Rush Limbaugh a HYPOCRITE? (Updated 7/07/05)

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Rush Limbaugh a HYPOCRITE?

HOW WILL LIMBAUGH 'SPIN' DRUG HABIT?
The Item (South Carolina)
Sat, 25 Oct 2003
K.D. Singleton

I wish that I could find a reason to feel sorry for radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh because of what is going on now in his life but as of this writing, I have not.

Feeling sorry, caring deeply, having compassion and helping fellow human beings who, for a variety of reasons, have fallen into bad luck or on bad times is the Christian thing to do.

To this point, my humanness, better known as my weakness, is getting in the way of what should be my ability to forgive those like Rush who have for so long shown no concern, sensitivity or care for others who like himself gave in to weaknesses or habits that became debilitating or self-destructive, whatever the reason.

I used to listen to Rush every day as I left work for lunch. He, I must admit, is one of those individuals whom you are drawn back to even if you do not agree with him. He is/was a "lightning rod" as many have described him.

Let me hasten to say that I never listened to Rush because I liked his show or agreed with him but because I wanted to be informed about what those who love him were attached to and excited about.

Many days, I would become so upset with Mr. Limbaugh's intolerance, indifference, insensitivity and open anger at those who could not break away from their "habits" or "pull themselves up by their own boot straps" that I would just turn off my radio.

Over the years, Mr. Limbaugh's intolerance for certain individuals who had fallen into poverty, developed addictive habits, i.e., drugs, alcohol, etc., was visceral, unrelenting and unforgiving. His favorite expression about these kinds of things was, "I don't get it."

Well, now it's my turn. I don't get it! How could someone like Rush preach to others about their vices while at the same time abusing prescription drugs himself? How can his 20 million-plus radio audience ever see him in the same light or believe him again? This question is, however, rhetorical because I am aware that there are those who, no matter what the case, will believe certain charismatic characters who have the skills to entrance their audiences, casting a spell over them that leads them blindly into their "make-believe worlds." Rush was/is this kind of person with countless converts in his flock. Many of these individuals would follow Rush no matter what he did.

The Enquirer, a tabloid newspaper that many of us question at times, was the first to expose Mr. Limbaugh's "extra radio ( Golden EIB Microphone ) affaire." A former housekeeper at his $30 million Palm Beach estate exposed him and outlined how she was involved in the dispensation of prescription drugs such as OxyContin and Hydrocodone to Rush.

Mr. Limbaugh's "secret" drug habit and allegedly illegal acquisition of these drugs speaks volumes to what lots of people feel in this country. If you are rich, famous and powerful, the law does not apply to you in the same way as it would to someone who happens to live on the wrong side of the tracks, is poor and politically benign.

One of the first things that Mr. Limbaugh did upon hearing that he was being investigated by the authorities in Florida was to retain the famous defense attorney Roy Black of Miami. This was a smart and wise move on his part but also it raised questions in my mind as to his guilt when he was asked about the charges after speaking recently to the National Broadcasters Association in Philadelphia. He said, "I did not know that I was being investigated but will cooperate fully with the authorities." If anyone is familiar with Rush, when last have you heard him, without contest or discussion, agree with anything. He is not this kind of personality! I will, however, give him credit for knowing when to "hold" and when to "fold."

Mr. Limbaugh has spoken out many times against the use of drugs on his shows and has suggested that drug users are "violating the law and should be convicted and sent up." I now wonder if he still feels this way since he could and should be "sent up" if found guilty.

We all know that the famous radio show host's chances of being convicted of drug charges, however, are about as real as finding beachfront property in the Sahara Desert. It is a sad fact that in America, money, power and political influence will get you out of just about anything and Rush has this trio of ingredients and much more.

Notice how he is framing his defense. He is coming out in major newspapers saying that he had checked himself into rehab drug centers at least twice before and after the current charges, he has voluntarily checked himself in again for a period of 30 days and is quoted as saying that he is taking "full responsibility for his problem."

Anyone who knows how the legal system operates is aware that if you get ahead of the game by doing what Rush is doing, there is more sympathy and, in his case, this will be multiplied many times over because of his power and influence. He is trying to demonstrate to the authorities that he is "taking charge" of his problem and is being proactive rather than reactive. I do not criticize Mr. Limbaugh's tactics but it just points up how some can get away with crimes while others have to spend years behind bars for the same thing. What kind of justice is this?

It has been my conviction for a long time that Rush and several others like him, have made a "religion" and "art form" out of bashing a certain segment of the American society, a behavior that has made them multimillionaires. I choose to call this kind of exercise "premeditated manipulation of the mind" and legal scamming of those who let others think for them. Rush is a genius at this and has a bank account to prove it.

I feel little sympathy for characters like Rush who preach morality from their "untouchable" platforms while themselves engaging in behaviors for which most of us would be imprisoned.

My next questions are these. Where are the Republican "moral cops" when you need them? Why is there no more local or national outcry about Rush's behavior from those who are so quick to condemn others who fall into similar situations in their lives?

One of Rush's favorite statements as he sat doing his daily broadcast was/is, "As I sit here holding this letter with my 'cigar-stained fingers' .. etc." ( This statement is designed to poke fun at those who are after the tobacco industry in this country. )

Mr. Limbaugh now has stains, not only on his fingers but on his character which turn hypocrisy into absurdity. It will be interesting to see how he will "spin" this for his converts so that they can continue to support his drug addiction, rich lifestyle and lucrative assets.

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PAINKILLER USE DOESN'T MEAN ADDICTION
Sun News (South Carolina)
Wed, 22 Oct 2003
Kathleen Parker

Say what you will about Rush Limbaugh, he brought life to the party. His admission now to drug "addiction" caused me to say to a friend, "I feel sorry for him." Why? "Because I feel sorry for anyone who suffers addiction."

If, in fact, he is an addict. The verdict is still out despite what the evidence suggests. Also, pain specialists are distressed that all the piling on following Limbaugh's admission of drug use may set pain management back 100 years.

First, there's a difference between physical dependence on drugs and addiction. If you use legal medications as prescribed, you're unlikely to become addicted.

Recent research shows that only 6 percent to 10 percent of all chronic pain patients on opioids become addicted. That's the same percentage as the general population that becomes addicted to alcohol or shopping or gambling. In other words, the risk for opioid addiction is no greater than the risk for other addictive behaviors and substances.

The key to avoiding addiction to pain medications such as OxyContin, the opioid Limbaugh was taking, is presence of pain, according to Joan Wentz, an assistant professor and specialist in pain management at Jewish Hospital College of Nursing and Allied Health in St. Louis. That is, if you have pain and treat it with opioids, you're unlikely to become addicted, though you may develop a physical dependence.

Dependence means simply that your body adjusts to the medication, and if you withdraw abruptly, you will suffer unpleasant symptoms such as palpitations and hallucinations.

Addiction, on the other hand, is defined as compulsive craving and uncontrolled use despite harm. Whether this definition characterizes Limbaugh's situation is unknown.

The number of pills he reportedly procured doesn't necessarily indicate addiction, Wentz says. He may have been in pain and, because of his body's adjustment, needed more medication to manage it.

Wentz and others in pain management worry that people who need medication now will fail to seek treatment for fear of addiction, and doctors may hesitate to prescribe it when needed.

In a recent bulletin to pain specialists, the American Pain Foundation charged the media with perpetuating "long-standing myths and misconceptions about pain management and pain medications" in its Limbaugh coverage.

"When properly used, pain medications rarely give a 'high' - they give relief. And, most important, they allow many people to resume their normal lives," said the bulletin.

The fact that Limbaugh could continue functioning in his career makes Wentz skeptical about his being an addict. As to whether he's a hypocrite, well, that's a tougher charge to dismiss. It's hard to swallow Limbaugh's punitive line for drug users when he tossed back OxyContin like M&Ms.

Not surprisingly, Rush's critics are delighting in his humiliation, though some have leavened their comments with sympathy for his obvious pain. Fans and colleagues, meanwhile, have circled the wagons, trying to draw a distinction between Rush's addiction to legal medications to treat pain and those who become addicted to illegal drugs merely to get high.

Sorry, but that doesn't wash.

Limbaugh's fall from grace ultimately may be a blessing not only for him, but also for people who suffer pain and those who succumb to addiction. The message in the bottle is this: Suffering pain is not heroic, and becoming an addict is not a crime.

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he tossed back OxyContin like M&Ms

cool he even knows how to eat them right, crush em up real good and let em melt under your tounge, not in your hand. I cant stand it when people waste em by eating them whole.
 
8( Yeah, right! Just because Limbaugh's drugs weren't purchased on a street corner, his addiction is somehow more legitimate than a crack addict?!? Sure there's a big difference between Limbaugh and a crack addict - Limbaugh won't get sent to jail because he's rich.

BTW Thirdeye, I love your Thompson quote!
 
UPDATE- OCT 07/2004

Court: Limbaugh's medical records properly seized - appeal denied

The Associated Press
Oct 7/2004

WEST PALM BEACH - A state appeals court ruled Wednesday that prosecutors did not violate Rush Limbaugh's privacy when they seized his medical records to investigate claims of illegal drug use.

Investigators raided the offices of Limbaugh's doctors last November seeking information on whether the conservative radio commentator tried to "doctor shop", the illegal practice of visiting several doctors to receive duplicate prescriptions of controlled painkillers.

Limbaugh, 53, has not been charged with a crime and the investigation had been at a standstill pending a decision on the medical records.

The court rejected Limbaugh's arguments that his privacy rights trumped investigators' power to seize his records, even with search warrants. Judges also said prosecutors didn't have to notify him of the warrants or give him an opportunity to challenge them.

"The state's authority to seize such records by a validly issued search warrant is not affected by any right of privacy in such records," a three-judge panel of the 4th District Court of Appeal ruled. Chief Judge Gary M. Farmer wrote the opinion and Judge Carol Y. Taylor concurred. Judge Melanie G. May concurred in part.

Limbaugh said he would fight the decision, which he said did not recognize the privacy rights afforded by Congress or the Florida Legislature.

"This was a fishing expedition from the outset to see if there was anything they could find to charge me with," Limbaugh said on his Wednesday afternoon radio show. "There was no doctor shopping but it was my contention all along that I shouldn't have to give up my right to privacy to prove my innocence. That's not the way it works in this country."

Limbaugh could ask all 12 members of the 4th District to rehear the case or he could appeal to the Florida Supreme Court.

Prosecutors began investigating Limbaugh two years ago after his former maid told them she sold Limbaugh "large quantities of hydrocodone, Oxycontin and other pharmaceutical drugs" for years. She provided investigators with e-mails and answering machine recordings to support her claims.

They went after Limbaugh's medical records after learning that he received about 2,000 painkillers, prescribed by four doctors in six months, at a pharmacy near his Palm Beach mansion.

Limbaugh admitted his addiction to pain medication last October, saying it stemmed from severe back pain. He took a five-week leave from his afternoon radio show to enter a rehabilitation program.

State Attorney Barry Krischer, a Democrat who's been accused by Limbaugh of having political motivations in the case, said the appellate ruling validates the investigation and will allow the case to move forward.

"This office did not violate any of Mr. Limbaugh's rights, constitutional or statutory, but to the contrary acted in accord with Florida law," Krischer said.

Limbaugh's attorney argued that investigators should have provided some notice they were going to seize records containing private information, but instead used search warrants and gave Limbaugh no chance to challenge the seizure.

"The Legislature said you can't do a wholesale seizure and hope to find evidence of a crime," attorney Roy Black said before the appellate court in April. "You'd have to stand privacy on its head."

But prosecutors insist that giving notice would have compromised their investigation. Prosecutor James Martz said the Legislature has protected law enforcement's ability to conduct criminal investigations.

At the April hearing, the appellate judges questioned prosecutors on their blanket seizure of records, asking why the search warrants were not more narrowly drafted to seize only those records relating to the doctor-shopping allegations.

Judge May partly dissented in the ruling, arguing the case should be returned to the trial court to "determine the relevancy of the records seized and to whom, if anyone, those records may be 'disclosed.'"

"The simple fact remains, our Legislature has mandated greater protection for a person's medical records than other types of property," May wrote.

Limbaugh said he found May's dissent encouraging and referred to her statement that the other two judges kept their "eyes wide shut" to some privacy concerns.

"She clearly recognized that the state cannot trump a patient's right to privacy in medical matters," Limbaugh said. "The issue here goes beyond me actually. It goes to the privacy of everyone's medical records."

Limbaugh has drawn support for his claims, including help from the liberal American Civil Liberties Union, which filed court papers supporting him. Randall Marshall, the legal director for the Florida ACLU, called the appellate decision disappointing and said it threatens the privacy rights of all Floridians.

"If this opinion stands, law enforcement can seize the medical records," Marshall said. "And you would never have an opportunity to try and limit the information that police can go through."

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Yeah, right! Just because Limbaugh's drugs weren't purchased on a street corner, his addiction is somehow more legitimate than a crack addict?!? Sure there's a big difference between Limbaugh and a crack addict - Limbaugh won't get sent to jail because he's rich.

I'm not sure about this one. When you (i.e.) start IV'ing Heroin, you know there's a huge change you'll get addicted. So If you do get addicted, your fully responsible.
Rush probably was already addicted when he started doing illegal stuff (obtaining Rx drugs without a prescription), so there is a difference.

The thing is, he should not have been so tough on other Rx addicts in his radio show. Especially not in the months in which he already was an addict. In my opinion, this is the really immoral part of his behaviour.

And I don't know if he will avoid prison by just being rich. If he doesn't get punished, it'll be mainly because he knows how to act to make his kind of people feel sympathy for an addict. And let's be fair: if you have this kind of knowledge, why *wouldn't* you use it just to be locked away for a while.
 
what a foul-assed hypocrite- he even went to the aclu (a LIBERAL organization) w/ his problem, after making a career out of bashing liberals and everyone else who questioned all of his bullshit right wing ideologies. ok- in any other situation, if an individual is known to possess drugs and law enforcement has a warrant, they are not required by any circumstances to notify parties involved in said warrant in advance before executing it. that's like telling a crack dealer an hour before a search warrant is served that he will be served w/ a search warrant. huh????!!!! why does rich prick get an exception? rhetorical, i digress :) he is a douche, for a lack of a better word, and a piece of shit w/ no true integrity or convictions.
 
Update

Limbaugh loses fight over MD records
Ending a legal battle, a judge turned over some of conservative talk-show host Rush Limbaugh's medical records to prosecutors looking into allegations of prescription drug abuse.

BY SUSAN SPENCER-WENDEL, Palm Beach Post
July 7, 2005

WEST PALM BEACH - A judge handed some of Rush Limbaugh's medical records to prosecutors Wednesday in a blunt ending to the conservative talk-show king's battle to keep his medical records private and out of their hands.

Palm Beach County Circuit Judge Thomas Barkdull III also returned a thicker stack of records to Limbaugh's lawyer, Roy Black, at a brief hearing in open court.

Barkdull divvied up the records, deciding which would be returned to Limbaugh and which would be forwarded to Assistant State Attorney James Martz for use in the criminal investigation of Limbaugh.

Black's stack was visibly thicker than Martz's.

''Mine's bigger than yours,'' Black quipped to Martz before leaving court.

''It's not the size that matters,'' Martz retorted.

The brief handoff ended Limbaugh's string of losses in Florida courts over his claim that the records' seizure violated his privacy rights.

Black reviewed the files later Wednesday and issued a statement saying ''most'' of Limbaugh's records had been returned to him.

''This proves our point that the state's wholesale seizure of Mr. Limbaugh's medical records was improper,'' Black wrote.

Limbaugh, 54, of Palm Beach, has not been charged with any crime. He's been a target of investigators since his former housekeeper told the state attorney's office a story of his rampant prescription drug abuse.

Investigators got search warrants and seized records from Limbaugh's doctor offices, shortly after Limbaugh's public admission he was addicted.

The warrants detailed the housekeeper's claims and alleged possible doctor-shopping, or seeking duplicate prescriptions from doctors. That felony has almost never been prosecuted in the county.

Attached to the warrants as evidence was a list of prescription drugs from one pharmacy in Palm Beach detailing Limbaugh's usage. Large amounts of commonly abused painkillers were on the list, but most of the prescriptions were written by one doctor.

Black told reporters that media accounts have distorted the amount of drugs on that list, adding that Limbaugh followed the prescribed amount.

Limbaugh made no comment on his radio show.

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2000 pills in 6 months, 4 months, 2 months.... 9000 total.. 18000 total... 12000 total...40,000+ one source even said ...100,000... Gawd, what? These must be the anti tobacco people with their second hand smoke death numbers covering Rush's case.

Go read the f'ing indictment.

The prescribing was over 18 months, and its in fairly trivial amounts, and almost all of it is of the vicodin class of drug, and other than being slightly over the reccommended doses for a few of those (because of tylenol content), the doses of these aren't "shocking or out of porportion" in any way for a back pain problem.
He may or may not have asked his housekeeper for drugs, and I frankly don't care if he did because that isn't what they are going after him for... If they want to charge him with that, they should charge him with that. But trying to hype this story into something it isn't is just wrong. When I read the initial reports they were pretty shocking, one claimed "he was using thousands of these a month" more than 40,000 pills in all! Then I happened to read the indictment on one of those celebrity exposed sites some radical leftist sent me to. I did the math, and while the doses of vicodin and lortab were at the high range of reasonable, I've known plenty of doctors to do the same. I was totally blown away by the lack of anything substantial to it. I couldn't tell you if he was seeing 2 of these guys at once, or even 3 at once, but I can tell you what it was like when I was searching for pain management...

I would go to a doc, the doc would either do nothing or the equivalent of nothing "throw some expensive cox-2 drug at me" or ibuprofen and a muscle relaxer and/or write me out a token enough amount of vicodin/lortab/darvocet to get me out of the door but not enough to treat me for an entire month around the clock. (Usually 4-10 days worth, so I would have to keep coming back..very annoying, very expensive). I was constrained by poverty from being able to afford to go to several docs at once to get it managed and stay working then. Its still a sore spot, and I would love to break those doctors knee caps with a louisville slugger and then talk to them about pain management, just so we could have a common frame of reference for the discussion. As I see it, the only difference between Rush & myself is the means to go get a 2nd & possibly a 3rd opinion. For myself, I missed a lot of work, it compounded the problem, but the problem got to where I wasn't going to be working anyway, and it took me years to get the kind of care I truly needed. If I was in Rush's shoes & had the same type of problem and his docs were anything like the more than 20 I have seen over the past 5 years - he did exactly what I would have done to stay working (money pending).

Don't be shocked if a jury lets him go.
What is in the press and what is in the indictment are highly disparate. And be very scared if what they present is enough to secure a conviction, because anyone needing that type of pain care is likely to do the same thing if they have the means, doctors simply don't manage this problem very well for those who have 24/7 pain problems, and the dissatisfied patient going from doctor to doctor looking for help, desperate to end their suffering is pretty damn common.
 
Interesting. As much as I detest Rush's talk show, I take no pleasure in seeing anyone raked over the coals for something like that.

I had hoped this case would open a lot of peoples' eyes regarding the war on pain patients and doctors, and an acquital and the publicizing of the reasons for it could help to do that.

Some state senator in MA is trying to ban Oxycontin outright in that state! His party affiliation? Democrat. Clinton, Dean and other Democrats have been vocal opponents of any easing up of the War on Drug( user)s. The "nanny state" is the dark side of the Democrat party, IMO. The mindlessness of it beggars belief. Who, after honest appraisal, does not see the awesome destructiveness that the WoD causes? Why are there almost no politicians to come forth with plans for legalization and sensible regulation? In whose name are nations warring against their own people? Do the politicians think people risk everything just because they're bad and deserve to be thrown in jail or be fined into poverty? Will Rush have anything to say about that if he's acquited??
 
anthropod said:
Some state senator in MA is trying to ban Oxycontin outright in that state! His party affiliation? Democrat. Clinton, Dean and other Democrats have been vocal opponents of any easing up of the War on Drug( user)s. The "nanny state" is the dark side of the Democrat party, IMO.

both parties love the war on drugs.. Bush is the one who wanted the supreme court to rule on medical pot so it's not like the democrats are the only ones who don't want you to use drugs. and as far as a "nanny state" i'd much rather have a nurturant nanny than the "strict father" state that the republicans run
 
Originally posted by frizzantik
i'd much rather have a nurturant nanny than the "strict father" state that the republicans run


Can't argue with you there. I always vote Democrat but it seldom does any good, obviously.
I can't bring myself to vote Libertarian, as lately that's essentially a vote for the GOP, and besides, for all their good intentions, letting the corporations run totally amok is the fast road to hell. Best thing to do about the WoD problem is just to continue to try to educate people of all political persuasions, I guess. Neil Boortz, another radio talk show host that's half-nuts but not nearly as bad as Rush, claims that in half an hour he can persuade any rational person of the lunacy of prohibition. At least he's correct about that. It's a matter of countering the ONDCP and "Partnership for a drug-free America" propaganda and all the rest of the WoD noise machine.
 
The way I see it, Rush is like an actor. One who is paid well, similar in nature to the wrestlers of the WWF. Or rather this is what he/his show has turned into. People in this country like entertainment. Some fanatacists take it seriously...

He caters to a specific audience... On a similar note, many people know Dubya is a stone cold liar but they still love him. George Bush Jr. talked long shit about Kerry behind a 'supposedly' strong military platform when he in reality was the absentee soldier, representing most of what Kerry was only 'accussed' of. Much like Rush and his anti-drug facade that he has painted for the people.

For many it is an act and I am beginning to question if Rush really believes in half of the shit that he regurgitates.

Hypocrisy capitalizing on fanatacism. He's like a political televangelist. Like a religion, they follow in droves...

He is going to walk but he should really lighten up on the anti-drug rhetoric so as not to insult anyone's intelligence. It will bee nearly impossible for him to clean it up, so I doubt he will even try.

His average follower is so braindead/brainwashed that he could come out with the truth about how he (really feels) and not lose much as far as 'ratings' are concerned. A majority of Americans are idiots, so he is just following the money.

I have actually taken the time to read one of his books as excruciatingly difficult as it was. He just spews a bunch of nonsense; everything beeing the complete opposite of what the stereotypical liberal/democrat is 'supposed' to symbolize.

He probably gets high as fuck and laughs all the way to the bank. He knows that with the controversy he has created, he can make his next book a little smaller in volume, not put nearly as much effort into it and sell it for a little bit more.

What does he care, hes a hardcore capitalist who makes a living pushing peoples buttons...

The entertainment that he provides to his cult overrides any lacking in credibility.
 
Rush Limbaugh is a fucking fool and I only wish he would get punished like a normal citizen. I would like to see him withdrawl in jail like I did!

-weez
 
You know what would be really good? If Rush and his followers came out more empathetic towards drug users, and realized that confining people to consume drugs discretly in shame isn't gonna help anyone.

But then again, I really can't see that happening.
 
anthropod said:
I can't bring myself to vote Libertarian, as lately that's essentially a vote for the GOP, and besides, for all their good intentions, letting the corporations run totally amok is the fast road to hell.
Good intentions?! ;)
 
fruitfly said:
Good intentions?! ;)

Good intentions of Libertarians, that is. :p


Originally posted by CYCOactive
What does he care, hes a hardcore capitalist who makes a living pushing peoples buttons...

Bingo. Hit the nail on the head.


Honestly, I feel Limbaugh has had a more corrosive effect on American culture than anyone else in recent memory. He's the malignant underbelly of Reaganism, the '80s gone rancid.
 
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