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^^ Aye, I was talking about the hypothetical idea of the country being absolutely flooded with extreme dose pills. Highly unlikely to ever happen in reality though.

100mg+ pills are definitely going to continue to be more available. I just don't think the doses will ever get ridiculously high & don't think they really should tbh. You can always take more than 1 if you want to.

Aye M.O.P. that's exactly what I'm trying to say. I don't think they'll get too ridiculous though. The 200mg MDA pills etc are never going to be made, the pill producers aren't that stupid.
 
parttime crackhead said:
^^ Aye, I was talking about the hypothetical idea of the country being absolutely flooded with extreme dose pills. Highly unlikely to ever happen in reality though.

100mg+ pills are definitely going to continue to be more available. I just don't think the doses will ever get ridiculously high & don't think they really should tbh. You can always take more than 1 if you want to.

Aye M.O.P. that's exactly what I'm trying to say. I don't think they'll get too ridiculous though. The 200mg MDA pills etc are never going to be made, the pill producers aren't that stupid.
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I just wish there was pure crystal of all the mdxx family so more experienced users could do there own pick and mixing without getting splashed all over the newspapers for shoving 10 high dose pills up their arse searching for ultimate hit
 
Also ^ LOL wtf - who did this and ended up in the newspapers?!?!

parttime crackhead said:
I just don't think the doses will ever get ridiculously high & don't think they really should tbh.

The 200mg MDA pills etc are never going to be made, the pill producers aren't that stupid.
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Point A: yeah they shouldn't, 70-120mg is ample - but if it starts happening again, like when things really kicked off in hte 2nd summer of love, what's the worst that could happen? People get a bit too spangled and realize they only need to take half??

MDMA is a safe drug, so it should be fine if the pills aren't pressed too hard - this is why people drop, then drop again.

B: I'd like a 200mg MDA pill - that sounds insane...

For the general populous, widespread, I think that would be grand. I think it could shock the drug culture of the UK out of double/triple dropping in case they take a high dose pill, and start being mindful of the fact that you could OD, and end up not being able to dance, or anything much for tha matter apart from stroke fur and cuddle up to the nearest person next to you while tripping you tits off, talking to people who aren't there - seen it happen, not that disasterous really...potentially embarrassing for a few hours, but whatever.
 
well going by my experiences, the diamonds are going in reverse or are quite random, because it was much better this weekend then last summer from what vie tried anway. this is what i dont like, and where your argument is kind of contradictory really, because weve had people on pr saying the diamonds are possibly 60-80mgs, or 70-90mgs, if tis not good enough for you, double drop etc etc, now we have people saying theyve been upped to 110, and somone saying on dutch reports now saying ones been tested at 195 at a different shade of colour. so what happens if i next time double drop these pills belieiving there 80mgs?

thats dangerous, much more dangerous than the pill just of always containing the correct dose and everyone knowing there a strong pill in the first place from day one imo
 
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Dee Dee -not really, dude.

It's not dangerous - LD50 for MDMA is ridiculously high, in relative terms, and it would teach you not to do it again without trying 1 or a half like any rational person would do, when taking an unknown substance.

Every time you take ANY pill - you're playing russian roulette it even has ANY MDMA in it, instead of something awful and potentially harmful (meth pills in USA for example), let alone "too much".
 
thats my whole point in the first place, trust me i could handle it, thats what i want, a pill with 150 to 200 mgs mdma, i dont want to have to double drop based on doing maths from rumours how much they may contain only to find out im taking a stronger batch and double the amount i wanted to take at nearly 400mgs in one go, that pushes people into the danger zone, surely especially if there not used to it, beginners, rather than just make sure the uk has bloody 150/200 mg pills in the first place. just swallow one pill, forget the bloody split line in halfs, take it, job done. end of
 
adam phinel said:
Very nice beenz I would say.

I reckon they have to be about 120-130mg but it's a guess? My dealer actually reckons they have MDA in them but it's probably bollocks. I have had very slight trippy MDA like visuals off after a couple of them. But you do occasionally anyway with good MDMA.

They are the nicer type of MDMA too I think. Not the kind everyone says is lacking.
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the orange standbys are good but i thought they were lacking and I had the dutch outpress ones with the score on the back. you had the inpress ones right?

i think the fact that i felt they were lacking was probably down to set and setting because i was shitfaced
 

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^^^ and usually u knew u got a snide just by looking at it, or definitley as soon as u put it in your mouth and tasted it
 
i am beginning to come round to the thinking that in 1988 and the early part of 89 that the pills i was doing more than likely contained some mda as well. even thinking about the diamonds i did on sat morning, u just went str8 into sit back loved up warm glo blisness. u never had that wicked evil paranoid beginning or body rushyness or nervousness or aggitation at all that i used to get or have always associated with ecstacy from my early days. i think all along in that acid house era there was alot more mda floating around in pills we was calling ecstacy, im reasonably confident about that now, or beginng to sway to that conclusion
 
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You say the lethal dosage of MDMA is ridiculously high, but what about the additional effects of MDMA?

What I mean is whilst 200mg will not kill you from toxicity, what about the effects on the heart etc etc?
 
it will increase your heart rate of course if you dropped 200 mgs of decent mdma, thats not healthy overall for the heart of course, but thats what ecstacy does?

are we supposed to only take 50mg or 100mg mdma dosed pills to reduce the risk on the heart when thats what a proper mdma trip is ment to be doing?

im really confused here, i respect and always try and advocate reasonably safe drug use, if such a thing exists, but im not sure where your coming from tbh. read any old literature about the effects of ecstacy, even before acid house made it popular in the uk, obviously the side effects, risks and medical side of things, they will all tell you the same thing, ecstacy increases the heart rate. it doesnt not tell u to take a quarter or half the dose to reduce risks to the heart, or any other risk for that matter.

150mg, or 200mg dose of mdma is an ecstacy trip, and with the pleasures and possible health risks that come from doing that
 
True - it would cause a strain, but it's something you'd recover from, you'd need to take it easy for a while afterwards, but "dangerous"?? no - 400mg is not dangerous.

Dee dee - re: post 592 - I was told by a very reliable source, that back n the day MDA was in a fair number of E's, but also Meth was put in, in VERY small amounts.
 
dee_dee said:
thats my whole point in the first place, trust me i could handle it, thats what i want, a pill with 150 to 200 mgs mdma, i dont want to have to double drop based on doing maths from rumours how much they may contain only to find out im taking a stronger batch and double the amount i wanted to take at nearly 400mgs in one go, that pushes people into the danger zone, surely especially if there not used to it, beginners, rather than just make sure the uk has bloody 150/200 mg pills in the first place. just swallow one pill, forget the bloody split line in halfs, take it, job done. end of
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You confuse me at times. The only thing I can take from this post is that you want it to be a world/drug market where every single pill ever, every single one of them is 150 to 200mg of MDMA. Surely you can see that in the real world this is never going to happen & I'd like to think that you can appreciate that while 150 to 200mg of MDMA might be the dose you want, it might be too much for someone else. Yet you seem to be selfishly saying "Well, I want 200mg of MDMA in my pills so I demand that all pills have 200mg of MDMA & if someone else can't handle it then what are they doing taking MY drug in the first place".

dee_dee said:
i am beginning to come round to the thinking that in 1988 and the early part of 89 that the pills i was doing more than likely contained some mda as well. even thinking about the diamonds i did on sat morning, u just went str8 into sit back loved up warm glo blisness. u never had that wicked evil paranoid beginning or body rushyness or nervousness or aggitation at all that i used to get or have always associated with ecstacy from my early days. i think all along in that acid house era there was alot more mda floating around in pills we was calling ecstacy, im reasonably confident about that now, or beginng to sway to that conclusion
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It's a fact that your early pills had a mix of MDMA & MDA in them. You shouldn't have to come to that conclusion, if you've read this site or read much about pills you should be aware of this & not had to figure it out for yourself. I certainly wasn't taking eckies in the 90's but I know that a lot of them contained MDMA, MDA & MDEA in varying ratios (along with speed etc).
 
parttime crackhead said:
You confuse me at times. The only thing I can take from this post is that you want it to be a world/drug market where every single pill ever, every single one of them is 150 to 200mg of MDMA. Surely you can see that in the real world this is never going to happen & I'd like to think that you can appreciate that while 150 to 200mg of MDMA might be the dose you want, it might be too much for someone else. Yet you seem to be selfishly saying "Well, I want 200mg of MDMA in my pills so I demand that all pills have 200mg of MDMA & if someone else can't handle it then what are they doing taking MY drug in the first place".



It's a fact that your early pills had a mix of MDMA & MDA in them. You shouldn't have to come to that conclusion, if you've read this site or read much about pills you should be aware of this & not had to figure it out for yourself. I certainly wasn't taking eckies in the 90's but I know that a lot of them contained MDMA, MDA & MDEA in varying ratios (along with speed etc).
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yeah mdea came in 1990 though im aware of that and no how it feels, thats not my bag. erm, as for shouldnt have to come to that conculsion, well, id rather no for a fact myself. i am now taking just mdma, and it just makes u as i say feel blissed out, thats fine for the end of the buzz, but there was a whole lot more going on in the beginning on the come up years and years ago, and clearly that was mda now, i have done pure mda pills in 1992 withought a doubt, and they were very intense, clearly as u say makes sense, the original californians and white burgers i was doing 88/89 were probally a mix of both mda and mdma, u got an extreme loved up euphoria but not before the intense come up, body rushes and a more hallcnigenic confused state part.

can somone make one of those again please, id be forever greatful =D
 
dee_dee said:
yeah mdea came in 1990 though im aware of that and no how it feels, thats not my bag. erm, as for shouldnt have to come to that conculsion, well, id rather no for a fact myself. i am now taking just mdma, and it just makes u as i say feel blissed out, thats fine for the end of the buzz, but there was a whole lot more going on in the beginning on the come up years and years ago, and clearly that was mda now, i have done pure mda pills in 1992 withought a doubt, and they were very intense, clearly as u say makes sense, the original californians and white burgers i was doing 88/89 were probally a mix of both mda and mdma, u got an extreme loved up euphoria but not before the intense come up, body rushes and a more hallcnigenic confused state part.

can somone make one of those again please, id be forever greatful =D
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The problem is, and I'm all for harm reduction, if you do a full ez test not just the marquis on it's own which tells you fuck all it's all about testing that the substance is MDMA and MDMA only.
It clearly states the test will pick up on dangerous additives like mda and pma.
The later I can see and for other people they could probably the first one but I'm old school and love my ecstasy which is a completely different drug to MDMA.
I know for a fact the MDMA love is one you can lose in time.
For me ecstasy, although very dangerous, is the one for me.
It's like they always say "it if feels good it is probably bad for you"
But it never killed me and imo there is alot worse floating around or waiting to hit the streets.
It just seems to me a blind eye is turned if it's bob on MDMA but make it real exciting and we'll come and get ya.
 
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