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Politicians say the darndest things

SubDude said:
Now it's pretty clear how much ugly rage/hate you have for others who don't believe as you... fairly typical of left lunes. Since your now attacking your elders...I believe it's appropriate to refer to you as a Gerontophobe.
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and this a problem how? i seem to have no problems with hobhead, or ugly, or anyone else but you. how long till Johnny realizes that maybe it's him, and not the band that's out of tune?


BTW you better get use to seniors running things since the baby boomers are just getting started... and the most youngsters don't give a damn
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8) yeah, i'm totally geared up for the next 20 years of John McCain ;)


I only respond to whats thrown at me first... which comes frequently at BL CEP. Many are personal attacks which are difficult to ignore. But then, I clearly understand who I'm dealing with here and the numbers.
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then use the fucking report function, get the mods on it and stop whining. aren't you of the persuasion that hates whining and complaining and inaction and hand wringing and other, weak, "feminine" things? seems like you sure do a fuckton of it.

keeping the thread on topic

"No, no we shouldn't Brian," Inhofe said. "Let's keep in mind, these detainees, they have things they've never had before. You know what the biggest problem in Gitmo is right now? It's obesity. They're eating better than they've ever eaten before, they have better medical care, they have legal counsel. You gotta draw the line somewhere, let's draw it here."
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Sen. Inhofe (R-OK)

link.
 
Kenickie said:
8) yeah, i'm totally geared up for the next 20 years of John McCain ;)
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The John McCain types running govt now are not boomers... I think you will see some proactives among my generation.


then use the fucking report function, get the mods on it and stop whining. aren't you of the persuasion that hates whining and complaining and inaction and hand wringing and other, weak, "feminine" things? seems like you sure do a fuckton of it.
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Generally speaking, I learned a long time ago to take care of my own personal problems... which is something I doubt you've been taught... but then [without bringing gender into it] I understand. I suspect you ran and told the teacher when someone said something mean to you... BTW I thnk MOST of the mods here are fair, regardless of their beliefs. However, a couple are the worst offenders... so I'll break from the code [just for you] Your moderation techniques and postings are lacking and sometimes offensive.
 
SubDude said:
I only respond to whats thrown at me first... which comes frequently at BL CEP. Many are personal attacks which are difficult to ignore. But then, I clearly understand who I'm dealing with here and the numbers.
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you were talking about obama - what did he say about you?

seriously, you criticise people for name-calling, one-sentence after doing exactly the same thing yourself. that's called hypocrisy... :\

alasdair
 
WALLACE: Question — President Paul would tell those folks, you’re on your own?

PAUL: Well, you can’t change laws overnight. The president isn’t a dictator, but you would work for certain goals. The principle of ultimate insurance by government is moral hazard because people do things they shouldn’t do.

But I have opposed, you know, flood insurance since I’ve been in Congress for 30 years, since 1976. And I have a coastal district, so I don’t support FEMA. I get a lot more complaints about FEMA than I get support.

Of course, if it’s a program — you know, there are a lot of programs I would do away with, but in the meantime, I’d work to manage them responsibly. As a matter of fact, I have introduced legislation that would make Social Security more an insurance program, make it responsible, even though those things aren’t technically proper.

So, no, FEMA is a problem. You brought up the subject, you know, of the Mississippi. FEMA is more or less in charge. But their decision now, because of government levees, because of the flood and no natural result and taking care of this flood, they have a decision to make. OK, down the Mississippi and flood this city, or down here and flood some innocent farmers.

I mean, this is the kind of dilemma that wouldn’t happen in a society that didn’t expect the government to solve our problems. But to expect the government and people who aren’t benefiting to pay for me to live on the beach and get my house blown down, that’s not morally correct and it’s not in the Constitution, if that’s what we’re supposed to be doing.
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http://www.politicususa.com/en/ron-paul-levees
 
So, no, FEMA is a problem. You brought up the subject, you know, of the Mississippi. FEMA is more or less in charge. But their decision now, because of government levees, because of the flood and no natural result and taking care of this flood, they have a decision to make. OK, down the Mississippi and flood this city, or down here and flood some innocent farmers.


I mean, this is the kind of dilemma that wouldn’t happen in a society that didn’t expect the government to solve our problems.
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Yeah, it would be more constitutional to let nature take it's course. I'm sure the people of New Orleans are used to being devestated by flooding by now and would understand. 8)

My dad has been on the FEMA call list since Hurricane Ike which happened to hit Galveston Texas. This hurricane hit just a few years after Katrina so responders were en route before it even made landfall. My dad was out of work at the time so he drove 2,000 miles to Galveston to help with the cleanup. He was paid very well and was able to send enough money to keep the house running until eventually we were all working. Apparently everyone he worked with there had a very similar story.

I fail to see how FEMA is a problem aside from it being a government program. (Cue concentration camp argument)
 
I think you will see some proactives among my generation.
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fucking ROFL..... todays baby boomers are mostly conservative, and are the ones responsible for electing conservative administrations over the past 20 or 30 years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms

^that is a link to a wiki page giving a detailed description of the rising and falling of the national debt over the past 30 or so years, see any patterns?

In case you didnt look at it, it basically shows that every time we elect a "conservative" (lol) the national debt magically skyrockets. Every time we elect a democrat, it decreases. Reagan managed to raise the national debt OVER 40% FOR EACH 4 YEAR TERM HE SERVED. Bush sr. around 30% per term, bush jr. about 20% per term.

Now lets take a look at the national debt under Clintons watch. Even with the massive shitheap of debt left over by his "conservative" (lol) predecessors he still managed to balance the budget because the american economy was strong at the time. Yet most "conservatives" (lol) only remember him for banging his secretary, he should be your fucking hero if you were really for smart government spending and debt elimination.

The rest of the western world gets it, and they elect liberal leaders because they see them as the leaders most likely to represent the needs of their constituency. Yet here in america we have a swollen generation, raised on propoganda, devoid of critical thinking skills, that listen to rush limbaugh and people like him, and are convinced that the problems our country is facing stems from inefficency in social service programs( medicare, SocSec ect) and moral decay when the real problem is the election of conservative leaders that are openly in the pockets of special interests.
 
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yep, i want Rand Paul and Michele Bachman to go on a "i don't understand metaphors or similes or anything like that, we like to compare simple things like healthcare for everyone and simplified tax codes to the enslavement of african americans and the fucking holocaust."
 
alasdairm said:
you were talking about obama - what did he say about you?

seriously, you criticise people for name-calling, one-sentence after doing exactly the same thing yourself. that's called hypocrisy... :\

alasdair
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You know damn good and well I was referring to other Bl'ers. Besides elected politicians are open game to criticism and most anything else. Calling him a "flip flopper" is a compliment compared to other referals to his performance... Anyone whose followed his statements and campaign rhetoric verses what he's done is in tune with this. I'm fairly certain if I checked your postings you had plenty of worse descriptions of Bush.
 
Anyone whose followed his statements and campaign rhetoric verses what he's done is in tune with this.
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Im not saying you're wrong here (every politician makes promises they cant keep) however it would help if you give specific examples when making claims like that so there is actually something to talk about instead of just making blanket statements and expecting people to accept them as fact.
 
alasdairm said:
you're fairly certain? ok, go ahead and post links. if not, i ask that you withdraw that claim and apologize.

alasdair
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You've already been caught and now want to go PM with your pathetic claim of being off topic when you made the challenge. I don't have time to look thru all your posts but a quick search of a few:

"bush administration hadn't been so duplicitous in the first place"

"Bush and his cronies -- who must soon vacate the White House -- are looting the U.S. Treasury of every dollar they can grab. They are swiping as much of the silverware as they can on their way out the door."

And the one you were already called out on...

"bush has done more to destroy goodwill towards america than any president in recent memory"
 
calm down. i wanted to take this to pm to save dragging this further off-topic.

"bush has done more to destroy goodwill towards america than any president in recent memory" is not name-calling. it's my analysis of his performance.

you tell people off for name-calling while you do it yourself. that's called hypocrisy. at least you don't deny it.

and your quote of this is just way off target: ""Bush and his cronies -- who must soon vacate the White House -- are looting the U.S. Treasury of every dollar they can grab. They are swiping as much of the silverware as they can on their way out the door.""

if you bothered to read the post, i was quoting michael moore. if you have a problem with that content, talk to michael moore. trying to tag me with something i simply quoted makes you look idiotic - you're really clutching at straws here...

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alasdair
 
I'll have to agree with alasdairm. What qwe and SubDude have cited alasdairm as saying, is criticism of GWB, NOT petty spouting of pejoratives. Although, its understandable that you cannot tell the difference SubDude... you ARE SubDude and all... this is pretty much expected of you. ;) (hint: maybe you should have taken up alasdairm's polite request to keep your previous post within pm, that way you wouldn't have made a fool out of yourself)
 
Richard Daley - outgoing mayor of Chicago..

*in response to a reporter making a critical remark about gun violence in chicago*

Grabs a gun from several sitting on display for a press meeting, "how about you come up here and i pop a round in your rear?

LOL Daleys a classic.. good riddence..
 
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