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Propofol - experienced - analgosedative dosage - Pure bliss

crOOk

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EDIT: Dosage was 200mg according to the letter I received. I think it might be the standard dose on there, they turned up the infusion when I started to resist their pushing the endoscope into my throat. That's when I passed out for a bit according to what I was told. Either those 200mg in the letter were the total dose which I find highly unlikely, considering that it's such an even number and you never really know exactly how much liquid left the bag. So take this with a grain of salt. I don't think Propofol is antything many people here would want to experiment with at home without taking care of the respiratory deficite somehow.
Okay whoever told me this was anything like booze or wouldn't possess recreational potential is full of shit. This was by far the most intensely pleasurable downer experience I've ever had. It surely tops IV piritramid and IV hydromorphone, same goes for IV midazolam and diazepam, not to mention this short-lived barb I once tried in proper (oral) knockout dosages, forgot the name, but I hated it. I'd rather huff diethylether than repeat that. I have vast experiences with oral downers eventhough they aren't my drug of choice. Opiates I unfortunately do enjoy a lot, orally or rectally usually, but I have some limited iv experience as well. I'm just saying this to stress how FAR superior today's propofol expeirence during the course of an esophago-gastro-duodenoscopy (followed by a proctoscopy) felt to all these prior experiences. Only my iv piritramide experiences came close to being in the same league.

I am (again: unfortunately so) a huge fan of the first 30 minutes after 200ml of hard liquor hit my stomach. I cannot deny that propofol took me to a space close to that, but without the stupor, I was able to articulate myself perfectly fine and maintain a conversation with the anesthesiologist. There was a time when they raised infusion rate and thereby cause amnesia (which I specifically asked to avoid by all means if they could) because I didn't handle the tube in my throat very well it seems. Before that I remember the most amazing sense of inner peace, something that only one drug has previously managed to supply and that is dmt. I felt perfectly in tune with my surroundings, empathetic towards those who just a minute ago seemed like total twats, but seemingly lucid and clear headed, articulate and in control. Absolutely wonderful. My first words when it kicked in were: (me speaking in what I perceived as a calm, but intent tone of voice)
"I feel slightly dissociated, distanced from my surroundings. Is propofol some sort of allosteric modulator of glutamate receptors aside from it's presumed gabaergic effects?"
"Not as far as I know."
"There is some very intense euphoria present right now, I can see why such a large part of the annual propofol production can not be tracked down to documente clinical use..."
*me thinks: mmmm so this is what michael jackson mustve felt like w...*
*blackout*
Something is in my ass. Damn this feels more than pleasant, contrary to all expectations. The camera is situated in the caecum if I am not mistaken, we are actually peaking into the most distal part of the ileum from there and are slowly heading out towards the back entrance which, judging by the feel of things, we also used as a means of gaining entrance.

The heavily sedative phase made room for an even more euphoric afterglow phase which is still lingering on. I gave the taxi driver ten bucks to get off my back (he was supposed to "escort" me home) and enjoyed a beautiful walk in the sun, feeling nothing short of reborn, almost as powerful as the afterglow of my first psychedelic and dissociative experiences.

Despite feeling so relaxed and beautifully refreshed though, all I can think about is "Where can I get more of this?" This actually started in the (so-called) wake-up room of the praxis, I was already going through friends in my head who currently work in anesthesiology and can score me some. I actually tried to sneak the IV catheter out by dressing up over it and pretending to be good to go, all with "moar propofolz!!" in mind. Needless to say, that proved to be a failure.

I've called five pharmacies, but none of them can score some thymol before the day is over, rectal trials would have followed. I might still have a chance if I bring this thread to an end soon. So what's left to say, oh right, set and setting. Well, I had tubes up my ass, could it be any worse? Here's my prior regimen that day and the day before:

>>Day before:
-In the a.m. ~25mg oral amphetamine and 50mg XR tramadol
-~5mg intranasal MDPV until noon
-No food, lots of laxans
-At 8pm 10mg oxycodone intranasally, spend the time playing with my daughter till she goes to sleep at 10:30pm
-Another 30mg i.n. oxy at 11pm (roa chosen cause of the thunderstorm in my GI tract)
-150mg oral Diphenhydramine (~11pm) and a shitload of bigbud (until till 4a.m., 5h pre-appointment...)
-...no sleep, no food... nodding, programming, playing computer, feeling just dandy though
>>Day of tube insertion:
-In the a.m. ~25mg oral amphetamine and 50mg XR tramadol
-~5mg intranasal MDPV until noon
>>Throughout the two days prior to the day of procedure I had ~3 liters of grapefruit juice to bring out the magic of that tram.

This regimen probably contributed to my feeling so damn good. My assumption is that the old hag of an anesthesiologist just tried to knock my talkative ass out and realized I don't respond to the initial dosage as she expected (with all the dopaminergic circuitry acting up from the PV & amp). The lingering opioid activity (oxy+m1) supplied some sort of extra euphoria, so did the uppers and the ssri action of tram itself.

Either way: I've never had a downer make me feel so fucking relaxed. I still feel like I was 16, the air smells fresh and clean, I feel emotionally healthy for once (been a while!), fuck this shit is WAY too good, no wonder it will with a high probability kill your ass, if it's being messed around with it in a non clinical setting... Stay safe and don't take this as a recommendation. Going into any form of anesthesia, even a light one like this with the premedication I had and skipping a night of sleep is absolutely idiotic and reckless and to be recommended only to those among you who are tired enough of life to bury the thought of loved ones having to live without you somewhere deep below their hedonistic drive. :/

Peace and much <3, stay safe people!


edit: no midazolam, no fentanyl, no ketamine in that mix

EDIT2: Forgot to mention I had 3 liters of hi-q ;) grapefruit juice spaced out over the two days prior to the anesthesia, also 2x 3mg s.l. MXE and 150mg Diphenhydramine at night. I added these above as well.
 
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This was posted in another thread where people were argueing heavily whether propofol was recreational or not. http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/331421-anyone-abuse-anesthetics?highlight=propofol
i didn't ask the dosage, lol. i just let the anesthesiologist take care of that. all i know is i had a an IV drip, they gave it to me through there.

next thing i remember is waking up with one of the most peaceful feelings i've ever had in my life and just wanting to lay down and get as comfortable as i could except i had to get up to use the bathroom. i was high for a good half an hour after that, as the affects tapered off. like i said, it was similar to opiates but without the side affects and more sedation and also similar to benzos/alcohol but much more clear headed.

and i don't know why phrozen is saying it isn't recreational, i was afraid it was going to have unpleasant side affects at first so i asked the nurse about it and he smiled and said most people loved it and asked if they could have some to take home. i think it's pretty obvious it's recreational if people are asking to take some home with them.

I couldn't describe it any better. I'm most amazed by the complete lack of unpleasant side effects. My coordination felt super sharp, I didn't stumble, had slurred speech, open or shut doors louder than usual etc. Just perfect inner peace. Shit I get ass raped and all I could think was.. nay never mind let's not go there. It was a damn fine experience. I once had a doctors finger up my butt (same guy) and godamn did I hate it, so it surely wasn't the stimulation of my anus or prostate that caused the inner peace. Just needed to say that before anyone else does. ;P

EDIT: As far as i can tell by taking a glimpse at people's experiences, 9 out of 10 seem to abolutely love it. Still 9/10 people talking about it say it's crap. Seems like the latter 9 have never had any but fell victim to another brilliant scheme by the (eeeeeevil ;) ) pharmaceutical companies to market this as a drug with no abuse potential, not closely monitored, something easy as hell to synth and to sling like crazy for decades to come. Not entirely serious here, but there seems to be a huge discrepancy between what people "educated" about propofol claim it's effects to be and people "experienced" with propofol say about them. Just bear in mind that heroin was marketed as less addictive than morphine and a lot of pharmaceutical text books of today still claim amphetamine to posess no addictive potential whatsoever when used in a clinical setting laaaawl.

EDIT2: PROFIT! 25g "crystalline" Thymol for 5-6€ lawl, opposed to an "oil" by a different manufacturer which was more expensive, go figure. Can't wait to start clinical trials... ;) God I love my pharmacist. First of all she's hot as shit and always has this professional, let's-get-down-to-business, serious tone in her voice. Very hot.
Second, ever since I walked in there tweaked out of my mind by half a gram of dirt speed, numb and disinhibited by 50mg Clorazepat and 200ml 80 proof she ordered anything I've ever needed, since I am as she stated at a later visit of mine "sufficiently knowledgable to know all these safety measures already". I can't say I remember much aside from a few blurry pictures of mine coming home 300 Euros lighter then when I had left the house on a mission to buy some noodles for dinner (the whole day was a series of grave mistakes to be cleaned up after for some time to come and contributed to my deeply felt despise for benzos).
Oh man I'm totally gonna peak in tonight before they shut their doors and be like "Oh hey I jsut passed by and was wondering if maybe my thymol has arrived already." Time to get wasted, bitches!!
 
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I had a long talk about that and went in requesting an opioid if possible. I claimed to have had adverse reactions to benzodiazepines before (which incidentally is true) and would prefer to take as much information I can gather during the procedure home with me since I am studying medicine and all. I also told her about receiving IV Piritramid before during my stay on an ICU for burn victims (dmt lab went boom, I'm sure some will remember) and that those heavenly moments of bandage replacement and wound cleansing are the most vivid memory I have of my hospital stay. Therefore I would prefer an opioid as primary vehicle to la-la-land. Well, needless to say she did not "concur" (to quote "Catch Me If You Can") and explained to me that Propofol is the primary anaesthetic used during endoscopic imaging procedures. What we want is sedation and anxiolysis, not pain management, since there should not be any pain. Should there be pain, an opioid can be given, she said, but the thought of administering it preemptively was met with considerable resistance on her part it seemed. Might have just been her alarm bells going off when a skinny-ass twen with a long-ass beard and shaved head asks for iv dope lol. I got the same story from my nurse friend btw, propofol to induce la-la-ness, then sometimes Midazolam for increased sedation without much respiratory depression and an opioid only when pain occurs. Can't believe how that guy in the other thread got attacked from three sides with everyone claiming he surely received an opioid, not jut propofol. I wonder what people base such claims on. Why won't it get into their heads that the information they have available (about propofol or anythign else really) seems to be only part of the big picture?

I'm rambling again, just ignore me lol. Glad you enjoyed the report! :)
 
Okay. So many hours of internetz research later, after ordering Thymol from my pharmacy, considering a Thymacetin synthesis and some other scary thoughts I wouldn't dare to speak out aloud, this is the solution I come up with for the not easily solved quest of getting that fucking high again: (It's brilliant, just read and learn)

-I figure I have 28 teeth left (wisdom teeth gone)
-That means, assuming each tooth will receive a maximum of 1 root canal treatment before rotting away split up into 3 sessions,
-28x1x3=84 dentist sessions

So much for the math. Now you might ask yourself: How is he gonna get the anaesthesiologist to show up? And it is a valid question I say, for I asked myself the same. This is the plan. Get mad peevee'ed up before showing for the next appointment, thereby simulating great anxiety. The rest is pretty self explanatory.

Now for getting those teeth ruined. pm me if u can come up with a valid solution to the matter at hand.



Oh and before I forget:
I HEREBY OFFICIALLY URGE EVERYONE WITH HEALTH INSURANCE TO GO GET THEIR GI TRACT EXAMINED!!! Dont you worry, the healthcare system is doing just fine, you pay money, you want to feel good in return right? It is your god given right I say to seek out dentists and proctologists alike if the urge to get wasted should surface!! In the meantime, just pray for god to have mercy with humanity and to not ever let this here boy become a doctor lol.
 
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