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Misc regiment of Rotating drugs to avoid addiction

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I had an ex-boyfriend who would rotate heroin, cocaine, weed and amphetamines every week and then not use any drugs for three days until the next week. He claimed he wasn't addicted but that was bull.
 
I almost don't believe the OP is actually contemplating this. But this HAS to stay open for the OBVIOUS harm reduction.

I wonder if there's a better place on this site where the OP could get a more in depth response on why. All we can give is the obvious answer.
 
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shimazu said:
also its not very easy to be able to acquire all those different kind of drugs on set schedules. What if youre dealer is gone that day? Youd just substitute another drug in to keep the "everyday high" going. Makes sense in theory, but not practically.
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This is exactly what i thought as well. Having a steady supply of all those drugs on a permanent basis is just something i believe to be virtually impossible.
 
tricomb said:
I almost don't believe the OP is actually contemplating this. But this HAS to stay open for the OBVIOUS harm reduction.

I wonder if there's a better place on this site where the OP could get a more in depth response on why. All we can give is the obvious answer.
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This idea I have thought about for a very long time. I have yet to meet someone in real life, or on the forums that has such a regiment I had suggested. On the forums I have seen some of the most extreme forms or use/abuse, and am wondering if I can find those cases.

As I said before, if there is one state of mind I dislike more than anything else and that is the state of being sober. And yes I have tried to enjoy this state of mind, but I can tell you it dosn't work out for me. The sober state is just extremely boring, and I absolutely hate it with a passion.

I have done and abused virtually every drug out there. I have also had problems where I would take one addictive drug for too long, and I find myself with the issue of addiction, tolerance after going on a binge. So in the interest in harm reduction I'm wondering if it would be safer to just set up a regiment to rotate the drugs in order to stay high every other day, so I avoid addiction/tolerance to just one drug.

I have yet I meet one person whom has done something like this,and or has done this successfully.

-PLUR
 
You haven't met anyone who's accomplished it because I doubt they exist. In terms of harm reduction, I think there is less harm in a monodrug addiction than this "strategy".

There is only one way I can think of constant intoxication, but it would end up killing you. Fast. Your tolerance would climb so fast that if you didn't die first of other problems, like cardiac arrest, you would eventually die when your liver and kidneys shut down.

Permanent inebriation is a suicide mission.

How the hell is your sober life so boring to the point where you need to be medicated 24/7 ?

There are people out there who actually have to be medicated all day everyday. Psychiatric, cancer, cardiac, chronic pain, autoimmune disorder, neurological, disabled patients, to name a few.

Aren't you healthy? Get out and learn to enjoy a sober life. Be thankful you have all your senses, be thankful you're not blind. You have a perfectly good body I'm guessing, don't ruin it with drugs all the time. Your "need" to medicate all the time is your life's need for a major lifestyle change.
 
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As I said before, if there is one state of mind I dislike more than anything else and that is the state of being sober. And yes I have tried to enjoy this state of mind, but I can tell you it dosn't work out for me. The sober state is just extremely boring, and I absolutely hate it with a passion.
-PLUR
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maybe you can't stand being sober because you've been doing drugs too hard/long... and your brilliant plan is to just do different drugs everyday, exposing yourself to a whole variety of dangers rather than just a few?

the reason you haven't found this absurdity anywhere else is because... it's simply absurd.
 
Yeah I'm not saying that poly drug abuse is the worst thing ever. But the way the OP wants to do it would prove disabling/fatal.

I use several drugs a month, but never on any fixed schedule, and with plenty of time in between. And I certainly don't spend all week doped up, despite how much I love opiates.

Even with my DOC (opiates) I don't allow myself to be high 24/7, but I'm a chronic pain patient so having my pain medication no longer work due to tolerance is not an option, and frankly irresponsible and reckless.
 
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For me personally there is one state I hate more than anything else and its the state of being sober. I must be intoxicated everyday, or else life is boring.

I was wondering if anyone has worked out a regiment to where you can get high everyday, by rotating the drugs that hit a different neurotransmitters so you don't have an issue with building up a tolerance or getting an addiction.

For example:

Day 1: Use stimulants, and drugs that effect the dopamine system. Amphetamines, cocaine, methamphetamine etc.. They hit your dopamine receptors.
Day 2: Use cannabis as it hits your CB1 cannabis receptors.
Day 3: Use MDMA as its a serotoninergic, and affects your serotonin system.
Day 4: Use disassociatives such as ketamine, DXM, MXE etc... they hit your NMDA system.
Day5 : Use hallucinogens as it also affects your specific serotonin receptors.
Day 6 : Use opiates, and they affect your opiate receptors.
Day 7 : Use benzos as they hit your GABA receptors.

Fill in day: Soma, its a muscle relaxer and dosn't hit those specific system it can be mixed in some of the regiments.

Repeat again for the next week. I think the regiment can be modified, as long as you hit a different receptor system for the week you should be fine.

If this model can be put to use, it prevents addiction since you don't constantly bombard the same neurotransmitter, so it prevents your brain from being rewired say if you abused dopamine based drugs.

I was wondering if anyone has ever used such a regiment where you hit your different neurotransmitters on different days so you don't get a tolerance to the compound or to avoid addiction.

-PLUR
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Errr I hate to be that guy but I'll point out some problems.
1) pretty much every drug of abuse hits the same NAcc mediated reward pathways, and receptors there are subject to compensatory changes.
2) Stimulants after benzo's... SUPER HAPPY SEIZURE FUN TIME
3) MDMA after stimulants... tolerance like a mofo and oxidative stress out the wazzo
4) Dissociatives and benzo's used for any long term period will both lead to massive excitotoxicity on the rebound
5) Its pretty much all dopamine at the end aside from benzo's and perhaps opioids which act as a weird ass extremely indirect way.

You'd probably die after a month or two.
Seek psychiatric help.

Unless you want to guinea pig things that haven't even been put into monkeys there really is no way to get high every day without significant tolerance developing. Hell there are even startling differences between the neurological changes for people who take certain drugs non-recreationally vs recreationally at the same doses. Trust me, I've done way more research than you would believe on amphetamine tolerance and tolerance in general and the body does not want you to be high every day, so many feedback mechanisms... so many...

I've found some things that work for amphetamine specifically but they're not perfect and discussed in depth in my ADD threads.
 
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I have done and abused virtually every drug out there. I have also had problems where I would take one addictive drug for too long, and I find myself with the issue of addiction, tolerance after going on a binge.
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Then why on Earth would you consider doing this? You clearly admit you don't have the self control necessary to handle even use of individual drugs. So what's gonna happen when you find a combo that blows your mind and you say fuck it to this little plan of yours?
tricomb said:
Aren't you healthy? Get out and learn to enjoy a sober life. Be thankful you have all your senses, be thankful you're not blind. You have a perfectly good body I'm guessing, don't ruin it with drugs all the time. Your "need" to medicate all the time is your life needs a major lifestyle change.
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Seriously :\

OP, sorry, I don't know how to say this nice so I'll just say it. Grow the fuck up and take control of your life.
I'm gonna be fucking pissed if I see your name in the Bluelight Shrine in a few months.
 
Urgez said:
the reason you haven't found this absurdity anywhere else is because... it's simply absurd.
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Exactly..it is ridiculous to even contemplate, and if you're looking for someone on here who has tried such a thing..good luck. You won't find them. Coming up with this scenario is almost like sitting around and contemplating what superpowers you'd like to have given the choice..like, "humm.. it'd be cool to fly..but also be invisible, and maybe super speed..or. blah blah blah." It's an exercise in futility and is something only to be randomly pondered when bored.. but not actually something to ever be considered a reality. I get keeping this thread open Tricomb..but hah, it is pretty crazy man and after a while there isn't much else to say. It's crazy and unrealistic in too many ways.
 
I'm currently awaiting word from fellow staff to find out if there is a forum where he can get any better answers than ours, and I highly doubt there will be. I consulted Epsilon_Alpha from ADD and he responded in this thread with perfect advice. But it's staying open so the OP can respond to the 50 posts of why he shouldn't attempt this.
 
Candy_Raver said:
For me personally there is one state I hate more than anything else and its the state of being sober. I must be intoxicated everyday, or else life is boring.
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That is real depressing man. Drugs should be used to enhance.... One day you are going to have to either
1) Stop
2) Slow down
3) Suffer the consequences

See a therapist man. Life is great.
 
OP, have you checked out TDS (the dark side)? I'm not saying it may necessarily be of any use to you, but if you feel as though there's something needing help under the surface that led to your rational for this regime, then the good folk there may be able to shed some light on the psychology behind such a proposal.
 
tricomb said:
I'm currently awaiting word from fellow staff to find out if there is a forum where he can get any better answers than ours, and I highly doubt there will be. I consulted Epsilon_Alpha from ADD and he responded in this thread with perfect advice. But it's staying open so the OP can respond to the 50 posts of why he shouldn't attempt this.
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After reading 3 pages worth of response, and a response from the ADD mod, I have made the decision to scrap the plan rotating many different drugs everyday on a regiment so I can stay high 24/7. As the plan is considered too dangerous, and likely will not end up well.

Well if the mods here want to close it, feel free as I have changed my mind on this specific subject.

-PLUR
 
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