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Kid B

Kid B

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Strictly out of curiosity, I have a few questions.

What is the 'acknowledged' full progression of marijuana distribution?
let's say:

dime..gram....eighth.......quarter.......ounce..........qp...........................pound.................? quarter ton? ton? and then? 10tons?


I guess the question really is how much comes from straight from the largest producers? This question can probably be answered by looking on the internet, but I am on the internet now..so I guess it is fair to pose the question here.


This is interesting in considering the marijuana industry as a whole. I see it as very scattered, probably due to prohibition and the homegrown nature of the product. So then another question, how does the industry actually function?


Just like any other market of goods, just on a non-determined non-regulated level, i guess.. prices do vary considerably across different geographic regions. Now how would this change if legalization or at least decriminalization occurred? Competition and consolidation or chaos?

Lots of questions..I am sure others have already posed them. Sorry UTFSE meh


edit1: I understand that it is legal or controlled in some areas. Dispensaries in California, medical facilities, that sort of thing. I am talking about say the NE, or America as a whole maybe. I think globally it is really hard to analyze..

edit 2: Some people liken marijuana laws to Prohibition and such..I'm not sure if it is fair to characterize them the same way. Alcohol is 'objectively' more dangerous and used in a different way. For instance, in theory (I am not this old), if you are 23 you don't necessarily drink while walking down the street but..
 
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yeah like i don't know, is that ridiculous? maybe..

wow, it feels fucking weird making threads
 
right, so how much total weed, available to sell and consume, comes from 25,000 plants approximately? and what do they sell in? i imagine they don't do nickels and dimes..


anyone have any hypothetical expertise?
 
Kid B said:
right, so how much total weed, available to sell and consume, comes from 25,000 plants approximately? and what do they sell in? i imagine they don't do nickels and dimes..


anyone have any hypothetical expertise?
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They would have thousands of pounds yield.

They would be selling thousands, or hundreds of pounds.
 
Kid B said:
http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/newsroom...s/2008_news_releases/july_2008/07312008_3.xml
another one, both drivers were moving over a ton apparently..summer 2008
they were also both Mexican, so maybe Mexican dealers move more?

they cultivate by the TON down there, or what?


edit1: If I need to stop asking questions, please tell me.
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Yeah the climate in Mexico allows for more outdoor cultivation and big crops, whereas in Canada you can do one outdoor crop per year, and the rest is indoor.

Quality over quantity I guess.
 
You seem to be misunderstood about the possibilities of agriculture. How cannabis flows throughout North America is a very interesting and complex topic. I'll give as much advice as I can based on my experiences.

Generally there are two different types of operations, quantitative and qualitative, and they either have 2 purposes, self-interest or funding non-drug related crime. The quantitative growers will try and grow the best weed possible, and are usually the underground indoor growers (though outdoor growers are also present) growing for the sole purpose to make money and )possibly get really ripped), selling to a trust few, usually anywhere between 1-5 people who will usually get fronted kilos (or more or less depending on the available space) and return with profits. This is most common in more densely populated areas with greater law enforcement prescence. From there it is ferried to smaller full-time dealers buying lbs at a time that usually pay, though some good relations allow fronts. From there it is to smaller ounce buying dealers, and from there to plain smokers or one time dealers. Street gangs and organized crime rings usually deal, though they are the ones usually getting busted because so many people know about it, and are usually underground.
However in places mentioned like Mexico, outdoor agricultural dealing for mass quantities is present due to the lack of law enforcement and government detection technology. By growing as much weed as economically possible and utilizing demand in further distances, a great profit can be made (this is the most riskiest method). The distribution is almost the same as above, though inside people are almost always exlusively used even at lower levels.
That would be a shit load of weed. Do you know how quick most of that stuff would go bad?
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You're awfully ignorant of the drug trade, ever heard of vacuum sealing?
 
auto238367 said:
You have no idea how much weed Canadian's smoke. Plus we have to supply much of America.
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True. But australians smoke a fair bit too. I think we only just trail behind jamaica but i could be wrong. I wsih id have moed to the states or canada now instead of Australia. Theres so much to do there. Plus i could meet jessica alba...
 
As far as progression goes, it works like this in Australia. Someone else posted something similar in another thread but i could find it:

Stick/$25 - small bags that are usually around a gram. If i buy a stick i usually get .9 without the baggies. Technically, they arnt measured by weight though. I think its just how stingy the dealer is really. You might also find doilys and shit wrapped in foil but Iv never bought that before. Usually you can find larger amounts that way though.

$50 - again, not really measured by the size but its usually around 2.5-4 grams in my experience. Most likely to be around 3.

I find that alot of the dealers around here, or at least the ones i know (which isnt many) don't like to sell quarter ounces. Might be to do with the fact that they are terrible with the maths, as stated by the BL'er i would have quoted this from, but they will sell halves and full ounces.

Half Ounce: never actually bought a half ounce myself, usually keep my quantities small but iv heard them go for anywhere between 130-190. Depends on who you know i guess.

Ounces: I only bought an ounce once and that was $300. It weighed in at 27.6 grams which was close enough in my opinion. In the end, i cut it up and sold sticks from it anyway coz i couldnt smoke for a while. I got it through a friend and it was the only time that i got hold of some grass that seemed like it was mostly Sativa. It makes sense tho, the guy i buy sticks from is small time and doent care about his strains as long as the cash comes in. the guy i got an ounce from knew/worked closely with a grower and was probably moving pounds and kilos making loads of cash and had the good shit. I guess in a way, more is... more. Lol

Pounds: Unavailable unless you know the grower himself and can put up a fair bit of dough to outbid the other dealers.

But thats Australia, im guessin things wont be that differnt, just new names for the bags lol.
 
If what you say is true, the Australian weed industry is pitiful as hell!
 
kultron said:
If what you say is true, the Australian weed industry is pitiful as hell!
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Haha come on, he tried man..
Yeah it is interesting, things work differently in different geographic regions I guess. No one here sells 'sticks.'
Now look, is the industry in AUS self contained or are there massive imports? How much is coming in, theoretically?


Wow, what an interesting thread. It's almost as if I wrote it :\
 
You guys are right, the Australian industry is pitiful.

We don't get a choice of what we buy, its either hydroponic or bush (outdoor).

Most dealers in capital cities prefer to sell larger quantities, half ounce or quarters running 190 for a half, 80-90 for quarters.

IMO, sticks or (I dont know what americans call them, dime bags?), usually 1 gram, 1.5g of weed for $25.. they are a waste of money, generally very stingy small deals.

One very common trait i've realised is that smaller deals are generally done indirect, through friends of dealers.. it can make for big delays to get erb sometimes :(.

Your best bang for buck in OZ is buying ounces/half ounces of outdoor grown herb. IMO the stone is much better, the climate allows for larger yields and it is generally sativa blends (which I prefer). Ive bought some very decent half OZ of bush for $150.


We are a large country with a small population.. probably why prices are higher and there is less variety.
 
^^^ well put.

As for importing weed, im not sure that theres alot coming in. Because of our climate, most of our weed is grown here. As far as i know anyway.

Dark Ambience said:
IMO, sticks or (I dont know what americans call them, dime bags?), usually 1 gram, 1.5g of weed for $25.. they are a waste of money, generally very stingy small deals.
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Your mostly right. I usually buy sticks because i purposely try and keep my tolerance low and i will just smoke until my stash is gone. Iv bought some pretty bad sticks before but I also found a place through a freind that is really good. You sometimes come across a house or dealer that will stuff like 2grams into those tiny bags and the weed is really good. Its rare but it happens.

Where abouts are you livin DA?
 
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