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Police Brutality Thread

PriestTheyCalledHim said:
It is not bias, 'racism', bigotry, hate, etc. It is the truth.

Have you ever lived in or been to a slum, hood, ghetto? Known any gang members or former gang members?
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Yes, I've been robbed by gang members at gun point on multiple occasions, sexually assaulted by a gang banger, and even beaten by black cops.
 
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PriestTheyCalledHim said:
He was holding a gun and threatening the police, and he certainly lived up to his nickname, and fulfilled his potential of being a 'lil homicide'.

The majority of Latin Americans both in the USA and other countries really dislike and hate cholos, gang bangers, hispanic/latin People in gangs, etc. It is the same with the majority of black people in the USA, they hate and do not like blacks who are thugs, in gangs, etc.

If you are in a gang, or have a gun or weapon in your hands or point it at police no matter what your race is, do not be surprised when you get shot.
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...it was a fucking kid who did something stupid... Again you're just cheering for death
 
alasdairm said:
it is a factor.

it also appears that he had already dropped the gun, the officer shouted "show me your fucking hands", the kid raised his hands but less than a second after the shout, he was shot.

alasdair
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y y of course, it's fucking horrific. I just didn't know this detail when I first watched it
 
Citizens need to start forming watch groups and interfering with arrests if they witness this kind of thing. All those bystanders... just watching Chauvin's knee on Floyd's neck. It would've taken just one human being to run in there and push the officer off to maybe save Floyd's life. People need to start civil disobedience to stop these pigs from killing people. The point of police is to detain people for due process, not execute them. It has to stop and we shouldn't be waiting for the government and the courts to do what needs to be done. They are too apologetic.

If a cop is witnessed trying to kill someone, the cop should be subject to citizen's arrest. If the citizens start getting shot at, then they should start arming and shoot back. If that's what reform takes, then so be it. The state is protecting these psychopaths from real consequences. Chauvin is so clearly guilty of murder, but even now some are apologizing for him.

Fuck this civil discourse crap. Citizens need to form watch groups and arm. The police are a threat to human life.
 
alasdairm said:
i'm not the kind of person who assumes my opinion is necessarily the truth.
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Yeah, sure.




deficiT said:
...it was a fucking kid who did something stupid... Again you're just cheering for death
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Dude, calm down. Pulling a gun and threatening cops isn't just something stupid. That's the thing that gets you dead.
 
✿Dai₷y✿ said:
Dude, calm down. Pulling a gun and threatening cops isn't just something stupid. That's the thing that gets you dead
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That's fine, it's still a child. People make mistakes, especially young ones. Still another person dead unnecessarily. I mean he dropped it, so why'd they kill him? Unless you believe that police should operate above the justice system? I understand why it happened and it's obviously a tense situation that could've gone either way, I'm still not cheering for Team Oink to blow another person's brains out like some people here. In the same sense that I wouldn't be cheering for the kid to have shot the cop. I just don't see police as having inherently more value than regular people.
 
Dude, if a 13 yo, a 98 yo man, a conjoined twin or a leprechaun had a gun pointed at you and you spent your life being in the service to the public protecting them as your job, would you just think..

"Hmm, Im a nasty police officer, my life isn't that much of a loss for my wife and kids, I better just let the little darling petal play with his gun and shoot me dead , his parents can come to my funeral".


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Its unfortunate that a non lethal shot wasn't what happened but seriously, put yourself in that cops shoes. Who cares who is holding a gun at them, will they die less if a kid shoots them?

The parents should be arrested.
 
Didn't the kid drop the gun before they shot him, though? If the gun is not longer being pointed at you, you the need to shoot has been eliminated.
 
✿Dai₷y✿ said:
Dude, if a 13 yo, a 98 yo man, a conjoined twin or a leprechaun had a gun pointed at you and you spent your life being in the service to the public protecting them as your job, would you just think..

"Hmm, Im a nasty police officer, my life isn't that much of a loss for my wife and kids, I better just let the little darling petal play with his gun and shoot me dead , his parents can come to my funeral".


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Its unfortunate that a non lethal shot wasn't what happened but seriously, put yourself in that cops shoes. Who cares who is holding a gun at them, will they die less if a kid shoots them?

The parents should be arrested.
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I definitely just said I understand why it happened and it was likely a split second decision. Not really blaming the cop just saying shootings are unfortunate, so I don't know what you're trying to argue. It isn't the polices job to protect the public, their job is to enforce the law and generate revenue for the State. Hence all the shooting unarmed people.

It is unfortunate that non lethal shots are not a thing. Seems like it's usually overkill and enough unarmed people get killed a year for it to not be acceptable.

What crime did the parents commit?
 
Foreigner said:
The state is protecting these psychopaths from real consequences.
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That's the problem there. If a bystander had tried to save Floyd (if he didn't get shot himself) he'd soon be convicted of assaulting a police officer. Attempted murder. Who knows what they'd get him for.

I don't disagree with your sentiments, but even if we all armed ourselves, they'd just bring out the tanks. If we got our own tanks, well then they'd have the military. They have all the infrastructure as well. And the airspace.
 
mal3volent said:
That's the problem there. If a bystander had tried to save Floyd (if he didn't get shot himself) he'd soon be convicted of assaulting a police officer. Attempted murder. Who knows what they'd get him for.

I don't disagree with your sentiments, but even if we all armed ourselves, they'd just bring out the tanks. If we got our own tanks, well then they'd have the military. They have all the infrastructure as well. And the airspace.
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It won't matter if we riot en mass. They can't run this country without us. The Floyd riots shut down entire cities and did property damage. That's economic dollars.
 
Good morning again all. Lovely day today. How's things that side? All good? Hope so.

Well my first shot this morning (no pun intended as always) is to say that, well, apparently not all South Africans are quite as enlightened as I am when it comes to law enforcement. And particularly when it comes to law enforcement in America! Either this or there's something in the air or the water that side of the world that's affecting thought processes or something.

Of course: the narrative doing the rounds here is that this WAS based on race. Worse still: this same narrative is taking hold in one or two other African countries this morning. And believe me that's probably just the beginning.

I keep saying this: somebody, somewhere, is pushing this race narrative. And it's seriously starting to piss me off.

Needless to say: this mother fucker is being portrayed as a "gentle giant", wouldn't hurt a fly, good father, blah, blah, fucking blah. You know. Fuck the fact that he lost his shit, charged the officers, beat up on them (and this after a taser having being used just by the way).

Yes he fucking deserved to get shot and die! Period! I'm sick of this PC bullshit. And I'm just getting warmed up now this morning.




Edit. Just released i.e. body cam footage from two of the three officers.

I suppose I could make an opposing argument here i.e. don't fuck with South Africans (tasered and four shots later and the dude still made it to hospital)! 🤣 But I won't do that.

Oh and further news: apparently he went out to "clear his head". From what? Anybody wanna hazard a guess?

 
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Moving on. Here's another video I found of our thirteen year old angel.

This one, at very least, shows the incident from two different angles. Turn the sound off (the talking heads) and watch carefully (although the commentary is pretty accurate and relatively untainted I'll admit).

Watch nice the events. Dude runs until he finds a gap in the fence, pauses momentarily with his back turned to the officer so that he could take his weapon and throw it to one side behind the fence, and then turns to face the officer with his hands up, and by which time I can assure you the officer was already in the process of firing. We are talking split second timing here. 800 MILLISECONDS to be exact! Too fucking bad. But just watch what's going to happen with this.

And even if the above isn't palatable: bear in mind the circumstances. We're looking at body cam footage here. Quick little video lesson: these cameras, same as those on your cell phone, will do as much as they can, under low lighting conditions, to make an image brighter without distorting or pixelating the footage to the point where the quality would be of no use. In other words: in the video you're seeing a much brighter image than the human eye is capable of seeing. Chances are high that the officer, under those conditions, could not see a lot of what we're now able to see on body cam footage after the fact. If you're really interested: download and watch the video footage in an editor that can darken the image and come close to what the officer would be able to see. Couple this with the stress of the situation? And there you go. Job fucking done.

Note that the above doesn't detract from my posts of last night i.e. had this kid been in a different and better place then he'd probably not have been out there in the first place. But that for fuck sure isn't the officer's fault nor should it be his problem.

And don't anybody even think of playing the race card here. These officers had no way of knowing who, or what, they were dealing with when called to the scene. Apparently they have some fancy monitor or the other that can pick up shots fired in the city and that's what they were responding to.

 
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✿Dai₷y✿ said:
Dude, if a 13 yo, a 98 yo man, a conjoined twin or a leprechaun had a gun pointed at you and you spent your life being in the service to the public protecting them as your job, would you just think..

"Hmm, Im a nasty police officer, my life isn't that much of a loss for my wife and kids, I better just let the little darling petal play with his gun and shoot me dead , his parents can come to my funeral".


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Its unfortunate that a non lethal shot wasn't what happened but seriously, put yourself in that cops shoes. Who cares who is holding a gun at them, will they die less if a kid shoots them?

The parents should be arrested.
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Fuck. Yes! Thank you.

It's got fuck all to do with race, age, or anything else. Socioeconomic conditions: maybe or even probably (I'd go so far as to say definitely). But that's not law enforcement's fault nor is it their problem nor should it be their problem.

All of these pro-life and anti law enforcement pundits. I'd love to put them in a position where they'd be forced to make a split second decision between themselves and their own well being and a some unknown person who is behaving erratically (at very least) in some dark alley somewhere.

I know there are good officers and bad officers. That applies to any country in the world. But the bad officers are in the minority and by a huge margin. I'd stake my life own life on that (for what that'd be worth).
 
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