jeebies444
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Long time lurker - first time poster. Will be somewhat of a long post but any and all guidance from those more experienced in this space would be v much appreciated.
Background context: I am a 30 year old male, 220 pounds, and have been recreationally/therapeutically using DXM on and off for approximately 15 years now. However the last year and a half has been my most prolonged consistent use. For the years prior to that I would occasionally (2 to 4 times a year) take a ~300mg dose, which at the time would be somewhere around 3mg/kg for me or somewhere in the middle of the 2nd plateau.
My most recent regiment and stack is as follows:
180-270mg DXM split out in 2-3 doses (60-90mg every 4 to 6 hours)
200mg caffeine
4-8mg nicotine
1g l-theanine
I have been taking this stack more or less daily for the last 4 months, taking a tolerance break every Sunday but have not really taken any tolerance breaks longer than 72 hours during this time period. This stack allows me to feel a general sense of warm euphoria, connectedness, alignment with what we could generally describe as higher/loftier virtues of consciousness (love, service to God/source/consciousness and those around us, humor, playfulness etc. etc.), and an incredibly consistent and reliable ability to focus and concentrate intensely on whatever it is I'm working on or whoever I'm present with. Just a complete and total sense of effortless presence in every endeavor or encounter. The issue I've been running into is that I have observed that over this time period I will generally uptick the dosage of DXM to maintain a certain level of potency where I feel almost too disinhibited and untethered from true material reality, just a general sense of excessively prolonged lack of groundedness. In this state, I feel it incredibly difficult to maintain presence and lucidity in what's going on around me in a literal material sense and this presents itself in a couple of different ways. I come off as scatterbrained, my speech is slurred and/or strained, I have a difficult time fully comprehending or maintaining attention on whatever is happening in that current point in time, essentially the exact opposite of the enjoyable heightened awareness state I mostly find myself in most of the time when taking this stack.
I have a series of questions for anyone and everyone here who's more well versed in the pharmacology of DXM and related dissociatives. My primary concern is that this prolonged use at the dosages I've mentioned above may have long term detrimental neurocognitive side effects. Is my issue that I'm just not taking sufficiently long enough tolerance breaks to allow myself to return to more "grounded" baselines when fully sober? Are there other practices (breathwork for example?) that I can supplement here that will help balance things? Is there perhaps another dissociative that I should consider exploring that has similar positive effects to DXM without some of the more unsavory side effects that I've mentioned? Is it possible to maintain this psuedo-microdosing regiment indefinitely, or is this really not sustainable long term and I need to strongly consider finding a practice not rooted in supplementing dissociative substances and follow the age old McKenna adage of hanging up the phone once I've gotten the message?
I have heard of several accounts where at some point or another many Dexheads eventually reach a point in their dynamic with the substance where the "magic" just wears off and they graduate to something else to acquire the same effect. Again - any insights you all may share would be sincerely appreciated!
Background context: I am a 30 year old male, 220 pounds, and have been recreationally/therapeutically using DXM on and off for approximately 15 years now. However the last year and a half has been my most prolonged consistent use. For the years prior to that I would occasionally (2 to 4 times a year) take a ~300mg dose, which at the time would be somewhere around 3mg/kg for me or somewhere in the middle of the 2nd plateau.
My most recent regiment and stack is as follows:
180-270mg DXM split out in 2-3 doses (60-90mg every 4 to 6 hours)
200mg caffeine
4-8mg nicotine
1g l-theanine
I have been taking this stack more or less daily for the last 4 months, taking a tolerance break every Sunday but have not really taken any tolerance breaks longer than 72 hours during this time period. This stack allows me to feel a general sense of warm euphoria, connectedness, alignment with what we could generally describe as higher/loftier virtues of consciousness (love, service to God/source/consciousness and those around us, humor, playfulness etc. etc.), and an incredibly consistent and reliable ability to focus and concentrate intensely on whatever it is I'm working on or whoever I'm present with. Just a complete and total sense of effortless presence in every endeavor or encounter. The issue I've been running into is that I have observed that over this time period I will generally uptick the dosage of DXM to maintain a certain level of potency where I feel almost too disinhibited and untethered from true material reality, just a general sense of excessively prolonged lack of groundedness. In this state, I feel it incredibly difficult to maintain presence and lucidity in what's going on around me in a literal material sense and this presents itself in a couple of different ways. I come off as scatterbrained, my speech is slurred and/or strained, I have a difficult time fully comprehending or maintaining attention on whatever is happening in that current point in time, essentially the exact opposite of the enjoyable heightened awareness state I mostly find myself in most of the time when taking this stack.
I have a series of questions for anyone and everyone here who's more well versed in the pharmacology of DXM and related dissociatives. My primary concern is that this prolonged use at the dosages I've mentioned above may have long term detrimental neurocognitive side effects. Is my issue that I'm just not taking sufficiently long enough tolerance breaks to allow myself to return to more "grounded" baselines when fully sober? Are there other practices (breathwork for example?) that I can supplement here that will help balance things? Is there perhaps another dissociative that I should consider exploring that has similar positive effects to DXM without some of the more unsavory side effects that I've mentioned? Is it possible to maintain this psuedo-microdosing regiment indefinitely, or is this really not sustainable long term and I need to strongly consider finding a practice not rooted in supplementing dissociative substances and follow the age old McKenna adage of hanging up the phone once I've gotten the message?
I have heard of several accounts where at some point or another many Dexheads eventually reach a point in their dynamic with the substance where the "magic" just wears off and they graduate to something else to acquire the same effect. Again - any insights you all may share would be sincerely appreciated!
