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I don't get it.
you don't get it because it's such a stretch...
in what sense is kathy griffin the "democratic party"?
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in what sense is kathy griffin the "democratic party"?
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#thingsreactionariessaythatwouldbeawesomeiftheyweretrue
lol, here's a great one thats similar
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kathy griffin...democratic party? bizarre.
even more so - antifa?? i reckon you'd be hard-pressed to find any genuine links between anti-fascist organisers and the democratic party.
they represent very different political ideologies (hard-left vs centre-right) and tactics (direct action vs representative democracy).
it's a very poor meme - not only because none of the things it links with the dems have any basis in reality - but also because the radical far-right equivalents (trump and his devoted fans in the KKK, neo-nazi movements, fascist street gangs and the butchers of the saudi royal family) actually do have distinct, obvious links.
this is well illustrated in the "proud boy" violence in NYC a couple of weeks back; fascist street gang attends an event hosted specifically by the GOP (an event glorifying and re-enacting the assassination of a japanese socialist) then bashes some people outside who were outnumbered 10 to 1 or more.
shitty memes and cognitive dissonance aside, the shameless support of the "proud boys" represents a further escalation in the fascist reality of the trump administration - just like mussolini's blackshirts, a gang that attacks and intimidates political rivals, who are rather conspicuously overlooked by law enforcement.
can you imagine if BLM flew people around the USA to commit politically-motivated acts of street violence? i suspect they'd be rounded up by the FBI before they could board flights to cross state lines to engage in riotous behaviour (or whatever the charges are generally associated with such things....when it's not the far-right).
The Proud Boys, The GOP And 'The Fascist Creep'
it's pretty scary that people are so fucking divided that a sizeable chunk don't even see anything wrong with the government being taken over and deconstructed by fascists who openly promote violence - but hate has been used to control people since time immemorial.
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I agree it is a pretty bad reach. I think the creators were trying to parallel anti-Trump/Republicans with Radical Islam, and slapping the Democratic label on those is a pretty bad reach.
the comparison i've always drawn with radical islam is with the far right.
both are fanatical, driven by hate - and they both commit acts of terrorism, violence and murder for ideological reasons.
it's interesting to me that the - perfectly understandable - hatred for muslim terrorists is not also held for neo-nazi terrorists. to me it makes no sense - but it does give a bit of insight into the zeitgeist (ie we're all fucking doomed).
both are fanatical, driven by hate - and they both commit acts of terrorism, violence and murder for ideological reasons.
it's interesting to me that the - perfectly understandable - hatred for muslim terrorists is not also held for neo-nazi terrorists. to me it makes no sense - but it does give a bit of insight into the zeitgeist (ie we're all fucking doomed).
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I guffawed so loudly when I saw this one heheh.
I lost all respect for Jim Carrey when I found out he was an anti-vaxxer.
I got my tetanus booster two weeks ago cause I got rusty metal gouged in my foot. It hurt my arm for a day and now I'm well. Very happy that I didn't choose the alternative, lockjaw, which leads to death in 30% of cases.
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I think, for Americans, the difference is muslim terrorists are 'over there' and primarily a boogeyman for fear agendas, allowing us to fund military (feel important, feel like we are doing right); compared to the neo-nazi's which are more 'your neighbor, but you don't know it'. I want to believe we have the same level of hate for blind zealots, regardless of where they come from, but it's a lot harder to voice it or act on it when you can't point to one and say 'HIM!', and it has a higher chance to hit you at home. It gest worse with the antifa and proud boy groups, who are your neighbors, and you don't necessarily know if you say something wrong around the wrong person they cause problems for you.
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Antifas aren't our neighbors, they're rich white kids in college living in Berkeley who don't have to worry about having work so they run around acting fools. Whereas Neo-Nazis COULD be your neighbor and are seemingly prominent.
I saw someone selling 'Trump 2020' flags outside the air show (which I attended because I love air power and America just as much as the trumpenproletariat) a few days ago. I'm pretty sure that guy is a Neo-Nazi, or at least the modern amalgamation of them since they get so upset at people using that term. Never seen any antifa folk 'round here though.
I saw someone selling 'Trump 2020' flags outside the air show (which I attended because I love air power and America just as much as the trumpenproletariat) a few days ago. I'm pretty sure that guy is a Neo-Nazi, or at least the modern amalgamation of them since they get so upset at people using that term. Never seen any antifa folk 'round here though.
that's not true at all - we are everywhere (and definitely all over the USA) and the vast, vast majority of us are not rich college kids. antifascists are all ages, come from all backgrounds.
you probably don't see people standing around proclaiming that they are "antifa", because that would probably be dangerous in a lot of places. anonymity is for safety - because neo-nazis tend to kill people who oppose them.
people don't become "antifas" for fun - it's because we believe it is necessary. it's not a game or an act, in my experience, and we would all rather be spending time doing other things in our lives. but this is important.
obviously there are some dickhead antifascists out there, and i cannot - and will not - speak for all of them, because it is not an organisation, but a group of autonomous individuals who operate under a shared understanding, and anti-fascist solidarity.
but it's utterly bizarre to me that people lap up the bullshit that has been propagated in the last year which paints anti-fascists as folk devils.
try to forget the MSM hype for a moment and ask yourself this - since when has fighting for a good cause (against fascism) been anathema to people in our respective countries?
unfortunately my grandparents are all dead now - but i wonder what they would have thought about people fighting fascists?
considering that defeating nazis was their whole generation's crowning achievement, i imagine they'd scoff at this idea that fascists and anti-fascists are somehow morally equivalent.
i find the false equivalence drawn between antifa and nazi/fascist groups to be offensive and childish.
"antifa" are good people stepping up to our communities from violent street gangs. it's funny how people are scared of "gangs", until they're white - then they don't get demonised. the blind spot for "white, home-grown" violent organisations is fascinating, really.
i don't blame people for thinking this way - the "otherness" of "anitifas" (and the massive amount of disinformation about who we are, what we do and why we do it) is a media construct. anti-fascists have been turned into a folk devil for disrupting the standard narrative as depicted in the news; if we're not acting on behalf of the state, or of the police - we must be the bad guys, huh?
the police say so, so it's gotta be true!
the thing about nazis and other terrorists is that they kill and injure innocent people for the purpose of intimidation and hatred.
it's true of muslim terrorists, it was true of the IRA and it was true of timothy mcveigh - and it is true of neo-nazis, but their methods are (often) different - although they are not averse to bombings (nor were the KKK).
the so-called proud boys haven't killed anyone yet that i know of, but when you see them 5 men stomping on a single guy's head and or big beefy guys kicking women in the face, it seems inevitable that will happen.
these groups have started crashing all sorts of events to threaten and assault people - even at candlelit vigils for muder victims.
these people talk about freedom of speech, but i have heard from many sources that any people engaging in any kind of vaguely left wing activity risk being physically attacked by these groups, with many organisations suggesting that activists should change the way they organise, that there is "safety in numbers" - and that they should consider carrying weapons.
to me that's a a clear sign that anti-fascist activism is vital, if it's gotten that bad. the police are not protecting people, so they need to protect themselves.
when mobs of nazis/fascists/white supremacists are able to mobilise on the streets without resistance, what happens? people die.
it is rarely acknowledged that anti-fascist activism - most of which is peaceful and non-violent - keeps those cowardly bastards too busy looking over their shoulders (and plotting ways to get us) to go out and lynch people, bash trans kids or indulge in other traditional neo-nazi past times.
there have been a lot of absurd things said about anti-fascists, especially in the US press, but the reality is that we are boys and girls (and non-binary folks) next door.
the idea that we are all privileged rich kids is a fabrication. most of us are seasoned activists in a range of causes such as environmental and anti-war movements. not everyone agrees with direct action tactics, but we believe that confronting fascists directly and making it difficult for them to organise and mobilise is a form essential pro-active self defence.
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