored index finger fucking the audience in the face when they pipe up about Syria or whatever. Oddly, I still like her, regarding her opinions as an arbitrary appurtenance that she pops on in public, like a daft hat that says "Immigrants Out" on the brim. When the audience – who, incidentally, make all the best points – boo her, I think it a shame. The wall of condemnation is an audible confirmation that the world is a fearful and unloving place. Like most of us, Melanie just needs a cuddle. Fellow panellists Ed and Tessa are a couple of lovely labradors, one chocolate, one yellow, with wagging tails and wet noses, fetching the party line. Sir David is statesmanlike and twinkly. Only Boris concerns me. When I used to watch Have I Got News For You, which as a kid I was proud to watch, full stop, I loved it when Boris Johnson came on. I didn't know who he was or what he did, I didn't think about it, I just liked him. I liked his voice, his manner, his name, his vocabulary, his self-effacing charm, humour and, of course, his hair. He has catwalk hair. Vogue cover hair, Rumplestiltskin spun it out of straw, straight-out-of-bed, drop-dead, gold-thread hair. He was always at ease with Deayton, Merton and Hislop, equal to their wit and always gave a great account of himself. "This bloke is cool," I thought. As I grew up I found out that he was an old Etonian, bully-boy, Spectator-editing Tory.

"That's weird," I thought. While I was busy becoming a world-class junkie, the man from HIGNFY became mayor. People like Boris Johnson; I like the HIGNFY Boris. He is the most popular politician in the country. Well, not in the country, on the television. There is a difference. Most people, of course, haven't met him, they've seen him on the telly. When I met Boris in his office, the nucleus of his dominion, I glanced at his library. Among the Wodehouses and the Euripides there were, of course, fierce economic tomes, capitalist manuals, bibles of domination. Eye-to-eye, the bumbling bonhomie appeared to be a lacquer of likability over a living obelisk of corporate power.

It is on record that, in his capacity as mayor, Boris has held seven times as many meetings with bankers as with normal people (no, bankers aren't normal – when normal people steal money they are punished). For his first campaign, 77% of his funding came from the City; for his second, his funding was put through the Conservative party and therefore didn't have to be declared. We can assume this was not because the sourcing was more egalitarian.

Boris Johnson is the most dangerous politician in Britain, precisely because of his charm. The members of the Conservative party that are rallying to install him as leader are those to the right of David Cameron. If you thought the fringe on his head was lunatic, you should see the lunatic fringe that want him as leader. Those for whom Cameron is not Tory enough. "Offshore Dave", leader of a coalition for whom 14 of its 20 most prominent donors have links to companies with offshore holdings. The politicians who want to move the party and our country further to the right want Boris. And well they might: he is the consummate televisual politician. Funny and likable, even when he errs it's cute, like a shaved Winnie the Pooh accidentally eating all the honey.

In this age where politics is presented as entertainment, it's the most entertaining politicians who ascend.

As we all sit behind the desk and the theme tune begins to play, I regard the faces of my fellow panellists. Apprehensive, like me. In makeup, like me. Whenever we see David Cameron or Barack Obama on the box – knitted brows, index finger and thumb of dominant hand pinched in that contemporary rhetorical fist, powerful but not too powerful – they, in spite of what they're telling us, are always covering something up: their true faces


I like Russell Brand loads
 
The guy is a die hard WEst Ham Fan how could i dislike him . He even got Kate Perry to do this

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For that alone he is a legend in my books :)
 
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