Restless legs help.

[riora69]

in my case, RLS and akithisia usually go away after 20 days. No matter how harsh the withdrawal.

 

[paltatomate]

Gabapentin and also benzodiazepines

So far I have my all-round-solution, which is clona. I don't like to take it at nights because then I wake up groggy, but I do if my legs won't let me sleep. I'm still trying to find a pattern in when my RLS gets worse. Because like @Thatgirlnot they seem to have a mind and mood of their own. Have been suffering from RLS since I was about 10, and doctors say it's part of PTSD, meaning there's no organic cause for it and therefore no amount of supplements or diets can help).

 

[Neuroborean]

Does anyone have anything they can share that helps with restless legs please as I’m at the point where I’d happily chop them off
I’m spending my nights aching and thrashing my legs around and it’s driving my crazy.
I’m over. 3 weeks into a withdrawal from Dhydrocodeine where I was taking maybe 10 a day.
I got thought the shits, shakes, sweats, shivers, anxious like I wanted to be dead stuff but this is not shifting.
I’ve had 11md zopiclone to try help me sleep and some melatonin but I still can’t sleep. I can take more but I don’t want to as I want to get off these too but was staggering stopping.
Is there anything I can do? I’ve taken magnesium and I know about quinine but now available right now. I’ve stretched, walked etc but the little shits are still there with a mind of their own
Anything else I can try? Thanks

L-dopa, mucuna pruriens extract, couple capsules, not just one, if only 15%....

L-Dopa Improves Restless Legs Syndrome and Periodic Limb Movements in Sleep But Not Attention-Deficit-Hyperactivity Disorder in a Double-blind Trial in Children

In a previous open-label study, dopaminergic agents improved Restless Legs Syndrome (RLS) and Periodic Limb Movements in Sleep (PLMS), as well as Attention-Deficit-Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) in children with both disorders. We therefore conducted a ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

L-dopa therapy of uremic and idiopathic restless legs syndrome: a double-blind, crossover trial - PubMed

We report the effects of a single bedtime dose of L-dopa 100-200 mg on sleep quality, frequency of periodic leg movements (PLM) and daily living in patients with idiopathic and uremic restless legs syndrome (RLS). Seventeen patients with idiopathic and 11 with uremic (on continuous hemodialysis)...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Neuroborean]

yeah, I would also vouch for Black Seed Oil, it's so effective in so many things, specially opioid withdrawal and inflammation issues.
In anycase it's a must in the cabinet, but perhaps mucuna it's more specific for this dopamine deficiency crap (RLS, lethargy, restlessnes..). I didn't have with me any BSO this time (kratom withdrawal) and ashwagandha, mucuna and Huperzine A have made my days so much better.
My hypothesis lately is that kratom withdrawal has a very specific issue: inflammatory glutamate release on the first days along with choline deficiency. That's why Huperzine A helps a lot to feel normal.

I talk about this all the time but black seed oil can help a lot with opioid withdrawal, it tickles the mu-opioid receptor. There's also kratom as an option, you'd be potentially trading addictions but maybe not, I mean it's much lighter than a pharm opioid.

Magnesium glycinate, Flexeril and Hydroxizine can help. Flexeril is a muscle relaxer, Hydroxizine is similar to Diphenhydramine (Benadryl), but much stronger and I don't believe has the side effect of restless legs that DPH has. The shit will knock you out unbelievably hard though. It's like, a "benzo alternative" in a sense. I took it for a little while, it was alright. Relaxing but ultimately extremely sedative. But seriously, consider the black seed oil.

 

[Dreamflyer]

I've heard that magnesium helps. Also, when I sort of twist my legs together and clench them up a bit, sometimes it relieves the sensation enough that I can fall asleep. Wiggling them helps of course, but you can't very well get to sleep when you're in constant motion!

Benadryl (diphenhydramine) and other first-generation antihistamines give me horrible RLS, so try to avoid them at all costs.

Feel better my friend,
Dreamflyer

 

[eat_pasta]

I used Hyland's Restful Legs PM. Homeopathic acacia gum with a number of ingredients. It seemed to help. Best of luck.

 

[Cheri3661]

What's always helped me is getting up and doing some squats sets of 30 and some lunges for good measure. A lot of ************* ain't willing to get up and do anything but I found that physical activity has always helped me sleep like a baby.

 

[Deacon Hitchbight]

I had never experienced RLS until I'd started using pod tea for lumbar discomfort: the condition is far more disturbing than the name suggests. As an habitual MTB rider, I often use powdered Brugmansia leaf( ~300mg) to stop my nose fountain when rolling in cold weather, usually included in a tea or breakfast infusion. During my last three AM battle with RLS, I ignited a small amount of the leaf in a pipe and inhaled a hefty lungfull of the bitter, yellowish smoke; within five minutes the spinal anxiety had all but vanished and I was able to sleep. I'm interested to know if this procedure has provided anyone else with relief.

Always use caution when dealing with tropane alkaloids.

Your mileage may vary.

 

[sHR00m]

I had some success using low dosed l-dopa which is also a therapy for RLS. My RLS was a side effect caused by antipsychotics but it still worked.

 

[neversickanymore]

Gabapentin is a life saver for me when it comes to restless legs. Id suggest hitting your doctor up for that. Works even better then z drugs or benzzos imo

The OP of this thread is no longer going through this, but for others facing the same thing.. i’d certainly give Gabapentin a try.

You may also try a dopamine precursor taken right before exercise.

Exercise both stimulates neurotransmitter production and regulation. This can help with the opiate withdrawal RLS and can seriously expedite PAWS symptoms.

 

[fairnymph]

Topical magnesium ideally from a hot bath with 3+ pounds of Epsom and/or magnesium chloride bath salts, is far more effective for muscle relaxation because magnesium is MUCH more bioavailable topically rather than orally.

Otherwise, I find gabapentin and diazepam the most useful. And as noted exercise if you can do it is hugely helpful.

 

[Conky]

Certain forms of oral magnesium have high bioavailability such as magnesium glycinate/bisgylycinate

In any case, 2nd generation dopamine agonists such as pramipexole and ropinirole are considered 1st line treatments for chronic debilitating RLS

But you shouldn't take those drugs long term unless you're fully aware of the potential unwanted effects and risks

 

[opallove13]

Thanks will definitely look into it. I’ve just had another sleeping tablet and a banana but I can’t keep taking these and I’m burning through my supply and fear going into withdrawal from them if I do.
How long does it usually take to get better and the restless legs stop. Am I making it worse with the Zopiclone. I’ve been on sleep meds for years and can take a lot when I have them in plentiful supply, but equally when I’m down to a few a 7.5mg will help me grab a few hours. I think it’s Psychosomatic at this point. I don’t think it’s the tablets, more the action of taking one if that makes sense. Like if I don’t have one I know I won’t sleep, having one is therefore crucial. I just don’t think I can start getting off the sleepers until the restless legs go away.

Thanks for reading my early hours, no sleep rambling.

You require Iron supplements. I get mine from the pharmacist. 100 mg/ pill. Two of them take away RLS in 45 mins flat . I have used this method faithfully.

 

[aokorn]

I used to take biperiden (Akineton) to counteract the side effects of fluphenazine, which I was taking for my acute schizophrenia. I soon found that taking biperiden in higher doses than prescribed caused euphoric feelings and I abused it for about a year.

Soon it started to cause me RLS. And quite severely. By stopping taking biperiden in higher doses, the condition soon returned to normal.