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Pure Mdma

1der_drug said:
Not true.......... MDMA pills are often not even MDMA..... Lab tasts indicate that some 'imps' that are infact locally pressed contain about 9%methylamphetamine and about 9%MDMA.... However, some others that I have come across that are reported to be 'imports' are about 40% MDMA on average. THE MOST PURE MDMA PILL I HAVE EVER COME ACROSS WAS 48% its net weight was 0.24g or 240mg. while some of the pills that are about 40% MDMA weigh about 0.3g or 300mg.

THERE IS NO THAT CONTAINS 90% MDMA, YOU ARE KIDDING YOURSELF.
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And you know the pill was 48% pure...how?
 
it does egsist IMO caps r more pricey than pills though. What bakindauk is saying is obviouse that reguardless of what the pill is cut with. One of its ingredients is pure mdma, and it is possible for n e thing to happen a dude can sell a g of coke for $1 if he wanted to, so im sure pure md egsist one some level in the countrie.
 
I know someone who was done with pills, and over the course of the trial the pills were tested and came back from the labs at being between 48 and 53 percent mdma by weight, I don't know what the weight of each pill was however, I personally ate these pills on many joyous occassions and can confidently say that they were the best I've ever had (They were allegedly imported).

That said, I find that MDMA powder comes through perth on a fairly regular basis, every 6 - 8 weeks. Just long enough for everyone to miss it and be prepared to pay the exorbedent prices for it.
 
But if a pill weighs 100mg, and there is 50% MDMA content then there is only 50mg of MDMA..

A much better way to state that quantity of drug would measure the actual weight of the substance. you could obviously work this out if you knew the weight of the pill and the percentage of active ingredient in it, but to find that out.. wouldnt you need to know the actual active constituent weight anyway?

Caps are often just crushed up pills, but if you can get MDMA caps then it's pretty much the same as getting powder and making them yourself.

Also, the strongest/best pills i have had have actually been the smallest...
 
another who you know.
NOT
what you know, question. right?
the higher up the chain you go the more chances you are of finding pure MDMA.
All about who you know.
 
it is just a question of who u know, end of story.

u can buy mdma in rock form, or "chalk" im pretty sure that is pure. and about the same price as gear in a weight ratio
 
100% pure stuff looks quite like snow i find. That is all subject to how it is recrystallised. B

Rock would just mean that the crystal is moist, same deal as cocaine - rock just means it's more hydrous.. :)
 
The fact that MDP2P and other precursors have been seized in Australia leads me to believe that there are a hell of a lot of people out and about who know how to use them (sufficient to warrant shipments of the size of those captured).

ie. it exists in a pure form here (not including contaminants)

I've come across MDx crystals. Could have been MDMA, MDEA MDA, fucked if I know - I was still too inexperienced with the subtleties of each of them on their own to really tell by the effects. Suffice to say that if they were cut, I was none the wiser. Expensive though :)

And yeah, Organic Chem doesn't really help here. You'd be more interested in analytical and having the right equipment.

*shrugs*
 
1der_drug - with all due respect, your previous posts are over the top. Some of what you are saying is correct but much is not and you are also missing the point of what others are saying.

As Fry_d said, there is the actual drug and then there is the binder.

100% pure MDMA being made to produce pills is non-existent: this is because all illegally produced drugs will not be made to a purity of 100%. About 90% is likely to be as good as it gets. The highest purity methylamphetamine found in seizures seems to be around 85%. It seems that the upper limit has been reached on purity and short of synthesising in a pharmaceutical lab, it is not going to get much purer.

Thus, for example, pills may be be made with 90% pure MDMA powder. If a pill is pressed with inactive binder at 50:50, the pill would be 45% MDMA purity overall.

But the quality and effects of this pill when compared with the powder would be the same, assuming the ultimate dose of MDMA is the same. A point of this powder and a 200mg pill will both contain 90mg MDMA. There is no difference, excluding the variable of onset of action of a purer powder compared with a tablet.

Thus, the binder reduces the purity of the MDMA but it does not necessarily reduce the quality of the pill.

The weight of the pill is also important. Pills typically range from 200mg right up to 400mg in mass. Therefore, a 200mg pill at 40% purity (80mg) is actually a worse pill than the 400mg one at 30% purity (120mg). So with pills the overall purity is always influenced by the amount of binder present, but this is often misleading. Binder does not influence the quality of the pill, it simply adds bulk and binds the MDMA together.

Quality pills are those that are made with the highest purity MDMA powder possible and then contain a large dose of it - e.g. 140mg. If the ultimate overall purity is only 25% because they have used 420mg of inactive binder to produce a whopping 560mg pill then so be it. There is still 140mg of very fine MDMA in there, irrespective of what the lab analysis says is the overall purity.

Glucose is not put into pills - period.

In Australia most pills contain MDMA and MDMA only. Caffeine is the most common additive. There is some meth and ketamine but it is low. There is some MDA but it is low.

Pills seem to contain from 20% up to perhaps 60% MDMA by weight of the pill. (Over 45% is extremely rare and 30-40% seems the most common) But the actual dose of the pill is governed by its mass. Dense and very hard pressed pills may weigh 350mg whereas another of seemingly the same size may weigh only 200mg. Purity considerations go out the door in this comparison - the overall dose is what is crucial, plus the purity (or "quality") of the MDMA that originally went into that pill.


In terms of MDMA being sold as powder, that willl have similar variabilities to methylamphetamine sold in powder form. Quality is likely to be better and more consistent, given its more exclusive status. As discussed, there would be an upper limit on purity given its classification as an illicitly produced substance, as opposed to say ketamine, for which there is a readily available source of 99.9% purity.

And for this reason, MDMA pills (well made ones that is) are not of less quality than MDMA powder - they are of greatly less purity, in my example 50% less, but as the additive is INACTIVE it makes no difference.


(P.S: I appreciate I have not provided references either, but I have no qualms whether anyone believes me or not. Take it with a grain of salt or take it with a big fat pill ;) It's up to you.)
 
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We of the old skool believe you Biscuit. Your credibility speaks for itself - as always. Thanks for the explanation.
 
Of course the point of Biscuits post makes sense. Some of the earlier posters seem to be missing the crucial point that you cant just express the purity of an mdma pill as a percentage if you dont also include the weight of that pill :\ . Its useless data without also knowing the weight.
 
just out of curiousity, Wot colour is pure mdma?? Ive been told that pure mdma is a brown powder but I`ve also had a friends brother(ecstasy dealer) tell me that pure mdma is a liquid. Although I have my doubts on this.
 
Much appreciated Phase_dancer. It is accurate to a degree, but there will always be exceptions.
 
it can come off as a brown powder, white crystals and probably liquid before its dehydrated with hcl im guessing?
 
Given the dosage range of pure mdma and that i often need 2 or 3 good pills to get the desired effect (and i only take pills 3 or 4 times a year these days). I would have to say that close to pure mdma is definately around. Cause when i've had powder and i've accurately measured doses, and got REALLY high (think 2.5 strong pills) off about 0.15g, its safe to say it had to be pretty good stuff (maybe 80+%)

But it certainly isn't that common, then again, Im really not in the scene anymore, so maybe it is :/
 
A good mate lived in Melbourne for 5 years, he came across MDMA powder once or twice, had a taste.

So yeah, it does exist in Australia. And he'd have no reason to lie to me either. Another mate I went to school with has seen pills pressed in front of him so he's seen it too.
 
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