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Requesting Help with my medications for chronic pain

littlebucks912

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I've been prescribed pain meds for about 12 years and have had many diferrent combinations to manage my chronic pain. I have had a cervical spinal fusion and degenerative disk disease that is causing other disks to become herniated. I just moved to a new state and they restrict immediate release pills to 75 a month and i'm used to getting 180. Currently i'm on roxicodone 15mg 2-3 times daily for breakthrough and opana 40 mg Extended release twice a day for my chronic pain. The oxycodone helps but they upped the dosage on opana from 20 to 40mg and i feel no benefit at all even if I take more than one...same thing that happened when they placed me on nucynta 100mg er and upped it to 150mg i felt nothing at all. I go back to the doctor next week for an epidural and medication refills....can someone suggest an Extended Relief pill that works better or should I get fentanyl patches which is what they said they may do if the opana doesn't help. People on here (im new to this site) seem to talk so good about opana and how strong it is but 15 mg oxy makes me feel alot better. Please give advice on what i should do im kinda stressed out being in pain all the time... thank you.
 
the fentanyl patches would definitely be an option.. they are very strong, and work like a charm. Also opana is supposed to be one of the stronger opiates..ive used them for recreational purposes though, so i wouldnt be able to comment on the pain relief aspect of it. Another ER (Extended Release) pill you could try is an oxycodone ER, i hear a lot of people say that works better at lower doses than opana at higher doses. Its all about personal taste, opana may work better for me than oxy, but may be the opposite for you.
 
You could try inquiring about levorphanol, it's not an ER med techincally, so I don't know if that might be an issue, but it comes in 2 and 4mg strengths (2mg~30mg MS~20mg oxy). Duration seems to be very subjective, but usually last around 8 hours. It's also an NMDA-antagonist, so will help with tolerance itself and will also be very good with nerve pain.

I'm very curious about this particular substance myself.

Fentanyl is an option as well, but it will make most other things completely useless and can very easily skyrocket your tolerance quickly. One good thing about them though is that transdermally, unlike with most drugs, it has an extremely high bioavailability and you get 92% of the drug administered.
 
I would not jump to fentanyl, for a number of reasons. It would jack your opioid tolerance up more quickly, and has a larger side-effect profile, on the whole. I would actually suggest you look into OxyContin (extended-release oxycodone), or possibly an extended-release preparation of morphine. I would suggest OxyContin first, because you do well with the instant-release oxycodone for breakthrough pain, and oxycodone is a good opiate analgesic IMO. Morphine is another option, and I would urge it be taken orally no matter what. There are a number of extended-release morphine preparations. Oral morphine is often considered to be inferior to other opioids, but with the right dose it can be a very good opiate analgesic. It is the prototypical opiate, really, and will render opiate effects (including analgesia (pain relief), of course). It is also a bit heavier, making it possibly a better option to allow for better sleep, and just "dealing" in general better with the pain. But, with either of those extended-release, I would keep your instant-release oxycodone to help with breakthrough pain, esp. since you have had good success with it. I might also recommend you use Soma (carisoprodol) to help with the pain AS NEEDED, for it has analgesic properties and is a GABAergic sedative-hypnotic on top of that. It is typically used as a muscle-relaxant, but I don't see why, if you NEEDED it, a low dose of Soma here and there for breakthrough pain with the oxycodone, would hurt any. The only concern I guess I would have about Soma is that it could suck you into an addiction which you want to avoid at all costs, and you would of course have to watch your dose of Soma so not to cause too much CNS depression with the opiates and Soma, combined. I would suggest it as an "emergency" breakthrough med, almost - not something to be taken unless really needed.

There are also other options for chronic pain that can be taken along with opiates such as Lyrica (pregabalin) and Neurontin (gabapentin), which can really help with nerve pain, but really any pain. Possible, too, is the addition of an NSAID, though I don't know how much that would relieve you of the pain - for some pains they work wonders, for other pains they don't do much. Tricyclic anti-depressants are used, too, in conjunction with opiates for pain management. They can help a good deal for some. Other anti-depressants such as SNRI's that are not tricyclic, can be effective in helping cut down on the pain. But, all of this is trial and error. Still, though, it might be worth looking into other options besides JUST opiates, to form a cocktail aimed at really relieving your pain and/or making it more manageable via different mechanisms of action.
 
So 15mg ir oxy makes you feel pain relief but a 40mg opan er doesn't? And you are worried bc they have pill limits? Why not up the dose of roxy ir to 30 then open those n split em in half when u would a 15mg ir. The tamperproof bullshit on the er pills sometimes causes then to not work for people. Maybe try low dose opana ir? Those are sting as fuck though so be careful if you consider it.
 
Oral time released oxymorphone (Opana) is a very poor pain management medication. Taken orally, one may get a maximum of 10% oxymorphone bioavailability, and that depends on what you've eaten that day as well as the days leading up to the dosage. Your body chemistry and digestive functions change from day to day depending on a number of factors, and therefore at 10% bioavailability through oral administration, the efficacy of Opana is both weak and unpredictable. The bioavailability of oral oxycodone on the other hand is somewhere between 70-90% i believe, so the dosage is always likely to produce a similar result, because even if you get a low scale absorption, you still get most of it into the system. Fentanyl patches would be another option, but fentanyl has proved to induce pretty nasty side effects when taken for longer periods of time, and therefore most commonly prescribed to people who are, for lack of better term, 'on their way out.' OxyContin, Methadone, or Morphine would probably be your best options. I think they are developing, if it hasn't hit the market already, an extended release hydrocodone, which if available would be one of my top recommendations.
 
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