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Psychedelics make me feel REAL

protovack

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This is a big problem for me. When I'm on LSD is the only time when I think deeply about anything or care about anything. When I am sober, nothing really effects my emotional state, I'm not scared, offended, or delighted by ANYTHING. And I think very superficially about my environment. When on LSD i gain the ability to look into things and perceive that this is what "normal" people can do sober, and I can only do it with psychedelics. Another thing, LSD makes me feel perfectly content, complete, without any anxiety or depression. Basically, it turns me into what I perceive to be a healthy "normal and sober" individual, minus the wacky temporal/spatial effects and visuals. Do you think this is all just an elaborate illusion I have, or is this real?
 
^No dont do that.

All your experiencing is the effects of psychedelics, maybe you are rather "dull" in sober reality and the sudden change in emotions and thought surprised you. For me, it doesnt matter if im on a psych or not, i see the beauty in everything, or so i think.
 
Not to freak you out needlessly, but have you ever looked into the symptoms of mental illness? Some cause a lack of emotion... schizophrenia, for example. And in the case of having schizophrenia, you should probably stop dropping acid.
 
When you start believing that psychedelics are one of the few important things in your life, it's going to be a downward slope... whilst you should treat them with respect, you must know you can do without them. Dependence will ruin you.
 
he's not a skitz...I feel the same way..I havent dosed in over 17months and after about 6 months my mind started to close a little bit...lsd use turns me into a hippy
 
LSD always shocks me by making me realize that *I* am living my life. and renews my sense of excitement and wonder with the simple things in living my life, while sober I feel like I'm always in the middle of an existential crisis.

And you're not schizophrenic if you feel this way, its a normal reaction to a strong psychedelic

Try to bring the sense of wonder and fully-living back with you while sober, usually for me it will work at least for a while. Haven't figured out how to make it permanent yet.
 
I feel the exact same way. It's like I'm actually a person, living in time and space, in moments and places, whereas being sober is like being behind a veil that just turns everything into some 2D dream-world where everything is so normal I can't even notice it. I could be anywhere in the world and it would just be another place. I didn't feel like this when I was younger, not that I'm old.
 
you should try meditation... nothing makes you realize that "you" are alive more than sitting in one spot, doing nothing but focusing your awareness... 15 minutes of sitting on a cushion will sure as hell make you appreciate your life ;)
 
HUH.
I work out to stay happy when i'm sober;
Its kinda like productive pain, too keep me in my real reality, when i'm feeling out of it,
a lot of other stuff I started do that does that too (self-hypnosis, meditation).
rather then relying on psychedelics too keep me in some other kind of preferred reality,
I rely on them as just tools to use with and in my real reality.
And the real reality is the lives we live in the matrix.
 
Not to freak you out needlessly, but have you ever looked into the symptoms of mental illness? Some cause a lack of emotion... schizophrenia, for example. And in the case of having schizophrenia, you should probably stop dropping acid.

Are you kidding me? I don't think you need to go pre-diagnosing people on a forum when you don't even know them.

To the OP: Try to implement things you learn on psychedlia while sober. Learn, slowly, to eat right, exercise, meditate, love others, etc. Depression, boredom, apathy and the like are not usually a characteristic of your personality, rather the environment and lifestyle you are living in.

I do not think psychedlics will force you to appreciate life or become active in it. I know plenty of acid heads that still don't really care about anything.

I think one of the most easy ways to develop interest, gratitude and happiness is to either go on walks, or better yet, spend time in nature. Think about going out with friends to swim, hike, or w/e.

Good luck. <3
 
I'm interested in things, but I still never really feel alive, unless something just clicks, which rarely happens. And, I'm not anymore, but I was very into exercise - intense, progressive, regular exercise, and a diet of whole foods to go along with it, which all lasted for years. I was on a competitive level, albeit the lowest possible competitive level. While it did lift my mood somewhat, it didn't come close to restoring that realness and zest that one experiences as a child.
 
It just really frustrates me that some people seem to have this "zest for life" sober, while I only have it when on acid.

When I am on LSD I:

-will only eat the healthiest, freshest foods, never fast food, never packaged, artificial anything
-want to do things like go on a jog in the morning, breath the fresh air, be outside
-feel that my body is balanced, perfectly
-am totally comfortable in my own skin
-feel like I am confident, good looking, likable.

Really, it turns me instantly into the person I want to be. I think I AM that person, but somehow in the grind of daily life, I lose perspective and just end up feeling tired, depressed, etc. I just can't seem to BE this person without drugs. So frustrating....
 
It is frustrating isnt it... Its like society wont allow us to be the loving, gentle and caring person we want to be.. Try meditation man, it might be what your looking for.
 
I feel something like that many times on acid, shrooms or 2c-i (maybe mescaline too, don't quite remember). A feeling of confidence, that you can just be yourself and nobody around is gonna look down on you. Basically I feel like I've always wanted to. Like how I felt was possible during my hypomanic phases but never really happened.

The first time I noticed that was in the tail end of a strong and very rough shroom trip. I felt as confident as a cokehead, as happy and relaxed as a benzo eater and yet sober like a monk. Lasted about an hour and I never felt like that ever again. Not with that feeling of soberness at least.

I like to think of those as insights on how I can be, but that I'll still have to train myself hard while sober for that to happen.
 
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psychedelics are a promise, of what may be possible. its up to you to make it real. if you listen honestly, you know what they are telling you, and how. don't expect it not to cost you (considerable) effort. there is no such thing as a free lunch. don't confuse the hope of that state that is offered to you with the actual state. don't abuse that hope as an ersatz either, it's not free either. no cheating

edit: i think of it as an exercise in balance between epiphany and sobriety. the 'real' is the whole, the conclusion of the dialogue between these two sides. the 'energy/power', if you will, that is put into the epiphany is taken from its the other side and vice versa. given that a psychedelic is a technè, a controlled means by which epiphany can be procured, it is essential to consciously balance the two sides carefully for best results.

edit 2: whan said balance is achieved, neither of the two sides overstep their boundaries relative to each other; but both benefit from the dialogue between each other. a positive feedback loop ensues; in which each side benefits from the other, instead of being at the expense of one another. how is this achieved? through the work.
 
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psychedelics are a promise, of what may be possible. Its up to you to make it real. If you listen honestly, you know what they are telling you, and how. Don't expect it not to cost you (considerable) effort. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Don't confuse the hope of that state that is offered to you with the actual state. Don't abuse that hope as an ersatz either, it's not free either.

^this! :)
 
Agreed with azzazza,
Looks like LSD is helping to spark the changes you want out of yourself, just gotta figure out how to hold onto that drive and keep it with you. Psychedelics are at their best use when you can figure out how to take the positives out of an experience and apply them to the 'real world'.
 
I kinda know how you feel, psychedelics often 'sober' me up now. It clears my head and allows me to think freely. Granted I'm not on a ridiculous dose of anything, then its just a trippp.
 
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