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Question about long term frequent cannabis use

Seattle_Stranger said:
I've had sleep problems my whole life due to a restless mind. My mind likes to wonder, a lot. It doesn't have an off button and sometimes I have trouble controlling it. I wonder if I have ADHD or something like that. I can't believe I'm considering this as a possibility...
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thats all from smokin bud im in the same position. i have ADD and it has been made a lot worse from weed. and i have anxiety disorder which was also made worse by weed: very negative thought loops, not being able to get over stuff, feeling disconnected, and not being able to know why you cant control your head.

take a break. give it a month and youll be a happy man.
 
Well, I've only been smoking habitually for about a year now, and only smoked a handful of times before that. Since infancy, my parents tell me how I would NEVER sleep, and it still shows as I get older. I never am able to just shut my mind off, it just runs wild. There are several times throughout the day where I'll be like "why the hell did I just think about that?" The most random things will pop into my head and distract me. This has been going on long before I knew what weed was.

If anything, the weed helps me sleep (obviously) but without weed it's that much more difficult.
 
Yeah weed changes alot of peopless views on life for the better or the worse .

I think the same things as you .

Best thing is stop smoking for a while
 
I was smoking practically every day (and usually more than once per day) for about three months pretty recently, and I found that the cannabis come-down after a while started to depress me, specifically with regard to the negative introspection that would often accompany the fading high while I was by myself.

I'd recommend stopping smoking for at least a few weeks. And when (if) you start up again, try using the weed as an enhancer rather than an activity in of itself. Smoke with friends, at movies, concerts, amusement parks, stuff like that and it will be practically impossible for the experience to depress you.
 
Saucy said:
I was smoking practically every day (and usually more than once per day) for about three months pretty recently, and I found that the cannabis come-down after a while started to depress me, specifically with regard to the negative introspection that would often accompany the fading high while I was by myself.

I'd recommend stopping smoking for at least a few weeks. And when (if) you start up again, try using the weed as an enhancer rather than an activity in of itself. Smoke with friends, at movies, concerts, amusement parks, stuff like that and it will be practically impossible for the experience to depress you.
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That's pretty much what I've begun doing. I didn't even smoke at all today, mostly because my dealer was dry (:p) but still, I did not fiend for it like I used to. I simply occupied myself with other things to do like rearranging my office. I would've loved to do it high but had no problem doing it sober.

I really turned around since the other day, heavily thanks to the support I received here. %)
 
Cannabis is a powerful antidepressant. If you're depressed, you may find the depression goes away while stoned.
 
Glad to see you're starting to feel better already! I'm in almost exactly the same situation.. Smoking every day (for over 2 years now) has made it so when I'm not high, there seems to be no enjoyment to be had anywhere. I have zero appetite if I'm not stoned, can't sleep, no desire to do *anything* ...I'll seriously just sit there for hours trying to think of what I should do, but any time I get an idea I don't want to bother because it won't be as good as if I were baked.

The worst part is running into people I knew from high school. A lot of them are doing really well in college or living interesting lives - travelling, working, having families, etc. Then they ask what I'm up to and I have nothing. I wouldn't say this makes me depressed, but it's probably the closest to depression I've felt. It sucks.

I suppose I too will take the advice in this thread and try to quit smoking weed regularly. Good luck to us both!
 
Ya dude seriously, feel better. Depression sucks.

Just try to look at life in a new light if possible. Try to see the wonder in life, with or without drugs, think of the lucky things in your life, and make changes to the weak points! Get a new job you enjoy, buy a new car that makes you happy, get a new gf/bf that's hotter and nicer than the last, move into a new, less depressing apt/house, or whatever else you can think of that doesn't make you happy.

If something in my life doesn't make me happy, or makes me miserable, I get rid of it. The only point to living is to enjoy your life. If I don't enjoy it, why waste good oxygen?

Not telling anyone to kill themselves (seriously), I'm merely saying that life is meant to be enjoyed, now go enjoy it!! If you don't enjoy it, there just no point.
 
^Ah, but I do offer a differing opinion.

"Life is fulfilling only through the removal of pain or mental anguish," you've gotta have pain and shit to make life bliss, but when that pain or anguish is reduced, you feel happiness or success. Our lowest lows can yield our highest highs in time! And I am certainly not referring to drugs in that statement. The trick to leading a good life is simply making the correct & virtuous informed decisions in order to reduce such anguish... Thanks Aristotle and Zeno (stoics), haha.

Do you still have issues sleeping? If so, try melatonin. I find 5mg at night puts me out like a rock and gives me consistent lucid dreams. I love it. Most of my friends cannot take 5mg though, because they'll wake up from the dreams.
 
Stop smoking and do the right thing kiddo and things will get better. there is so much to live for
 
Seattle_Stranger said:
So, this may generate a few laughs, hopefully I can be taken seriously, but I'm just in that kind of mood....here goes:

I started smoking weed frequently, every day to be precise back in like Feb last year. In May, my work contract ended and I've been unemployed since. I decided to take the summer off from work and just enjoy myself. When it came time to buckle down, jobs were not pulling through and it actually got to the point where I couldn't get a job no matter how hard I tried. I finally landed a job, but it doesn't start until Jan. The entire time I've been unemployed, I've been stoned pretty much all day, every day. Alas, I believe it has taken it's toll...

I'm to the point where if I allow myself to become completely sober, I feel WEIRD. I'm forgetting things all the time, simple little trivial things like walking into a room and forgetting why, laying out my medication on the counter and forgetting to take it, and driving to the store and making wrong turns to get there, and then driving right past it because my head is in la-la land. I can't think clearly and I feel stupid even when I do sober up. Worst of all, I'm DEPRESSED! I have been getting days lately where I'm just depressed for no good reason. I keep thinking terrible things like "why am I here, what is my purpose in life, what do I matter to anyone? Why are people so careless and mean to each other? Will everyone ever get along?". I also just got back together with an on-and-off girlfriend of 3 years, and she moved into my place (temporarily for $$$ reasons, we're helping each other out here because were both strapped), and I'm starting to feel like I just dug myself a grave! I keep feeling like I should leave her but I don't know why, she's done nothing wong. I don't know if it could be seasonal depression (because it just started getting balls ass cold here), or could it be sheer boredom from not working, or depression because I'm pretty much out of money, or what.....

All in all, the depression is killing me. I feel like I have no friends. I feel like my life is empty and there's no reason to live. No, I'm not getting suicidal thoughts or anything, but I just feel like life is pointless. I never feel like this, I'm not used to this, I'm usually the happy-go-lucky guy.

All I want to know is, do anyone else ever notice this happening to them after long-term frequent marijuana use? I do not want to feel this way anymore, it feels like a long, dragged out cocaine comedown, it's awful. I've done other drugs, but not a lot of anything else, nothing that would cause long lasting depression.

I'm going to start cutting down on weed severely. I'm resisting smoking because now, when I smoke, all it does is haze out the bad thoughts for a little while (kinda) only for them to return in a little while. I'd like to get to a point where I smoke recreationally every so often with friends, and not habitually like I currently do. My lungs are taking a toll too...

Thanks in advance and sorry if this is in the wrong place.
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Your post sounds like me, word-for-word, a few months ago when I smoked like that.

It really is the weed, either [reversible] neurological changes caused by such heavy usage, specifically the shrinking of the hippocampus and amygdala, or psychological effects of being stoned all the time, or a combination of both.

You should quit for a month or two at least. I totally know where you're coming from, when you have nothing to do all day and weed is easily available it's extremely easy to fall into that pattern, but it's bad for your psyche to be high that much.

You'll feel fine and dandy after a little while without THC though. The first two or three weeks may very well be extremely difficult, you'll feel bored and irritable and think about pot a lot, but it only gets easier after that. You can return to it again after a break but don't be smokin' like that, you learned your lesson now :)

It's also possible that you've developed real depression and the marijuana may be making it worse, in which case you should get it treated (and it can be very treatable, even without meds), but there's no way for you to tell whether that's the case or not without quitting.
 
Just read the OP, here are my initial thoughts:

1. It's always tough to diagnose things like this. It sounds like a lot is going on in your life beyond just smoking a lot of pot - stress over your employment situation, rekindling an old relationship, etc. I'm not saying pot is not a likely factor in all of this but be wary of assuming that anything negative you have noticed in the past year is necessarily caused by the pot.

2. THC stays in your system for a very long time. While the most obvious effects are gone within hours, the residual psychoactive effects will linger for days, perhaps even weeks. How you feel on a day you haven't smoked isn't necessarily 'how you now feel sober' - it could also just be how your body reacts to the tapering off period of THC intoxication. In other words, these symptoms could just be effects of the drug, not signs that using the drug has somehow changed your body in a more permanent fashion.

3. All that said, if you're feeling depressed, you should stop smoking for a while and see if that resolves it. If it doesn't, seek psychiatric help. Depression is a serious issue and you won't help yourself one bit by ignoring it and hoping it just goes away. It sounds fairly likely that pot at least plays a role - either by precipitating these bad thoughts or by serving as a crutch to avoid confronting them. Either way, at least temporary cessation of smoking is certainly wise.
 
dont spin the weed with tobacco aye..just smoke it straight..its a better high and you wont get pasties or any mental shit happen
 
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