Psychedelic Experiences changing (fun to spiritual)

[ASquishyApple]

i wasn't exactly sure what to title this thread and i'm not sure if i can accurately put into words what i am trying to find out but here it goes:

i have a question for those of you who initially started using psychedelics purely for the fun aspect (visuals, giggling, etc) but later realized the power psychedelics have and the possible spiritual experiences, ego-deaths, or deep introspection that psychedelics can bring about. did the whole experience and effects of a trip on any one psychedelic change once you realized that it could be used for much more than just fun?

 

[MyExcuse]

I believe it's just the person. Set and Setting have a lot to do with it. Also, if you use around other people, the experience generally is usually just 'fun' and I personally find it difficult if not impossible to have deep introspection.

Even when I was younger (early teens) and used various hallucinogens, I would become introspective and found them to be valuable tools for studying myself and the world around me on a different level of consciousness.

I am not religious so the concept of 'religious experience' seems moot to me. Complex neuropharmacodynamics leading to altered brain functioning, is all.

Anyway, ketamine and LSD just made me more 'religious' in my use of hallucinogens.

 

[isotopic_parody]

My first psychedelic experience was for a deeper meaning.... at least I said it was... in reality, I think I wanted to experience something new and something fun.

WAY too much 2c-e did a lot more than just that and truly showed me my place in the multiverse... as well as allowed me to psychoanalyze myself in a timeless fashion (really humanity, not just myself).

Since that first fateful trip, tripping is usually for a deeper purpose.... although I am guilty of still sometimes tripping for recreation and hope deeper purposes arise....

 

[malakaix]

It only took my first trip on LSD to realize this substance went far beyond a 'drug to get messed up on'.

 

[hjj]

I don't understand the point of the question. Did this happen to you? or someone else you know?

The effect a drug has on you can't change that much physically, unless you count OEVS.
Realizing a drug can do more for you then playing with a kelidiscope, mentally, yeah your trip can change.

I started out with psychedelics knowing alot of what could happen, but I never expect specific things anytime I take them.
Most of my trips end up being really spiritual and extremely fun.

 

[ASquishyApple]

yeah i was really unsure about how to word it.
i myself have yet to try a psychedelic period. i was asking tho because i had a psychedelic experience with weed+mdma and ever since then it seems like my tolerance has dropped to less than what it was when i first tried weed as weed seems to have taken on an entirely new subjective effect on me. i now seem to get much more withdrawn and introspective even when i'm around other people (it does differ depending on who exactly i'm around tho). With some really potent weed, after like 2-3 bowls with a friend of mine i started tripping very slightly but i had visuals and would just start laughing at what i saw and my friend would ask "what's going on?"

so i guess the question is if you started using a psychedelic merely for fun then realized the potential they could have did your subjective experiences on said psychedelic change?

 

[explorer83]

I originally started doing psychedelics because they were fun, interesting, and I already knew better than "regular" drugs. I most often used them at concerts (still do some) and found some of the "connection to everyone else" and a kind of academic interest in changes in perception. Unfortunately, I have used them in the past to "get high". I've used them primarily to explore the nature of my mind, conciousness, and reality for the last few years. I still do enjoy a lighter psychedelic at certain shows to really connect me to the music and people around me.

I can also say that I was raised hard-core christian, was pretty much agnostic in late high school/college, and psychedelics, in part, have prompted me to investigate farther in these issues and to develop thoughts and positions of my own.