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Heroin Questions about Heroin

gonewithagrin

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First off I wanna say highh to the bluelight community. I've been referencing this site for years for info but never got around to joining.

Recently I just started to iv heroin. I've been hooked on script opiates for years and was cut off, so I picked up some heroin. Pls I don't wanna hear anyone telling me not to do it, I know the consequences.

I don't have any friends who do the stuff, so basically I learned to iv from reading bluelight and watching vidoes, this has left me with many questions I will list now.

Sorry if the answers to some of these are already on the site. I've most likely tried looking it up already and want it answered more specifically if possible.

1. I can visibly see my veins really well, but sometimes when I stick the needle in and draw back all I get is air. What happened? Don't think I went through the vein, but I can't see how I didn't make it into it..

2. The heroin I buy is all the black tar kind, but sometimes it can be really white and have a lot of powerish residue which I'm guessing is what they cut it with. Anyways, is this the kind of heroin that needs to be dissolved with citric? It does do a pretty good job dissolving on it's own, but there's also a good amount of particles left over that I cook again and shoot but I can't get it all even when I use the acid.

3. Is it normal for some black particles to remain after cooking?

4. I've used citric a few times, maybe I added too much but is it supposed to burn when you inject?

5. Is granulated citric okay?

6. I'm on blood thinner medication, warfarin, does this make iving heroin worse for me?

7. Is it okay to use veins that are on top of big muscles? Seems like every time I try it hurt like hell.

8. I don't have a scale so I can't weigh it out, I do around 1cc at a time and get pretty buzzed, but it takes about 3ccs to get me really high and start to nod off. I take it that might be normal for someone with my opiate tolerance, I can pop about 10 norcos at a time, but how much do you guys need to get a good nod?

9. My heroin is either black or whitish brown like I said previously, but when I cook it, it turns to a clear yellow. In the syringe it looks like a somewhat milky yellow color. From the videos I've viewed, some people's heroin color is a dark brown or even a black color. Am I doing something wrong not getting a darker color?

10. I'm from the bay area of cali in the east. I've tried to look up needle exchanges but was unsuccessful. Does anyone know of where to get them out here or stores that will sell them? I am also unsuccessful at finding sterile water as well have been boiling mine up.

I know that's a lot of crap but thanks to anyone who helps and I'm glad to finally have joined.
 
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Anyone? Does it mean my heroin is shit if it's not black in the syringe? I try to add as much as I can and what remains I add more water to and shoot up again..
 
If you're doing a tar shot and the color isn't brown or black I'd say quality might not be good. The only tar that reaches my area all cooks black or a very dark brown. If its a heavy shot like .25 its usually so dark I can't see the numbers on the syringe. BTW you shouldn't need to use citric to break it down... Just water is fine for me.
 
1. I can visibly see my veins really well, but sometimes when I stick the needle in and draw back all I get is air. What happened? Don't think I went through the vein, but I can't see how I didn't make it into it..

Hitting a vein is more difficult than it seems. What I like to do is go very slowly at a very shallow angle. Upon entry, I usually do not see a register. However, I very gradually pull the syringe out, looking carefully for a register. This is when I usually hit my vein. You should see a register WITHOUT aspirating. Half way through the injection, then you aspirate to ensure you are still in the vein.

So, again, if you do not see a register, you are not in a vein. Period. Visible veins are deceiving, so I know where you're coming from. Injection techniques will come with time. No one is perfect when they start. Just please, do not reuse your needles - the includes pulling out and trying again with the same point. This will effectively destroy those nice, visible veins you currently have.

2. The heroin I buy is all the black tar kind, but sometimes it can be really white and have a lot of powerish residue which I'm guessing is what they cut it with. Anyways, is this the kind of heroin that needs to be dissolved with citric? It does do a pretty good job dissolving on it's own, but there's also a good amount of particles left over that I cook again and shoot but I can't get it all even when I use the acid.

That's strange. Sounds like you need a better source for your gear.

3. Is it normal for some black particles to remain after cooking?

In my experience, yes. It's an impurity, so wash it off the spoon.

4. I've used citric a few times, maybe I added too much but is it supposed to burn when you inject?

I don't believe It should burn. I've shot crack, broken down with lemon juice, and it did not burn, but it's been so long I'm not positive on that, to be honest.

You may also be only partially hitting your vein, which may cause that sensation. Again, the injection technique will come; it's very easy to be partially in and partially out of the vein.

5. Is granulated citric okay?


No idea. I've never heard of cooking with citric.

6. I'm on blood thinner medication, warfarin, does this make iving heroin worse for me?

I don't know. If your blood is running thin, you may bleed out of injection sites rather easily, but I have no idea what I'm talking about

7. Is it okay to use veins that are on top of big muscles? Seems like every time I try it hurt like hell.

Yeah. It shouldn't burn...sounds like you're missing part of your shot. Stick (but rotate) to crooks of arms and underside of arms, if you can.

8. I don't have a scale so I can't weigh it out, I do around 1cc at a time and get pretty buzzed, but it takes about 3ccs to get me really high and start to nod off. I take it that might be normal for someone with my opiate tolerance, I can pop about 10 norcos at a time, but how much do you guys need to get a good nod?

This is a tough answer. Heroin varies in purity so vastly state to state, region to region, town to town, dealer to dealer. This is what makes IV heroin so dangerous. Some dude with a tolerance, goes to a different guy, shoots the same amount, dies from OD. It happens. Be conservative. You can always do more, you can never do less. I've almost died a few times from IV heroin. "just a little more". If I didn't have someone by my side that afternoon, I would be dead.

9. My heroin is either black or whitish brown like I said previously, but when I cook it, it turns to a clear yellow. In the syringe it looks like a somewhat milky yellow color. From the videos I've viewed, some people's heroin color is a dark brown or even a black color. Am I doing something wrong not getting a darker color?

Darker brown / black solution is a more potent shot, is all. All of my shots I've ever taken were a milky yellow.

10. I'm from the bay area of cali in the east. I've tried to look up needle exchanges but was unsuccessful. Does anyone know of where to get them out here or stores that will sell them? I am also unsuccessful at finding sterile water as well have been boiling mine up.

Edit your area code out immediately. I'll PM you an online store that will have them at your doorstep for the cheaps in 3 business days. Otherwise, walmart has a no ask policy.

Also, good job on asking questions and being conservative with your drug use. Most idiots will jump into it blindly and stab themselves for days, wondering why they haven't hit a vein. I know because I was one of them (I was young, dammnit)




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1. Just because you can see your veins, doesn't mean you're going to hit automatically. You still have to go in at the right angle, make sure you don't slip, out etc. If you are not registering blood, you are not in the vein, simple as that. It could either be because you went through or didn't go in at all.

2. You do not use citric acid to break down black tar. Just dissolve it in water and stir.

3. Yes, it's normal to have residue left over, especially with BTH

4. Again, do not use citric acid, and no it is not supposed to burn at all when you IV. If you feel any pain at all (with or without citric acid, it doesn't matter) you are not in the vein and are missing.

5. Again, no citric acid. That is only used for freebase heroin found in the UK

6. That'll just make you bleed more

7. Yes that's fine, but it can be painful. Make sure you are not tensing your muscles when you stick the needle in.

8. You do 1 cc? Takes you 3cc's to get high? You do realize that 1cc=1ml.. 1ml is an entire syringe full... What kind of needles are you using? Did you mean "units" not cc's? Either way, you do not measure heroin doses by how much liquid. You measure them by the quanitity of H you are IV'ing, like a point, bag, whatever the term is for what you buy where you are.

9. Different batches of H will look different in a solution.. it all depends on the quality, what its cut with, etc. Also, you do not need to use heat to dissolve heroin, even BTH. It is freely soluble in water and all you're doing by cooking it is allowing the cuts to dissolve into your mix. Not good.

10. You need to look up the laws in your state/county. Depending on what they are, pharmacies may sell them OTC.
 
Yeah that's what I'm thinking I hardly even feel a rush at all but I'm struggling finding it because I know no one who sells the shit and the blacks in the hood seem to be really stingy. Thanks for your reply!
 
I edited it out. Thanks for the link and that's great I have a walmart near by! Lol I did the same. I actually had some oral morphine liquid that I tried to iv at first and I ended up with a huge, blue sore for a few days. I didn't realize iving was so hard. Thanks a lot for your reply, it's really informative and helped me out a bunch!! Just shot up and I hit the vein on the first try =D
 
Thanks for your reply bro! I messed up on the dosage it's about a full 2 syringes to make me nod out. It's hard to say I don't really know what they call it. Like I said I have no friends who use H so I had to go on a mission to find it. First I picked up some junkies which I know isn't advised, then I started asking black dudes.

So far I've been buying like 50 or 40 bucks worth at a time and everyone gives me a different amount. One guy gave me 4 bags for 50, another gave me a single little bag so I don't know how much I'm doing exactly I should probably invest in a little scale.

That's interesting. I heard from a video that since H is an organic material it needs to be heated up because it might have bacteria in it. I'll try it without the heat now tho thanks again!!
 
So it takes you two injections of an entire syringe full of dope to get where you want to be?

You're either doing something very very wrong... or you have absolutely horrible dope, because that makes zero sense.
 
So it takes you two injections of an entire syringe full of dope to get where you want to be?

You're either doing something very very wrong... or you have absolutely horrible dope, because that makes zero sense.

Yeah I think I'm just getting horrible shit or something idk. I just did a full syringe and I'm barely buzzed. Like I said I do have a pretty high tolerance tho so maybe that has something to do with it too but this last dope I got is all white it's not brown at all. Got it from some blacks in the hood...
 
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