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restless leg syndrome due to heroin wds

eireann

eireann

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hi i recently detoxed from heroin i was an addict 5yrs and always found rls or restless leg syndrome
the most painful and annoyn of the wds does anyone no how wds cause this i c ppl who have
never done any drugs get restless leg syndrome i cudnt imagen liven wit it for life
 
I've had RLS all my life and it's occasionally been exacerbated by opioid withdrawals.

I don't think medical science really has much of a clue about RLS, however in the last few years the drugs companies have been paying more attention to it.

Treatments include exercise (but fatigue can make symptoms worse), iron supplements, dopamine agonists, opioids and cannabinoids. Sufferers (inc me) also sometimes use alcohol. From personal experience opioids seem best, but come with their own problems!


It's a fucking nightmare to have...


EDIT: Oh, almost forgot to mention ORGASM usually buys 15-20 minutes of alleviation, enough to get to sleep. It's theorised this operates through the dopamine system.
 
That's the reason they call it 'Kicking the habit'

I've experienced this on a 3 day cluck from Heroin, I did it cold with no medication to help me. On my own, no money, no phone as it'd been stolen, and no buzzer so I couldn't hear my friends calling on me. Lying in bed, legs kicking out, to the point of eventually banging the mattress in frustration. Then, after missing the chemist and two days into a meth (and H ) cluck, my legs were doing it again, I had no control over them, it looked like I was a baby having a tantrum. To be honest, the meth cluck was worse than the H one, I had been warned, but you never believe it until you experience it yourself. Now, every so often when i'm trying to get to sleep, out of nowhere my legs will kick out so it's still with me. I don't know why it's always the legs that seem to suffer when the opiate receptors are crying out.
 
Feeling such an experience now.
Apparently - and on good authority - Magnesium Phosphate is brilliant for RLS.
 
orgasm doesnt work for gear wds......u leak body fluid i pitty u haven it the whole time knock. the one ting i
thanked god for comin off gear was the day i woke up wit no rls i finally got a proper nite sleep i cudnt live
wit rls fulltime...fairplay to u im scard after rls all i use to have 18hrs to get a bag or my legs wud kick in
i cud cope wit comin sweatn hot and cold. pissn the runs insomnia anxiety everyting cept d rls
4months later and mentaly im still not bk to myself......gear it really is the devils dandruff
 
eireann said:
orgasm doesnt work for gear wds......u leak body fluid i pitty u haven it the whole time knock. the one ting i
thanked god for comin off gear was the day i woke up wit no rls i finally got a proper nite sleep i cudnt live
wit rls fulltime...fairplay to u im scard after rls all i use to have 18hrs to get a bag or my legs wud kick in
i cud cope wit comin sweatn hot and cold. pissn the runs insomnia anxiety everyting cept d rls
4months later and mentaly im still not bk to myself......gear it really is the devils dandruff
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Although I've had it as long as I can remember, it's not every single night, thank fuck, but it's not far off.

I think I've been self-medicating since I was a teenager. So it's just another of those things that druggies take drugs to deal with... My ex used to get fucked off with me writhing about in bed with it. I would get up and get (more) pissed to guarantee sleep, then come back to bed an hour or two later. Not a great way to spend your nights.
 
Nice replies, EADD. I'mma move this over to OD, there'll be many a restless leg sufferer in there willing to chip in.

EADD -> OD
 
haha the smack of reality is of course the worst im talkn about the 1st week of wds
cherrycolouredfunk said:
You're made of strong stuff if you can cope with the sweats, hot and cold flushes, runs, insomnia, anxiety, sudden smack in the face of reality! I'd happily take restless legs over all of that any day!
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Is it likely that restless legs / limbs might occur as the sole symptom of acute opiate withdrawal?

I had been drinking poppy pod tea every second or third night for a couple of weeks, then I stopped. After a few days I suffered quite bad RLS. This has persisted for over a week, now keeping me awake all night. I lie in bed tossing and turning and cursing. Eventually I sleep from exhaustion.

But I do not have any of the other symptoms I've had, or would expect, from opioid withdrawals. I got a runny nose on the three or four occasions I stopped after an o-desmethyltramadol binge. Taking more poppy pod tea does not completely relieve the restlessness. It reduces the severity a good bit though, and the high gives me blissful distraction so I can get some sleep.

The question is further complicated by the following factors: I have had RLS since I was a child (i.e. 30 years+). This last week they are the worst it's ever been. I've only recently (6 months) used opioids with any regularity. I have been taking fluoxetine for a month, so I wonder if that could be related. Also I have been using crutches for six weeks due to a broken foot so my muscle usage has been radically different. Perhaps fatigue or conversely lack of exercise could be involved?
 
knockando said:
Is it likely that restless legs / limbs might occur as the sole symptom of acute opiate withdrawal?

I had been drinking poppy pod tea every second or third night for a couple of weeks, then I stopped. After a few days I suffered quite bad RLS. This has persisted for over a week, now keeping me awake all night. I lie in bed tossing and turning and cursing. Eventually I sleep from exhaustion.

But I do not have any of the other symptoms I've had, or would expect, from opioid withdrawals. I got a runny nose on the three or four occasions I stopped after an o-desmethyltramadol binge. Taking more poppy pod tea does not completely relieve the restlessness. It reduces the severity a good bit though, and the high gives me blissful distraction so I can get some sleep.

The question is further complicated by the following factors: I have had RLS since I was a child (i.e. 30 years+). This last week they are the worst it's ever been. I've only recently (6 months) used opioids with any regularity. I have been taking fluoxetine for a month, so I wonder if that could be related. Also I have been using crutches for six weeks due to a broken foot so my muscle usage has been radically different. Perhaps fatigue or conversely lack of exercise could be involved?
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wow stop drinkin d tea dats what happend to me before i got completely strung out at d start i just got rls and didnt no y my frnd had to tell me i was strung haha
 
eireann said:
wow stop drinkin d tea dats what happend to me before i got completely strung out at d start i just got rls and didnt no y my frnd had to tell me i was strung haha
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Right, that's fucking annoying! Too late to stop, I've drunk tea tonight and I will drink it again tomorrow as I have to sleep and be on good form the next two days as my future depends on it! Bah!
 
benzos work great if its RLS from opi use for me. stop me from moving at higher doses [drowsy doses] so i can sleep in wd. might only be worthwhile if u dont really have a tolerance for em tho, cuz its hard to take enuf for that once u do.
 
I get that from sitting down and having a coffee. Half the time I don't even notice it (I assume half the time...). Why is it such a bitch?
 
I have years and years of experience with RLS. I'm still trying to find appropriate treatment for it. I'm on methadone currently and am thinking about making the move to suboxone to control it. I went through all the "new" drugs, like Requip, and all the other Parkinson's drugs that have just been reduced in dosage and repackaged. They actually made it worse for me. As far as getting rid of them during WD, there are three things I can recommend. First, if you have access to a hot tub, get ready to sit in that thing for as long as you can stand it. It does WONDERS for this. A hot bath is good too. A shower is not the best, but better than nothing. Second, an NMDA antagonist. You can take a fairly low dosage of DXM (maybe first plateau but usually lower) and this will help greatly. Third, gabapentin or lyrica seems to work well for some people. This one you'll have to get a prescription for, but it's not a recreational drug at all, and is usually fairly easy to get if you ask for it.

So, my first move would be to either get if your bath or if you or someone you know has a hot tub, get there stat and take some DXM. You'll be forgetting about RLS and thinking about the sweats, diarrhea, anxiety, chills, etc.. in no time at all!
 
^^
Dextro-methadone ie an NMDA antagonist, and many methadone mixes in the US are racemix, and contain some dextro, and some levro. Like DXM the levro is the opiate receptor hand.
 
when i take benzos for rls durin wds it just moved the pain to my arms...which is just as bad luckily for ppl going tru wds it goes away imagen have it for life like some ppl der is no cure for it.........dey say take iron tabs for it....yeah rite when i came off heroin my doc gave me 30motillium 30imodium 30ponston 30zimovane 7.5mg and 15d-10s before i went to dat doc another doc gave me 5x 1mg xanax and 5x 30mg of dalmane the reason i got so little of xanax n dalmane was becoz dat doc was an out of hrs k-doc d only ting dat help wer d zimovane outside of ireland der called zipoclone
 
I have had RLS for years. The one thing that helps me some is yoga, or any type of good leg stretching, and I mean nice long periods of leg stretch's... Hold it for minutes not seconds. It also seems to help with the insomnia from opioid W/Ds but not much. I don't think anything really helps with insomnia from opioid W/Ds brutal
 
i take benadryl if i cant sleep. anti histamines are good for that, but if u use em a lot, they stop working.
i used to use seroquel but i took it too much at too high a dose [to acheive sleep] and wound up feeling very flat all the time, that shit really fucks with you. i hate it now. still take it in desperate sleep times but i really try to avoid it. after i run out im never getting that script refilled
 
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