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Psychedelic "revelations"

EasyA

EasyA

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Hi,

So one of my friends, who takes more psychedelics than anyone I know, claims to "learn something new" on every trip he has. I've tripped a little under 20 times, but I only went through these types of revelations on my first 3 trips. Every time after that I can't say I "learned" much of anything, I had a blast, but it wasn't very enlightening. I think theres a line between using it to soul-search and using it for fun. I think it's all about fun after the first few times. Hallucinogens, LSD specifically, seem to have a personality changing effect on a lot of people, and that change, from what I've seen, makes them more accepting, understanding, and overall more chill. My question for you all is whether or not tripping teaches you about yourself every time, or if you are just using it for fun.
 
in a journey for knowledge that is based in sober life, that is mainly about reading/studying history, philosophy, etc LSD can throw extra light on things or make me find associations i might not have otherwise, things like that, but sitting around taking psychedelics and just expecting shit to happen has always seemed to me a bit useless
 
I always seek learning and novelty so LSD is always a journey into self-discovery when I do it. I also believe that it unlocks different positive potentials in the brain that are normally dormant or under-developed, in those susceptible. Experienced psychedelic users who engage in intelligent, moderate, and creative use are always people I get along well with. Their creative insights into pretty much any subject are of a different caliber.

The only time I have a problem with these people is when they act like become holy rollers that act like they've found the supreme truth. Psychedelics like LSD open up doorways but it's always going to be your choice over what you do with the revelations. I still need to function in mundane reality, make money, and take care of people and physical resources, so I can't always afford to be in a post-trip mentality. Psychs are ungrounding by their very nature and I don't think humans are meant to live outside of this dimension long-term.
 
You know, I am certain that psychedelics sometimes allow the same cognitive / emotional arousal as that occuring during the everyday-life experience of understanding, in general.
It is then natural and naïve to assume that you are understanding something, since that is the closest experience you can relate your state to.
I am not trying to denigrate the experience, which is fine, entertaining, beautiful and worth it. But beware of the frustration which may arise when you try to figure out WHAT you just understood.

Now it is also possible that you do understand something, but then you immediately know what it is. In my case, it usually takes the form of analogies I wasn't aware of, like I manage to somehow "connect the dots" between two distant concepts.
 
I learn something new every day, but when I'm on LSD, I notice more clearly the fact that I'm learning. Psychedelics often tickle the part of your brain that governs novelty, so it's natural to feel this way.
 
Learning something new on psychedelics is most usually the process of making the connection between a previous thought or idea, to a concurrent way of being or of a potential potential.

Revelations can occur at any time you realize something is happening, you are involved in it, you completely understand what is going on, and there is something you can do to improve the situation.

Psychedelics make revelations feel trippy.

Learning from psychedelics is only half, integration of what we learnt from psychedelics is the bit where mountains move.
 
I feel as though every single trip I've ever had has taught me something about myself. I certainly don't mean that I've experienced a cosmic revelation every time I've taken a psychedelic but I always take time over the following few days after I trip to reflect on what I experienced, things I may have said that were brilliant and stupid, synchronicities (or any unexpected weirdness) that may have occurred during the trip, etc, . I have had profound revelations several times on powerful trips including my last trial with aMT & 4-HO-DPT where I realized in the middle of my trip that I've always had a deep connection to animals and my profession should reflect my love for animals.
I believe that it is possible to learn something from every single trip but it's partly up to the individual to as much as the drug.
 
From what it seems like, you already learned everything you needed to know. And in this case, it's normal as several of my friends have experienced the same.
 
When I used to eat acid I said this every time. "I always have a life problem solved thru reflection" or " I have a life ephinay"
Everyone thought I was weird and didn't get what I meant. Never have I saw so many people think these things as I did. Where were you guys at when I was dropping?
Haha
 
My revelations include but are not limited to the following: I'm hungry, fuck I need to shit, gonna puke, HOLY FUCK! that is strong shit... puke, need to piss, itchy nads, what the fuck was I doing? Almost forgot the prime revelation: god and the meaning of existence live in my asshole. Do psychedelics often enough and you realize these profound revelations are just underlying subconscious thoughts and desires that are present anyway. Psychedelics just allow ourselves to examine these subconscious thoughts and desires.
 
I don't believein that spiritual stuff, but you can learn about how your brain processes information (after a few trips I learned to see faint patterns even when sober if I concentrate enough) and filters out the unimportant stuff. They can also give you a new perspective about things going on in your life.
 
I find it useful to keep an external record of the insights I think I'm having during my trips, whether it's through jotting down some notes in a journal, or making a drawing of the visuals I'm seeing, or diagramming the new concepts I'm connecting together. Then I can go back later and filter through to find the ones worth pondering some more.

ZFC made a good point, it's entirely possible to get that "Aha!" feeling, without it actually being meaningful at the time. (Which itself is an important insight to have...)
 
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