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Reincarnation

right, as I mentioned that already. I'm saying is if you by any chance remember a lot about your past life and what not .. you might be a little freaked out thats my guess. sometimes, sit back and take everything in knowing that I am already dead... i wont remember this moment.. everything is already gone and this only makes everything beautiful in my opinion.
 
There's no real evidence I guess... but either way, you don't have to worry about being this ego forever because you won't be. The "you" that you identify with will die when your body dies. I have discovered through meditation that there is a subtle... something... in me that hasn't changed since the day I was born. Whatever this something is, is content to be, it never changes, it never demands elevation, enlightenment, or spiritual ladders. Buddhists call it the subtle mind. They believe it's the "real you" that continues on after death. I don't claim to know for sure either way.

All I know is that ego is an unverified phenomenon. When you were born someone told you that you're a "you" and you believed it axiomatically, without any inquiry. Then "self" was born and all its layers of convoluted reasoning and clinging to separateness.

If God is infinite then we are part of God, there is no real separation from that Oneness. There is no spiritual ladder, nothing you have to do to become "connected". The connection is right now. Ego fights this because ego clings to separateness - it's built into the human experience. If you quiet the obvious ego mind and revert to the subtle mind, you will see that it is the same as everything around you. For this reason, I don't know that I believe in reincarnation, because I'm not sure that I really believe in the false duality of life and death; for death is just ego death, and ego was never real in the first place, so how were you ever alive. It's all just one continuous thing.
 
Reincarnation makes no sense. It says 'you' come back as a different person, but if it's a different person with no memories and different DNA, it's not 'you'. It's the same thing as being dead. It's nonsensical.

Either way, fact is, the molecules that constitute your body have been around for billions of years. They were probably part of millions of living creatures over that period. And those same molecules will continue to exist until the end of the universe, taking all sorts of shapes and forms until then. That's the only sort of 'reincarnation' that is at all viable to me.
 
Bubaleedo92 said:
"Anacalypsis" is the book "the Davincie Code" was based on, I think, but I'm new to this research so... Check it out. :)

Here's the Wikipedia link:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anacalypsis
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Ya, from looking into it, I can't say that "Anacalypsis" has anything I do with "The Davinci Code". But still, it is a good read on alternative spins on religious histories. Check it out of you like religious conspiricy stuf.
 
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nAON said:
Reincarnation makes no sense. It says 'you' come back as a different person, but if it's a different person with no memories and different DNA, it's not 'you'. It's the same thing as being dead. It's nonsensical.
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But if 'you' are not your body, 'your' survival is not dependent on it's.

Bubaleedo92 said:
Ya, from looking into it, I can't say that "Anacalypsis" has anything I do with "The Davinci Code". But still, it is a good read on alternative spins on religious histories. Check it out of you like religious conspiricy stuf.
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I think the book you're looking for is Holy Blood, Holy Grail http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holy_Blood_and_the_Holy_Grail
 
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The Bhagavad-Gita, which is the essence of all vedic literature and knowledge and the direct word of god, Lord Shri Krishna, states a vast ammount of evidence on the fact of reincarnation. Krishna says that just as the body changes clothes from day to day, so too, does the soul change bodies from lifetime to lifetime. Just as the body changes from childhood, to teenager, to old age, so does our consciousness and soul change throughout various incarnations. Look at how different you are now, then how you were from your childhood, Youve got an entire new body. Your whole body has dissolved and reconstructed itself, changed its shape and is still going through change. We are always in a constant state of change. This is also verified by Buddha, not only Krishna.

Krishna Is the supreme lord, cause of all causes, the original source of all creation and destruction, inexhaustible. He states in the bhagavad gita:

"That which pervades the entire body is indestructible. No one is able to destroy the imperishable soul.

Only the material body of the indestructible, immeasurable and eternal living entity is subject to destruction; therefore, fight, O descendant of Bharata.

He who thinks that the living entity is the slayer, or that the entity is slain, does not understand. One who is knowledge knows that the self slays not nor is slain.

For the soul there is never birth, nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain.

O partha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, unborn, eternal and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?

As a person puts on new garments, giving up the old ones, similarly, the soul accepts new bodies, giving up the old and useless ones.

The soul can never be cut into pieces by any weapon, nor can he be burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind.

This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is ever lasting all pervading, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same.

It is said that the soul is invisible, inconceivable, immutable and unchangeable. Knowing this, you should not grieve for the body.

If, however, you think the soul is perpetually born and always dies, still you have no reason to lament, O mighty-armed.

For one who has taken his birth, death is certain; and for one who is dead, birth is certain. Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament.

All created beings are unmanifest in their beginnings, manifest in their interim state, and unmanifest again when they are annihilated. So what need is there for lamentation?

(bhagavad gita, ch. 2, lines 17-28 )
 
Sorry this is kind of random...but there was a funny Hollywood movie released about reincarnation called "Defending your Life." It used to be on youtube, and I was gonna put a link after seeing this thread, but I think it got taken down. If you haven't seen it, its pretty entertaining.
 
HypGnosis said:
I couldn't say for sure, but my best guess would be at the quantum level. One of the variations of Quantum Consciousness Theory would provide a framework to ground such an assertion.

www.quantum-mind.co.uk
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What makes you think it's based on a quantum level, and not just on a molecular one? There is no evidence to the contrary. Occams razor, after all.
 
Youz guys !
;)
Apply this and its resource to your theories and questions in your own words.

High Yogi said:
The Bhagavad-Gita, which is the essence of all vedic literature and knowledge and the direct word of god, Lord Shri Krishna, states a vast ammount of evidence on the fact of reincarnation. Krishna says that just as the body changes clothes from day to day, so too, does the soul change bodies from lifetime to lifetime. Just as the body changes from childhood, to teenager, to old age, so does our consciousness and soul change throughout various incarnations. Look at how different you are now, then how you were from your childhood, Youve got an entire new body. Your whole body has dissolved and reconstructed itself, changed its shape and is still going through change. We are always in a constant state of change. This is also verified by Buddha, not only Krishna.

Krishna Is the supreme lord, cause of all causes, the original source of all creation and destruction, inexhaustible. He states in the bhagavad gita:

"That which pervades the entire body is indestructible. No one is able to destroy the imperishable soul.

Only the material body of the indestructible, immeasurable and eternal living entity is subject to destruction; therefore, fight, O descendant of Bharata.

He who thinks that the living entity is the slayer, or that the entity is slain, does not understand. One who is knowledge knows that the self slays not nor is slain.

For the soul there is never birth, nor death. Nor, having once been, does he ever cease to be. He is unborn, eternal, ever existing, undying and primeval. He is not slain when the body is slain.

O partha, how can a person who knows that the soul is indestructible, unborn, eternal and immutable kill anyone or cause anyone to kill?

As a person puts on new garments, giving up the old ones, similarly, the soul accepts new bodies, giving up the old and useless ones.

The soul can never be cut into pieces by any weapon, nor can he be burned by fire, nor moistened by water, nor withered by the wind.

This individual soul is unbreakable and insoluble, and can be neither burned nor dried. He is ever lasting all pervading, unchangeable, immovable and eternally the same.

It is said that the soul is invisible, inconceivable, immutable and unchangeable. Knowing this, you should not grieve for the body.

If, however, you think the soul is perpetually born and always dies, still you have no reason to lament, O mighty-armed.

For one who has taken his birth, death is certain; and for one who is dead, birth is certain. Therefore, in the unavoidable discharge of your duty, you should not lament.

All created beings are unmanifest in their beginnings, manifest in their interim state, and unmanifest again when they are annihilated. So what need is there for lamentation?

(bhagavad gita, ch. 2, lines 17-28 )
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KRISHNAKRISHNA
 
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nAON said:
Reincarnation makes no sense. It says 'you' come back as a different person, but if it's a different person with no memories and different DNA, it's not 'you'. It's the same thing as being dead. It's nonsensical.

Either way, fact is, the molecules that constitute your body have been around for billions of years. They were probably part of millions of living creatures over that period. And those same molecules will continue to exist until the end of the universe, taking all sorts of shapes and forms until then. That's the only sort of 'reincarnation' that is at all viable to me.
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I did not believe in reincarnation, I tried, but it was nonsensicle to me too. seems our dna though is part of the vessel which contains your essence, and everything you have lived thorough, in this life and previous ones is there, and there quite to your personal benefit ;) I would love to go on about this but am typing on my phone and there is no way haha.

Grr
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We live a few thousand times as different species of animals reptiles fishes, and plants...this is our last rung in the ladder of life as people, it is a wonderful thing.
 
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nAON said:
What makes you think it's based on a quantum level, and not just on a molecular one? There is no evidence to the contrary. Occams razor, after all.
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I would guess that because we haven't found a 'consciousness molecule' within the brain one doesn't exist. It's possible though I guess.
I also think there is evidence that suggests consciousness displays quantum behavior which would explain psi (psychic functioning). Dean Radin's book Entangled Minds touches on this subject.

panic in paradise said:
seems our dna though is part of the vessel which contains your essence, and everything you have lived thorough, in this life and previous ones is there, and there quite to your personal benefit
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I also think that DNA is linked somehow to our past lives; I've had ideas when off my head about DNA being a multidimensional and integral part of our soul.
 
^ went off in your head eh?

We have multiple stains of DNA, they are prone to oxidizing and so doing things like yoga which fills the body with oxygen helps to enable/activate it, consuming things to help keep you in a more alkaline state is also beneficial.
 
What do I believe? I believe the soul exists as a single entity, and is reincarnated at different times through different lives.
The human brain doesn't really have anything to help decipher these memories or experiences, but we do have basic animal-like instincts.
These aren't really taught but just known from animal to animal.

I believe basic instincts, reactions to certain situations and emotions all are dictated from a previous life that one has lived and passed on from body to body... Some of this can be unique to brain chemistry, but why would the DNA cause that much of a unique difference from person to person? Why can't it be as simple as "X is missing so with this medicince POOF you're finished"
Everyone is unique, every brain is unique, every DNA is unique...

DNA cannot be repeated if past lives are remembered because by the end of a life new experiences and ways of life are discovered, and the next lives DNA would be changed accordingly to the differences made...

There can also be an infinte amount of souls within the universe travelling around, so there cannot be a "limit" to how many people can live...
 
panic in paradise said:
^ went off in your head eh?
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Yep, tend to do that quite a bit, I don't think enough people do (excluding bluelight posters of course).


panic in paradise said:
We have multiple stains of DNA, they are prone to oxidizing and so doing things like yoga which fills the body with oxygen helps to enable/activate it, consuming things to help keep you in a more alkaline state is also beneficial.
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When you say 'enable/activate it' do you mean the DNA, and if so, what do you think are the benefits of activating your DNA?
 
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At present there is more chance that you weren't reincarnated and this is your first time on the planet.
 
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