Recreation use of pseudoephedrine??

[Polluted_Mind]

Anyone else in Australia found this stuff to be euphoric when used above the dose for congestion? Can you separate the pseudo from the paracetamol by any simple CWE-type method? I've heard of it being used as the precursor to meth, but pretty much nothing about it being used recreationally on its own.

A couple of days ago I found myself awake from insomnia at 5am and an important 5 hour class then exam the next day and sadly realized I would probably have to miss it as coffee has no chance of working that well, but then racking my brains I thought maybe since pseudo -> meth it would be similar in its stimulant properties. Around 8.30 I got to the pharmacy in the city and was nervous as I know they're strict on this stuff, but to my surprise the young guy was more than happy to give it to me, and even apologized about having to process my ID.

Basically I ended up taking 120mg with a Red Bull before class and 150mg at lunch time. Everything went brilliantly, was wide awake and perky, aced the exam, and even made friends with other people there which is usually a tall task for me. When it came time to go home at 6pm I should've been falling asleep but instead was absolutely wired so decided to buy some beer and relax. It felt so good that I did another 120mg later on that night while doing some writing. Ended up staying awake until 10am the next day (48 hours in total).

So yeah a total of 390mg over this period had me just as high as maybe 3 average lines of OK speed.

 

[Captain Brewster]

Was there paracetamol in these tablets?

You probably want to get the apap out, I think I read somewhere that pseudo is fairly water soluble, so cwe might work.

But it's such a jittery uncomfortable high, with no euphoria.

 

[Mysterie]

all the reports ive read of recreational pseudo use is of people having lots of them and then experiencing a greatly elevated HR/jitters and not a worthwhile amount of euphoria

yes it is advisable to do a CWE, im not 100% sure but i think Pmol isnt water soluble, but idk if pseudo is water soluble

ive done almost all legal/shit drugs and have not even considered taking pseudo even having read peoples reports because they kind of put me off it

also id be suprised if you were able to procure pseudo so easily next time

 

[Verybuffed]

I have used Sudey as part of my pre-game stack for EVERY hockey game - International, National and Local - for the last 7 years.

When you hear that familiar rattle in your mates Hockey bag - you know what's up.

 

[Sublimit]

Its good as a stimulant to stay awake, but agree with it being worthless for recreational use.

Let me get this straight, you got it in a combo with paracetamol and not the little red straight pseudo box? I think your "high" had as much to do with the small amount of codeine that, as far as i know, is in the pseudo/paracetamol that was sold to you as the pseudo itself.... just a thought... could of synergized up nicely lol

as with getting the stuff, on the handful of occasions that i have needed/wanted it, well i've been surprised by the lack of times i've even had to produce my license.... maybe 3 times out of 10, and most of the times the assistant hasn't even bothered to ask for the consent of the pharmacist.... on the other hand, one time after an all nighter, feeling like shit and looking even worse I went in and got some stuck up assistant ask for my ID right off the bat and since i only had a keypass at the time she was trying to tell me they couldn't accept it and only until i insisted that she could and saying that i haven't bought this stuff in over a year did it prompt her to reluctantly take my ID and give me what i needed.

So next time I'm just curious, and it sounds like you're going to anyway regardless of what anyone says, only complain about sinuses and get the straight pseudo 60mg(i think) tablets non PE shit, and see if there's any difference... and at the same time not fuck up your liver in the process eh? 2g before class, 2.5g at lunch, then some beer in the afternoon....a 6pack i presume? and washed down another 2grams of paracetamol.... shit, be careful there mate

 

[Sublimit]

I have used Sudey as part of my pre-game stack for EVERY hockey game - International, National and Local - for the last 7 years.

When you hear that familiar rattle in your mates Hockey bag - you know what's up.

you'd be better off using a banana and a sports drink

 

[puffpuffpass]

The small boxes of 12 have 60mg with no APAP, alot easier if thats your thing.

I hate the stuff it makes my BP rise alot, heart starts racing, get jittery and just shitty overall feeling.

 

[Verybuffed]

you'd be better off using a banana and a sports drink

I use all that as well as protein, L-Glutamine, Colostrum, Beta Alanine, Amino's etc etc.

Being sponsored is awesome.

 

[Sublimit]

Being sponsored is awesome.

Lol, nice! but you wouldn't want your sponsor(s) to know about using pseudo as well otherwise you'd find yourself having to find another source of sponsorship, and possibly another sport eh? unless that is they also give you the pseudo to enhance your performance of course

 

[Verybuffed]

Lol, nice! but you wouldn't want your sponsor(s) to know about using pseudo as well otherwise you'd find yourself having to find another source of sponsorship, and possibly another sport eh? unless that is they also give you the pseudo to enhance your performance of course

They all know. We all use it and are allowed to do so.

I don't use any more than 200mg per session as per requirements under WADA.

It's the steroids that are watched in my sport.

 

[Polluted_Mind]

I think your "high" had as much to do with the small amount of codeine that, as far as i know, is in the pseudo/paracetamol that was sold to you as the pseudo itself.... just a thought... could of synergized up nicely lol

That's possibly true but I have used codeine pretty heavily in the past, and even though I only rarely use it now, it takes like 500mg at least to get any appreciable good feelings.

Was there paracetamol in these tablets?
You probably want to get the apap out, I think I read somewhere that pseudo is fairly water soluble, so cwe might work.

Yeah they are: Paracetamol 500mg + Pseudoephedrine hydrochloride 30mg + Codeine 9.5mg

That's why I wanted to know if CWE would work and I'm guessing it would as Pseudo HCl should be freely soluble in water... having said that all the methods online are A/B or similar type extractions which are not really worth it. Of course at the time I wasn't at home so didn't have the ability to do one but want to know anyway if I ever take it again.

I have used Sudey as part of my pre-game stack for EVERY hockey game.

Yeah ephedrine in particular is fairly widely used in sport to increase performance, hence why it's now banned by the World Anti-doping Agency and in the Olympics.

 

[cassandragemini]

Same with caffeine (except its not banned), a lot of professional rugby players use it before games. My uncle used to play rugby union and said he and most of the team would smoke 'p' (the nz slang for meth) before a game and at half time to amp themselves up. They were all in there 30's and 40's with families and apparently even the local cop who played in the team would join in. I'd personally much prefer a halftime pipe than the token halftime oranges, I bet meth is great for contact sports, you'd turn into an animal.

While i was travelling in the states I sometimes used pseudo as a pick me up when drinking, it is a dirty drug, especially in high doses but 30-60mg seems to go ok with a few beers, it at least gives you the energy to keep going when you're on a bender. Over there they sell the little red 30mg pills that don't have any other nasty shit like para or guifenisen in them OTC, everybody there pops them like they're going out of style when they have the flu. A lot of americans love their medications, the amount of people on opiate painkillers, ADHD meds and benzos especially is pretty shocking. We rented a failed reality tv star's apartment while she was on vacation and she had a tallboy draw full of various prescription meds, there must have been at least 10 different types of medication in there, literally hundreds of pills, for any and all purposes and all prescribed by the same doctor. Day time tv there is a barrage of adverts for big pharma, sometimes the part where they list the potential side effects and hazards of the drugs goes for 2 or 3 times longer than the ad itself. Coming a close second is ads for law firms and solicitors who specialise in suing for damages, handy if 2 of the 15 medications you dont need happen to mix badly.

 

[drug_mentor]

^ I used to box which would definately qualify as a contact sport and a couple times or so I smoked meth before sparring. I found it really counterproductive to be honest, you have to pace yourself so you don't gas out too quick but I found on meth it was a lot harder to slow myself down and kept trying to take my opponents head off. It would inevitably result in me burning out by the end of the first round and any subsequent rounds I was basically toast due to having half the remaining stamina of my opponent. For some reason I always felt it took longer for me to catch my breath after exerting the shit out of myself on meth than in normal circumstances.

I was a lot more into speed than ice at the time and I don't know if with ice might be slightly different. I have always found ice slightly more mellow than speed for whatever reason so it might be easier to pace yourself on shard. Also, the longer time to recover from cardio may of been caused by leftover chemicals in speed you probably wouldn't get in shards, who knows...

For the record I don't really condone the use of performance enhancing drugs in sport, and typically when I would box someone on meth they would be aware of the fact I had used and didn't have a problem with it.

I would add that stims + high intensity exercise definately puts a large strain on your body. I remember one time I snorted a bunch of ritalin after abstaining for like over a year and was really jacked, I proceeded to have an intense bjj match and afterwards I was fucking cooked. I really don't think I was far off having a heart attack or a stroke or something, I was on the floor basically unable to move for like ten minutes, dry wretching and feeling chest pains. It is an experience I hope I never go through again.

 

[Verybuffed]

Yeah ephedrine in particular is fairly widely used in sport to increase performance, hence why it's now banned by the World Anti-doping Agency and in the Olympics.

Ephedrine is not used in Australia any more. It was 10 years ago though.

The WADA Pseudoephedrine rules were changed 5 years ago. Now it is no more than 200mg per game

Like I said, they only care about roids.