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Possible ways of preventing abuse of your own drugs.

onepot

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I've used drugs in the past which were very functional and helpful at low doses, but then at some point I'd be an idiot and abuse them when I was bored or pissed off. So I was thinking of ways I could make sure I couldn't do that, and I thought maybe I could dilute them so they're harder to abuse. But if I diluted them with water, I could just evaporate it if I wanted to. Stuff like juice or tea would spoil. My next thought was low-alcohol liquors like peach schnapps. But I could theoretically drink a whole bottle in an evening if I was so inclined. Also, someone else might find the bottle and drink it.

The best think I could come up with was mouthwash. It's nontoxic, tastes like crap to drink, and you can measure it with the cap. I could dilute it so a tablespoon is an effective dose, which shouldn't have enough of anything in it to cause damage. And you can carry it around without anyone thinking anything. So any thoughts?
 
I'm going to move this to.... let's try Drug Culture. If it doesn't work for you guys, let's move it to BDD.

To the conveyor belt!

Moving ADD -> DC
 
Edit: jesus I didn't see you were talking about drugs in general. Well I guess the 2 last options I suggested don't apply here. Sorry I missed that, and wrote a freaking essay on the wrong subject, I'm a little retarded atm from my sleep-deprivation. My apologies. :D
- The same thing does kind of apply to drugs, you are going to need to learn to control your impulses, if people can do ghb all day long which is DISGUSTING, why wouldn't you be able to down some mouthwash? Dilluting it will probably just result in taking more, until you had a dose you find recreational. And you'll have to drink something disgusting to do it.


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If you have the meds and you really are having difficulties not abusing them, you would be surprised how far you would go to get high when you really want to. Even drink alot of disgusting mouthwash or whatever. And then you'll hate yourself for dilluting it in the first place.

Unfortunately it's all about self-control, which is the only real way to prevent abuse if you have it there 'up for grabs'.
It's tough when you're impulsive, but it can really be done. I managed to get it under control after my habit got out of control and I became a total mess because the amounts I took daily were just.. Unreal.

[HR: DON'T EVER TRY TAKING THESE DOSES, I MUST BE THE LUCKIEST PERSON ON THE PLANET TO HAVE NEVER OD'D.]

I'm talking about gigantic amounts of a combination of benzos, well over a normal rec. dose (Not in total, I mean that a dose of 1 of these would get most people k.o.) I'd take 10mg xanax, 10mg lorazepam, 10mg clonazepam, 60mg diazepam and 36mg bromazepam on average each day. Sometimes I added other benzos when I had them, also well beyond the normal rec. dose. I had collected over a 1000 pills by the time I came to my senses. (And bravely threw them all out, except diazepam for tapering.) I had these enormous amounts of pills because I started going to a second doctor who would write prescriptions for almost any benzo and additional painkillers. He wouldn't give me the strongest benzos. Flunitrazepam and triazolam weren't an option, temaz & midazolam aren't prescribed outside hospitals here. I asked him for different benzos from time to time. So I was getting prescriptions for 2 types of benzos, tramadol and OC 40s from two doctors. Like I said.. It got out of control, and obtaining them was so easy.. My real doctor, who is really not a bad doctor had scans taken, tried different pain meds, PT, etc. The other doc was a guy who lived of drug-seekers. I always combined my "benzo cocktail" with 40mg doses of oxy every few hours, 800mg of tramadol, something between 50 and 200mg of tilidine, and 400mg of codeine. Know what I mean by saying I became a mess? It was bad.

I was too fucked up 24/7 to care about the dangers. In retrospect, the doses I took obviously could've easily led to a lethal OD. But ofcourse I told myself it was safe because I didn't feel like ever came close to an overdose. I've read stories about people OD'ing on alot less, but still told myself my tolerance made it impossible for me to overdose. I knew I was doing something very dangerous but still I kept telling myself that nonsense. I came to my senses after a few months of this idiotic behaviour by using acid for the first time. It was a scary trip, it felt like I was being confronted with my behaviour, by myself.. It was the most life-changing trip I ever had. And totally worth the scary hours I spent rethinking my lifestyle. Now I'm not saying go do some acid and you will see the light, lol. I'm just saying that's how I got out of it. (I take 10mg diazepam/day now and sometimes a modest dose of tilidine, or tramadol when I'm in alot of pain.) Think about the dangerous game you are playing, and how it will affect you if you continue to go down this road. I never mentioned actual doses I took here before, because I was ashamed of how stupid and reckless my behaviour had become. But abuse quickly turns it into a habit, habits cause tolerance, and that's when the vicious circle starts spinning.
I hope this was somewhat useful to you, because I don't particularly like talking about that time.

Another thing you can do is asking someone you live with to hang on to them and never give you more than you're allowed. But again, if you're really craving recreational doses, you would do crazy stuff to get your hands on higher doses. (begging the person you need more, or lying and saying you dropped the pill they just gave you and can't find it. Or becoming a drug-seeker..) But it's something you can try.

Then there's possibly another option. My dr. once told me about it, I don't know if this is available everywhere or not. He told me there's a possibility to pick up your normal doses every week at the pharmacy without having to go your dr. every week. You just pay for the meds when you get your first week's meds, and you can pick them up 10 times before you need to revisit the doctor. I declined back then, but now it's something I would immediately do if things started spiraling out of control again. But I don't think that's going to happen.
 
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I guess I was thinking of putting drugs in a form that you can't snort or smoke, because if I could do that, I think I'd have a much easier time not abusing them, or even wanting to abuse them. Also, then I wouldn't be carrying around the suspicious little bags of powder. Honestly, I had very little trouble controlling my usage of any drug before MDPV, so hopefully I can get back there again. It's just those habits, you know.
 
You could add capsaicin to capsules of your substance. Capsaicin is the chemical that gives chili peppers their spice. I'm not sure about smoking, but this would definitely make it unpleasant to snort. However, taken in a capsule with an appropriate dose, you wouldn't taste anything. The only problem is if you use too much capsaicin, your shit will burn.
 
My mother took my scripts.... Couldn't abuse them then but I managed to steal my own scripts back but thank the heavens I'm 18 now. Other drugs just require will power.
 
If you have it lying around you will be drawn to it. And if you can't smoke/snort it you might just end up taking more orally because the BA of snorted/smoked drugs is in general way higher. And the effects more immediate..

If you just can't lay off it, but really want to, it may be time for something more drastic..

Hope you find the willpower, or another solution that works for you.
 
Learn about neuropsychology, and read as many addiction stories as you can on Bluelight and Erowid. If it weren't for these wonderful sites, I would have tried so many drugs I would never touch now after reading about consequences.

If you learn about what's going on in your brain when you take these drugs, and I don't mean "oxycodone is a mu-opioid agonist," I mean which regions of the brain it affects, why tolerance increases, long term consequences, etc, then you will have an advantage over the ignorant in avoiding addiction and tolerance increase, which further worsen addiction through raising doses.

When you get to the crossroads of upping your dose or just being happy with that dose with not getting dopesick, always chose the latter, you'll actually enjoy it for much longer, as chasing the high skyrockets your tolerance.
 
To be honest, one of my biggest problems is that I have absolutely zero fear of death. None whatsoever. At periods in my life where I had a lot to lose, I guess I would have been more careful, but now isn't one of those times. And of course, there's the frequent depression, where I get it in my head that I want to try and play chicken with whatever drugs I can get my hands on. I always try and go with ones that don't seem likely to cause permanent damage, but especially with RCs, you never know.

Anyway, the drugs I was referring to are mostly the more functional stimulants, that could bring me at least part of the way out of that low-energy mental fog I'm constantly finding myself in. I have no interest in abusing benzos or opiates, although benzos seem like they would help come down off stims.

But still, because the only drug I ever really abused and couldn't control my use of was MDPV, and because I always vaporized that, I feel like I wouldn't crave, or be unable to control my use of, other ROAs. Yeah, MDPV taught me what addiction is, real good.
 
Anyway, the drugs I was referring to are mostly the more functional stimulants, that could bring me at least part of the way out of that low-energy mental fog I'm constantly finding myself in..

If your looking for daily functional improvement, then maybe nootropics are worth a try.

Since I started with aniracetam, my cravings for stimulant abuse have decreased significantly.
 
^ Low dose dextroamphetamine, approximately 15mg/day dosed throughout the day in an Extended Release formulation or with a 7.5mg IR initial dose with 2.5mg boosters, has totally crushed my craving to abuse any drug. My problem drugs were mainly cannabis with responsible opiate usage, I haven't smoked for 10 weeks now and I was a day in, day out stoner for five years.

A small amount of people diagnosed with ADD actually have it on a neuronal level, but for the ones that do, self medication is a very real problem with drugs that are overly euphoric for the amount of dopamine they release, and ones whose high can be chased endlessly. I absolutely hate d-amphetamine, I feel it makes me "normal" and boring, I absolutely love having ADD, but don't like the social and academic consequences. I feel like cannabis just made my inattentive ADD that much worse (some feel it helps ADHD-Hyperactive only), and I just loved it, so entertaining doing absolutely nothing. Medium-moderate dose LSD makes my ADD ridiculously intense, it is my favorite drug by far.

I wonder if I can replace dex for racetams come summer and when school is finished, I am very interested in Piracetam and a perfect ratio of L-Theanine/Caffeine as nootropics. I want to start using very low dose cannabis edibles if that doesn't work, or vaporize controlled dosages of cannabis concentrates, but I'm scared of slipping back in to IDGAF stonerisms.
 
If your looking for daily functional improvement, then maybe nootropics are worth a try.

Since I started with aniracetam, my cravings for stimulant abuse have decreased significantly.
I did try piracetam once, but probably not in a regimen that would be considered effective. You have to eat so much of that stuff, it's almost like food.

It's funny you should say that though, because I have an order of piracetam, aniracetam, and noopept on the way as we speak. I wanted to get hydergine too, but apparently you have to order that from outside the US. So I guess I'll see how the racetams work first, then maybe look into hydergine.

I'm pretty sure I have actual, real ADD. Quite a few relatives on my dad's side have been diagnosed, my dad would almost certainly be diagnosed if he went to a psychiatrist, my brother had most of the symptoms but they stopped when he became an adult, and lots of relatives on my dad's side of the family seem like they had or have ADD personality types. For example, my dad's mother was killed when she crossed the road without paying attention. And her father seemed like he had a typical ADD personality type too.

I do think ADD is overdiagnosed, and often ADD meds are given to people who just aren't motivated. And to be fair, stimulants can help a lot of people with motivation problems. But with me, I think the difference was, I really wanted to be able to be focused and organized and all that, there was just some disconnect in my brain.
 
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