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question about lsd flashback
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Energysausage
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You usually only (from what I have read anyway) get acid flashbacks from really traumatic LSD trips, so unless you have had a really horrible, bad trip that left you emotionally scarred you'll probably be fine. Flashbacks are a symptom of PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) and don't actually have anything to do with the chemical LSD at all. Basically you can get flashbacks from any traumatic experience, be it a car accident or a emotionally crushing LSD trip.
Plus I think I read that only 1% of users experience/have experienced an LSD flashback, so it doesn't seem to much a very pressing concern. If you ask me HPPD seems much more troubling than flashbacks.
But as I have no first hand experience with LSD (yet, I plan to when it's possible) you're probably better off getting info from a more experienced user.
Plus I think I read that only 1% of users experience/have experienced an LSD flashback, so it doesn't seem to much a very pressing concern. If you ask me HPPD seems much more troubling than flashbacks.
But as I have no first hand experience with LSD (yet, I plan to when it's possible) you're probably better off getting info from a more experienced user.
jason7
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It would be nice if I COULD get a flashback. It would be like a free trip. Never happened though. Sometimes when I'd wake up in the middle of the night and it was still dark I would see like a little clown head in front of me. That stopped happening after a while off acid. Kind of cool though. That was a nifty lil clown head right there.
Here's something else on a drug related subject. When I was using hash daily I wouldn't even really have any dreams, least none I could remember. Now that I quit for about a month I have vivid and weird dreams. Last night I was in various alien landscapes. Very realistic but completely alien, like a large area of undulating mounds that were sort of lava colored and looked like they had a leathery texture. Then I went on a particularly high one and there was a handprint in some green moldlike stuff that was growing on it, but it was bigger than a normal hand. I instinctively knew that it was ancient and had been there since time immemorial. I could picture a Moses type guy making it. It had some very profound meaning.
Then in another one I climbed up on this really high but very flimsy metal shelving and I said to myself this thing isn't gonna hold. Sure enough, it starting collapsing. Then it skipped to me standing on the ground perfectly okay. I wondered if I had fallen flat down or perhaps had rolled out of it. I then realized that I was Roger Moore and I had been up there with Pierce Brosnan and I was wondering how someone could have been so negligent as to let both of us James Bonds be on such a flimsy set of shelving. See what I mean? Weird as hell. I gotta start smoking hash again cuz this dreaming shit is very disturbing.
Another one was me being in a real life Dawn of the Dead type zombie land and the zombies could always find me no matter where I hid. How did they always know? I never got really scared though. If you get scared it will only make them go after you more. I'm so used to scary dreams now that nothing really gets to me anymore. My brain is good at thinking up new scary stuff though for dreams. You just get kind of jaded about it after a while though and you don't even bother panicking anymore. So some rats keep biting you, so what. Sure it stings but you just take it.
Here's something else on a drug related subject. When I was using hash daily I wouldn't even really have any dreams, least none I could remember. Now that I quit for about a month I have vivid and weird dreams. Last night I was in various alien landscapes. Very realistic but completely alien, like a large area of undulating mounds that were sort of lava colored and looked like they had a leathery texture. Then I went on a particularly high one and there was a handprint in some green moldlike stuff that was growing on it, but it was bigger than a normal hand. I instinctively knew that it was ancient and had been there since time immemorial. I could picture a Moses type guy making it. It had some very profound meaning.
Then in another one I climbed up on this really high but very flimsy metal shelving and I said to myself this thing isn't gonna hold. Sure enough, it starting collapsing. Then it skipped to me standing on the ground perfectly okay. I wondered if I had fallen flat down or perhaps had rolled out of it. I then realized that I was Roger Moore and I had been up there with Pierce Brosnan and I was wondering how someone could have been so negligent as to let both of us James Bonds be on such a flimsy set of shelving. See what I mean? Weird as hell. I gotta start smoking hash again cuz this dreaming shit is very disturbing.
Another one was me being in a real life Dawn of the Dead type zombie land and the zombies could always find me no matter where I hid. How did they always know? I never got really scared though. If you get scared it will only make them go after you more. I'm so used to scary dreams now that nothing really gets to me anymore. My brain is good at thinking up new scary stuff though for dreams. You just get kind of jaded about it after a while though and you don't even bother panicking anymore. So some rats keep biting you, so what. Sure it stings but you just take it.
sekio
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Flashbacks aren't intrinsic to acid, they are intrinsic to stressful/emotionally charged events. Kind of like a form of PTSD.
A lot of people also see similarities between fainting/low blood pressure, or the cannabis experience and LSD, and can often mistake the former for the latter. ("when I smoke weed it makes me feel like i'm tripping again!!!")
A lot of people also see similarities between fainting/low blood pressure, or the cannabis experience and LSD, and can often mistake the former for the latter. ("when I smoke weed it makes me feel like i'm tripping again!!!")
i sometimes get "flashbacks" from hearing certain parts of certain songs, and associating them with the good feelings from my trip/roll at the time. its like a free good trip or roll, but only for a few seconds. "flashbacks" dont have to occur because of negative experiences, although ive had those too
thoughtsUnThought
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I kind of picture any remembering of an event is a flash of sorts...so an intense exp like a trip naturally has a trippy rainbow coloured flash lol.
Depending on how you integrate your exps will vary how you associate with that memory. If you integrate the exp well the emotions connected to it get bound in a tidy manner, if you do not (whether by conscious negligence or trauma from the exp) then recalling this memory releases a whirlwind of emotions and thoughts which were never fully made sense of ...its all association in the neuro patterns. What you will receive in your present from reflecting on your exps (whether consciously pondering on them, or sporadically having some minute association to the memory) is dependent on how well you've digested the exp (ie how you currently associate the memory).
I believe this is the correlation to trauma as mentioned above, trauma is something shocking to the extent that we are left not at peace with the memory and are unable to rationalize and fully integrate it harmoniously. In terms of trips I don't think trauma is necessarily always from bad trip events, there could be a moment of bliss or puzzling excitement which is left unintegrated and never fully rationalizable by our minds. These unfinished associations are where 'flashback' potential lies I believe.
That's my thoughts on it at least.
To op, if your current regimen of use is leaving you hesitant about potential perceptual aftereffects, then maybe that is your cue to tone it down a notch... ? I tripped a lot and was not made into an 'acid casualty' as they say, but the tripped out aftereffects I received for the years following my heavy tripping (more than you're saying, probably 5–6x a month for a few years at least)practices were trippy and noticeable enough to freak out most people.
Best wishes, all will be well. Do what you know to be right
And meditate to integrate the madness experienced in the psychedelic strata...!
Depending on how you integrate your exps will vary how you associate with that memory. If you integrate the exp well the emotions connected to it get bound in a tidy manner, if you do not (whether by conscious negligence or trauma from the exp) then recalling this memory releases a whirlwind of emotions and thoughts which were never fully made sense of ...its all association in the neuro patterns. What you will receive in your present from reflecting on your exps (whether consciously pondering on them, or sporadically having some minute association to the memory) is dependent on how well you've digested the exp (ie how you currently associate the memory).
I believe this is the correlation to trauma as mentioned above, trauma is something shocking to the extent that we are left not at peace with the memory and are unable to rationalize and fully integrate it harmoniously. In terms of trips I don't think trauma is necessarily always from bad trip events, there could be a moment of bliss or puzzling excitement which is left unintegrated and never fully rationalizable by our minds. These unfinished associations are where 'flashback' potential lies I believe.
That's my thoughts on it at least.
To op, if your current regimen of use is leaving you hesitant about potential perceptual aftereffects, then maybe that is your cue to tone it down a notch... ? I tripped a lot and was not made into an 'acid casualty' as they say, but the tripped out aftereffects I received for the years following my heavy tripping (more than you're saying, probably 5–6x a month for a few years at least)practices were trippy and noticeable enough to freak out most people.
Best wishes, all will be well. Do what you know to be right
And meditate to integrate the madness experienced in the psychedelic strata...!
Foreigner
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I'm not sure I believe in LSD flashbacks. If anything an association is just being triggered, but you're not tripping.
no, not fully tripping in the sense of having a psychedelic in you. as in i dont get visuals or auditory distortions when i have a "flashback". but tripping isnt just about seeing stuff, its a mindstate that can be achieved without psychedelics through other things such as meditation, fasting, sensory deprivation, etc...
PriestTheyCalledHim
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A flashback is like this. I've known people who had them and they have never taken LSD.
Jesusgreen
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Edit: I posted this while a little tired, ignore the fact I directed this to you as if you'd never tried acid. I seemingly can't read today! Doh! 
One thing the others have failed to mention, though there's a good chance you already know this, is that unless you're taking incredibly high doses, while visuals can be quite colourful and intense, if you had a visual flashback it's not like you wouldn't see the road in front of you - it'd just be much more colourful, the borders of cars might look wavy, you might notice some fractal patterns on the car or road in front - etc.
Flashbacks are rather rare, and mostly related to the feelings rather than the visuals too, e.g. if you had a bad trip in a forest on a psychedelic, returning to the same forest at the same time of day might freak you out and really scare you quite bad - or if you have a wonderful trip at the top of a hill watching the sun rise, doing it again will fill you with a warm nostalgic glow.
Your question is one that initially put me off trying psychedelics - I expected psychedelics to result in me seeing a completely different version of the world, and thought one day I'd be driving and the world would completely change resulting in me crashing. The truth is though, psychedelic visuals are a lot less intense than many people expect after the stories they've been taught about at school - and aside from VERY high doses, or smoked DMT, I've yet to encounter a trip that significantly altered my reality enough that having a few seconds flashback would cause me to crash.
One thing the others have failed to mention, though there's a good chance you already know this, is that unless you're taking incredibly high doses, while visuals can be quite colourful and intense, if you had a visual flashback it's not like you wouldn't see the road in front of you - it'd just be much more colourful, the borders of cars might look wavy, you might notice some fractal patterns on the car or road in front - etc.
Flashbacks are rather rare, and mostly related to the feelings rather than the visuals too, e.g. if you had a bad trip in a forest on a psychedelic, returning to the same forest at the same time of day might freak you out and really scare you quite bad - or if you have a wonderful trip at the top of a hill watching the sun rise, doing it again will fill you with a warm nostalgic glow.
Your question is one that initially put me off trying psychedelics - I expected psychedelics to result in me seeing a completely different version of the world, and thought one day I'd be driving and the world would completely change resulting in me crashing. The truth is though, psychedelic visuals are a lot less intense than many people expect after the stories they've been taught about at school - and aside from VERY high doses, or smoked DMT, I've yet to encounter a trip that significantly altered my reality enough that having a few seconds flashback would cause me to crash.
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HCandKROD
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I grew up in the 70's and early 80's. The acid back then averaged around 175 to 250 mic's. The acid nowadays isn't nearly as strong. I digress. I tripped on the conservative side 100 times on LSD, 50 times on Mescaline and 5 times on Peyote. I now have severe panic attacks and agoraphobia. I can't say this is due to tripping but I have a strong suspicion it is. My advice is stop tripping so much. Even if it is shitty acid you are going way too much. Take it from an old burnout!!! Easy