War Pig
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its as if we were being put through a test u know?
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Really wierd shit going on (synchronicity)
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Since this is an incredeibly personal phenomenon, in that signs/connections/syncronicities one may notice, few if not no one else would, it seems to me like life can be a riddle with each of us as a key towards some sort of answer.
But i can see how this can easily become neurosis.
But i can see how this can easily become neurosis.
sexyanon2
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We had a thread on this before!! Ugh, what a nightmare that was for the skeptics like myself.
In one event, I found $5 on the side of the road. Of course, I pocketed it. Later that evening, though, a bum came up to me and asked me for some money. I don't know if I was intimidated or what, but I gave him the $5 (which hadn't been mine to begin with), and I tell you, that guy took a double take while looking straight forward, if you know what I mean. He was amazed, and seemed truly grateful. Don't know (or care) what he used that money for, but in retrospect the memory makes me feel good.
Dunno if that's synchron.. but it's good it made you feel good.
And can't ANYTHING been synchron'd? I don't want to delve into this any further without some defining of synchronicity.
Like what EI said (although I'm twisting it sort've): You can see it if you want to, and you can "turn it off." Perhaps it's all in the mind?
Since this is an incredeibly personal phenomenon, in that signs/connections/syncronicities one may notice, few if not no one else would, it seems to me like life can be a riddle with each of us as a key towards some sort of answer.
I feel that it's all just personal. You can make it mean something if you want it to. But really, it's pretty bogus IMO. Like singing a song in your head and then hearing it on a music player / radio.. hehe, ironic eh? Perhaps the song you're singing in your head is a flavor of the week? Or maybe your music player has bad randomization and plays that song often? Or coincidence?
Linear flow of energy in a non-linear world(or is it vice versa?).
Hmmm... short except of deep thought this is. Perhaps you'd care to explain? Or just leave us in mystery with the few selection of words you've left us (or at least me)
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The GOD complex is the issue of understanding that there is stuff we don't understand, so it gets labeled as being under GOD's control. Hence the GOD complex. If we don't understand somethng we automatically label it as being controlled by a higher source. It's a stress based reation that we humans have. We're stress based organisms after all. Our entire conciouness is based upon nervous system reactions with external stimuli, also known as 'stress'.
Yeah, David summed it up for me pretty well.
Seriously look up stuff on the Chaos theories. You'd be suprised what you'll learn about how every thing effects everything else.
That too.
Although, again, I don't know what synchron. means. Perhaps someone could explain and I could delve into this? (or perhaps you want the skeptic out of this convo?)
In one event, I found $5 on the side of the road. Of course, I pocketed it. Later that evening, though, a bum came up to me and asked me for some money. I don't know if I was intimidated or what, but I gave him the $5 (which hadn't been mine to begin with), and I tell you, that guy took a double take while looking straight forward, if you know what I mean. He was amazed, and seemed truly grateful. Don't know (or care) what he used that money for, but in retrospect the memory makes me feel good.
Dunno if that's synchron.. but it's good it made you feel good.
And can't ANYTHING been synchron'd? I don't want to delve into this any further without some defining of synchronicity.
Like what EI said (although I'm twisting it sort've): You can see it if you want to, and you can "turn it off." Perhaps it's all in the mind?
Since this is an incredeibly personal phenomenon, in that signs/connections/syncronicities one may notice, few if not no one else would, it seems to me like life can be a riddle with each of us as a key towards some sort of answer.
I feel that it's all just personal. You can make it mean something if you want it to. But really, it's pretty bogus IMO. Like singing a song in your head and then hearing it on a music player / radio.. hehe, ironic eh? Perhaps the song you're singing in your head is a flavor of the week? Or maybe your music player has bad randomization and plays that song often? Or coincidence?
Linear flow of energy in a non-linear world(or is it vice versa?).
Hmmm... short except of deep thought this is. Perhaps you'd care to explain? Or just leave us in mystery with the few selection of words you've left us (or at least me)
.The GOD complex is the issue of understanding that there is stuff we don't understand, so it gets labeled as being under GOD's control. Hence the GOD complex. If we don't understand somethng we automatically label it as being controlled by a higher source. It's a stress based reation that we humans have. We're stress based organisms after all. Our entire conciouness is based upon nervous system reactions with external stimuli, also known as 'stress'.
Yeah, David summed it up for me pretty well.
Seriously look up stuff on the Chaos theories. You'd be suprised what you'll learn about how every thing effects everything else.
That too.
Although, again, I don't know what synchron. means. Perhaps someone could explain and I could delve into this? (or perhaps you want the skeptic out of this convo?
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yougene
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http://fusionanomaly.net/synchronicity.html
synchronicity (sîng´kre-nîs´î-tê, sîn´-) noun
plural synchronicities
1. The state or fact of being synchronous or simultaneous; synchronism.
2. Coincidence of events that seem to be meaningfully related, conceived in the theory of Carl Jung as an explanatory principle on the same order as causality.
Introduced by Carl Jung and Wolfgang Pauli, this term is used to refer to what could be described as meaningful coincidence; an obvious connection between two apparently (in terms of cause and effect) non-related events.
The concept of synchronicity - when seen in a wider and "esoteric-magical" context - raises strong questions concerning the existence of "coincidence" at all. Before the concept was known by this name, people often referred to such synchronistic events as portents or omens. India and Tibet know a similar concept, called auspicious coincidence (Sanskrit., pratitya-samutpada) and/or interdependent co-origination (Tib., rten-'brel); strongly hinting at the basic definition of synchronicity as a coming together of several factors which, in concert, give rise to a certain situation.
synchronicity (sîng´kre-nîs´î-tê, sîn´-) noun
plural synchronicities
1. The state or fact of being synchronous or simultaneous; synchronism.
2. Coincidence of events that seem to be meaningfully related, conceived in the theory of Carl Jung as an explanatory principle on the same order as causality.
Introduced by Carl Jung and Wolfgang Pauli, this term is used to refer to what could be described as meaningful coincidence; an obvious connection between two apparently (in terms of cause and effect) non-related events.
The concept of synchronicity - when seen in a wider and "esoteric-magical" context - raises strong questions concerning the existence of "coincidence" at all. Before the concept was known by this name, people often referred to such synchronistic events as portents or omens. India and Tibet know a similar concept, called auspicious coincidence (Sanskrit., pratitya-samutpada) and/or interdependent co-origination (Tib., rten-'brel); strongly hinting at the basic definition of synchronicity as a coming together of several factors which, in concert, give rise to a certain situation.
sexyanon2 said:
What isn't in the mind?
Your opinion of those you don't relate to is really low, isn't it? A repeatedly played song (for whatever reason) being stuck in mind and having it play yet again is nothing coincidental nor syncronistic special in the least.
A more accurate hypothetical situation is when you haven't heard the song in a long time, it gets stuck or just played once in mind and then immediately it appears on a radio. What's even more bizarre is when it is up to the exact same place in the song as yourself. Which rarely but does happen.
Linear flow of energy in a non-linear world(or is it vice versa?).
Hmmm... short except of deep thought this is. Perhaps you'd care to explain? Or just leave us in mystery with the few selection of words you've left us (or at least me)
I think yougene (correct me if i'm mistaken) is saying that rather than being orchestrated by other intelligences, we are simply receiving transtemporal signals somehow, which are accessible through a sort of mixed (non uniform) space/time configuration.
The GOD complex is the issue of understanding that there is stuff we don't understand, so it gets labeled as being under GOD's control. Hence the GOD complex. If we don't understand somethng we automatically label it as being controlled by a higher source. It's a stress based reation that we humans have. We're stress based organisms after all. Our entire conciouness is based upon nervous system reactions with external stimuli, also known as 'stress'.
Yeah, David summed it up for me pretty well.
Well, there are many types of understanding. Intellectual understanding, emotional understanding, spiritual understanding and probably more. Just because you guys can't understand what is being said intellectually, it doesn't mean other's do not understand them emotionally, spiritually or otherwise.
Chaos theory = shit happens?
Although, again, I don't know what synchron. means. Perhaps someone could explain and I could delve into this? (or perhaps you want the skeptic out of this convo?
You know what coincidence means?
Well, sometimes, regularly for some, it seems the chances of occurances which are happening when questioned, seem just far too low to be put off simply on chance.
Like the lyrics example above or: Not speaking to nor thinking about an old friend comes to mind and they call; Looking up at a street light a moment before it burns out; A simpsons scene or episode comes to mind and it airs that night or the following; Seeing the time every other day at exactly the same time or seeing the same set of number repeated everywhere you go, etc etc
There are countless examples but most are personal and thus unrelateable without a long story. They get even more bizarre when they happen to more than one person at a time.
sexyanon2
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What's the eye rolly emoticon? 8) ? Anyways, gunna hafta ignore you L2R, as all you're full of is personal attacks.
and i added i'll take it as: just so you wouldn't crap your pants. apparently i was wrong.
If you come to T&A for proof, you are looking in the wrong place.
So we just ask questions and say beliefs w/o justifying or trying to back them up? lol.. ok.
Just because you guys can't understand what is being said intellectually, it doesn't mean other's do not understand them emotionally, spiritually or otherwise.
On the contrar... but I won't waste my time with you. Good day sir.
and i added i'll take it as: just so you wouldn't crap your pants. apparently i was wrong.
If you come to T&A for proof, you are looking in the wrong place.
So we just ask questions and say beliefs w/o justifying or trying to back them up? lol.. ok.
Just because you guys can't understand what is being said intellectually, it doesn't mean other's do not understand them emotionally, spiritually or otherwise.
On the contrar... but I won't waste my time with you. Good day sir.
ebola?
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>> Just because you guys can't understand what is being said intellectually, it doesn't mean other's do not understand them emotionally, spiritually or otherwise.
On the contrar... but I won't waste my time with you. >>
Bracketing aside the overall hostility that has developed, we have an interesting avenue of exploration. What is the structure of our epistemology? Can understanding be reached through different methods? What bearing do the methods have on the form of "knowledge"? What is the interplay between the methods?
ebola [too stoned to mod or post]
On the contrar... but I won't waste my time with you. >>
Bracketing aside the overall hostility that has developed, we have an interesting avenue of exploration. What is the structure of our epistemology? Can understanding be reached through different methods? What bearing do the methods have on the form of "knowledge"? What is the interplay between the methods?
ebola [too stoned to mod or post]
everythinginside
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1. Human Experience is subjective, through sensory apparatus, such as sight, sound, touch, taste, smell... which cycle information into our brains, which then becomes felt, then judged, then interpretted, then acted upon. We need stimulus to be have any kind of experience.
this is what i know
I don't disagree that it's all in mind. But from this statement, I have to jump to what Left to Right said,
There is something more, and it does lie in the personal realm.
Tool - Third Eye... even if they were just saying it, I believe it holds truth. "We're all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're just the imagination of ourselves."
Replace we with I, subtract 'all'... or just interchange the words completely, and come up with your own interpretation of yourself/your own religion and dogma.
I'm high.
this is what i know
I don't disagree that it's all in mind. But from this statement, I have to jump to what Left to Right said,
There is something more, and it does lie in the personal realm.
Tool - Third Eye... even if they were just saying it, I believe it holds truth. "We're all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're just the imagination of ourselves."
Replace we with I, subtract 'all'... or just interchange the words completely, and come up with your own interpretation of yourself/your own religion and dogma.
I'm high.
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John Candy
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^^ They weren't just saying it....Bill Hicks actually said it, and I am sure that they agree with him 100%
everythinginside
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thanks for sealing my reference, nobody can argue with bill hicks
sexyanon2
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"We're all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there's no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we're just the imagination of ourselves."
Damn, I've heard tons of people say that.
So is that an analogy between the cells of the human body and the human itself? Alright. Hear me out now. I've got some whack idea that popped into my head.
Now, if humans:universe :: cells:human body, although there is skin/muscle/organs/etc to the human body, so the humans aren't the only thing that make up the universe. However, if some organs fail in the human body, then the human body will fail as well (certain organs).
Now if we're all part of one conscious being, if we all die, what happens to that being? Is it dead too? Or can it still thrive without human experience? Although I guess it can't b/c it's one consciousness that experiences. And how much can planets experience? (although I guess you could argue that they can).
So this one consciousness.. is it throughout the whole universe? Or is it just with us.
What is the structure of our epistemology? Can understanding be reached through different methods? What bearing do the methods have on the form of "knowledge"? What is the interplay between the methods?
Hmm... good question. Going to have to come back to you with that one. Although it's my understanding (i could be wrong) that every thought and idea is attached with an emotion or feeling (as stated by Spinoza).
Although, some emotions can be controlled more than others. Like a fun example from the Matrix is when Trinity is going to die but Neo is blinded by his love for her. She'll die no matter what, but he still tries to save her (although due to some cheesiness of the movie he brings her back to life. nonetheless she dies).
So, are logic/reason most efficient when seperated from emotion?
Can understanding be reached through different methods?
Understanding? On different levels sure. Take for instance, my uncle's wife got pregnant. She miscarried, and they were sad. My mom was able to console them and feel bad for them. My dad, on the other hand, thought w/o emotion and said it was a shame but the baby wasn't alive or anything (it was like a couple weeks old or something).
So, there was understanding on two different levels in that example.
What bearing do the methods have on the form of "knowledge"?
Well, the emotional and logical methods seem to need to be seperated on certain issues. Although, using logic in emotional situations without clouding the logic/reasoning seems to be most efficient.
But, like the example I provided above, logic/reasoning was alone not enough to fully understand the experience.
Hmm.. I don't want to venture out any further without some feedback/responses. So post away (you too ebola).
Damn, I've heard tons of people say that.
So is that an analogy between the cells of the human body and the human itself? Alright. Hear me out now. I've got some whack idea that popped into my head.
Now, if humans:universe :: cells:human body, although there is skin/muscle/organs/etc to the human body, so the humans aren't the only thing that make up the universe. However, if some organs fail in the human body, then the human body will fail as well (certain organs).
Now if we're all part of one conscious being, if we all die, what happens to that being? Is it dead too? Or can it still thrive without human experience? Although I guess it can't b/c it's one consciousness that experiences. And how much can planets experience? (although I guess you could argue that they can).
So this one consciousness.. is it throughout the whole universe? Or is it just with us.
What is the structure of our epistemology? Can understanding be reached through different methods? What bearing do the methods have on the form of "knowledge"? What is the interplay between the methods?
Hmm... good question. Going to have to come back to you with that one. Although it's my understanding (i could be wrong) that every thought and idea is attached with an emotion or feeling (as stated by Spinoza).
Although, some emotions can be controlled more than others. Like a fun example from the Matrix is when Trinity is going to die but Neo is blinded by his love for her. She'll die no matter what, but he still tries to save her (although due to some cheesiness of the movie he brings her back to life. nonetheless she dies).
So, are logic/reason most efficient when seperated from emotion?
Can understanding be reached through different methods?
Understanding? On different levels sure. Take for instance, my uncle's wife got pregnant. She miscarried, and they were sad. My mom was able to console them and feel bad for them. My dad, on the other hand, thought w/o emotion and said it was a shame but the baby wasn't alive or anything (it was like a couple weeks old or something).
So, there was understanding on two different levels in that example.
What bearing do the methods have on the form of "knowledge"?
Well, the emotional and logical methods seem to need to be seperated on certain issues. Although, using logic in emotional situations without clouding the logic/reasoning seems to be most efficient.
But, like the example I provided above, logic/reasoning was alone not enough to fully understand the experience.
Hmm.. I don't want to venture out any further without some feedback/responses. So post away (you too ebola
).
everythinginside
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Sexy, you forgot there's no such thing as 'death'...
hehe. ...
however, there is a part of the cycle, that we like to call death, because it's a corner we can't see around. We like to make up stories as to what happens afterwards, but 'no-body' really knows.
umm.. I certainly don't think that we're the only sentient being's in the universe, either.. or the only reflective entities.. or whatever... umm..
i will have to come back and edit this post.
hehe. ...
however, there is a part of the cycle, that we like to call death, because it's a corner we can't see around. We like to make up stories as to what happens afterwards, but 'no-body' really knows.
umm.. I certainly don't think that we're the only sentient being's in the universe, either.. or the only reflective entities.. or whatever... umm..
i will have to come back and edit this post.
War Pig
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glad to hear everyone had something to say, rather extensively
War Pig
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when you die, youre dead, period.
MynameisnotDeja
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michael said:
Sure..its called a lot of things. Nothing wrong with recognizing the beautiful little amazing things about life. People say stuff like "its called coincedence" as if using that word makes it any less amazing. I dont get that.
MynameisnotDeja
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War Pig said:
That really depends on what you think the word "dead" means..
The body dies..that is a fact..but what happens to the spirit afterwards..is totally subject to opinion..and no one really knows.