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Police Brutality Thread

PriestTheyCalledHim said:
Nice projection of yourself.

I am not right wing, left wing, nationalist, racist, etc.

There are people of all races in prisons in the USA and around the world for crimes they did. Race or people being black or poor, has nothing to do with it.
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You certainly come across a little racist, and definitely right wing
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
Of course. Being put into prison or jail for committing a crime and then working there, is not slavery.
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Many do not get paid. And even those who do, its still slavery just because you get paid 10 cents an hour. They charge you 25$ a day for being in there if you have any money...
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
They made the choice to sell drugs, got cocky, stayed in the game too long, were not discreet, etc.

It is not as though black people in the USA or worldwide are all drug dealers or criminals, to assume this is actual racism. The majority are not and prisons in the USA are not completely full or at 100% occupancy of black people.
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The majority of inmates are African american.
 
Zephyn said:
Many do not get paid. And even those who do, its still slavery just because you get paid 10 cents an hour. They charge you 25$ a day for being in there if you have any money...
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So what? Do you pay taxes? Then you are helping to pay for their housing, food, medical care, etc.
 
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Police in America are able to bomb entire neighborhoods without accountability or repercussions. The government has been fabricating lies about activists forever, ie. COINTELPRO, McCarthyism, assassination of Fred Hampton, MLK, Malcolm X, etc. Ad nauseam.

You do the corporate States work for it when you ignore most of history.

Priest a shill for authoritarianism; confirmed
 
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PriestTheyCalledHim said:
Nice projection of yourself.

I am not right wing, left wing, nationalist, racist, etc.

There are people of all races in prisons in the USA and around the world for crimes they did. Race or people being black or poor, has nothing to do with it.
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No shit, but proportionally it comes down hardest on one specific community. That's by design.
 
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PriestTheyCalledHim said:
Not necessarily, unless you are in Sub-Saharan African countries. In the USA and most other countries prison inmates are all races/ethnicities.
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No, they are majority African American. As a direct result of poverty. As a direct result of slavery and oppression.
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
They made the choice to sell drugs, got cocky, stayed in the game too long, were not discreet, etc.

It is not as though black people in the USA or worldwide are all drug dealers or criminals, to assume this is actual racism. The majority are not and prisons in the USA are not completely full or at 100% occupancy of black people.
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Those "choices" were made under the duress of hundreds of years of economic manipulation and tyranny. The US government created all of these "criminals" with it's failed policy and broken justice system.

Where the hell did you read me saying that, and why would you assume I don't want liberation for all oppressed people?
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
Those are not racist myths. George Floyd died from an overdose of fentanyl/heroin and METH.

If you watch this video he is nodding out, and before he is even out of the car he was driving on lots of drugs he is saying he cannot breathe.



He goes into the same histrionics as he did when arrested before:

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I get your point, ya know.

It matters not what colour anyone is, if anyone is affected by drugs or alcohol and behaves belligerently, being uncooperative etc then that becomes a factor in any incident.

I heard the original autopsy favoured heart failure and drugs .

His death looks like it was brought on by being kneeled on and the drugs would have made the guy un cooperative, could have contributed to the death but in any event


Saying that an incident might not be entirely race related does not mean anyone suggesting anything else is immediately racist. That's just pathetic, ya know.



I dont read Priest as racist, never have.

Clearly there's prejudice in the States but not to the point where it excludes any other reason for things happening. Deaths like this shouldn't occur, they do and will continue to happen.


I would hold anyone filming and not acting just as guilty, but whatever, that's what people do these days, record life not live it.
 
✿Dai₷y✿ said:
I get your point, ya know.

It matters not what colour anyone is, if anyone is affected by drugs or alcohol and behaves belligerently, being uncooperative etc then that becomes a factor in any incident.

I heard the original autopsy favoured heart failure and drugs .

His death looks like it was brought on by being kneeled on and the drugs would have made the guy un cooperative, could have contributed to the death but in any event


Saying that an incident might not be entirely race related does not mean anyone suggesting anything else is immediately racist. That's just pathetic, ya know.



I dont read Priest as racist, never have.

Clearly there's prejudice in the States but not to the point where it excludes any other reason for things happening. Deaths like this shouldn't occur, they do and will continue to happen.


I would hold anyone filming and not acting just as guilty, but whatever, that's what people do these days, record life not live it.
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If that's all it was, no one would be going in on him. You didn't find any of that 'it was a good city till the africans moved in' stuff a little weird?:

I don't think he actively hates anyone for the color of their skin, but that is not the only standard for what racism constitutes. He simply has a flawed understanding of racism and sociology, which is made clear by his eating up colonialist myth and spitting it out.

He is trying so hard to make A point, that he misses THE point.
 
dalpat077 said:
For some obscure reason I seem to recall seeing that movie (1997 remake). But for the life of me I cannot remember how it went. Just noticed it's (1997 remake) on YouTube Movies (as of Jan. 8, 2021) (how's that for pretty good timing). Thanks a lot.
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the remake is awful. watch the 1957 original.

Pumpkin2021 said:
Who played the lead guy
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henry fonda.

12 angry men is my favourite film of all time.

alasdair
 
alasdairm said:
the remake is awful. watch the 1957 original.



henry fonda.

12 angry men is my favourite film of all time.

alasdair
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Many thanks alasdair. Henry Fonda was most excellent in his performance. I enjoyed it so much I am going to re-watch it today. I am a Classic film aficionado and the black and whites are my favorite.
 
I need to chime in here with something that only struck me now. And odd seeing as I posted a link to this earlier this morning but, as I say, only occurred to me now.

Mr. Floyd’s family received a settlement of $27 MILLION USD. Say that a few times. Then think on the below.

@mr peabody has a thread going in CEPS on the topic of tiny home projects and keeps it updated. Do yourselves a favor and go look at how many homes are built and homeless, addicts, veterans, etc. are given another chance and a leg up in life and only for a few HUNDRED thousand USD per project. Note: not per home but per project!

There’s actually something really really wrong with this. I have no idea what the situation is in Minneapolis but logic tells me that there are bound to be homeless, addicts, veterans etc. on the street and that just need another shot at life. Hell. Maybe even somebody like Mr. Floyd was in this category.

@xxsicknessxx picked up on this settlement also earlier today. Sorry. I did not want to quote your post i.e. am trying to keep race out of this. But post noted. Thank you for the post.

In addition: there’s the money the public has donated. And of course who is getting the money for his biography?

I sure hope his family give some thought to this.

It’s mind blowing actually. And then we have a thirteen year old shot dead, police officer in shit again, but I will bet you that thirteen year old wouldn’t have been on the street getting up to shit if he had a nice home and family or mentor and hope and some pride. And if not him: I’m sure there are many others to which this would be applicable.

Or am I being way too idealistic here?
 
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cduggles said:
I wouldn’t characterize it that way.
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Following on.

All the ins and outs aside. I’m not saying for them to get nothing and just give it all up. But just 10% would make a big difference not?

And assuming that Mr. Floyd did have some decency in him (and which I believe he probably did): well that’d make him proud and be a legacy worth leaving. And for damn sure worth more than building monuments and statues and whatever else. You know: something good out of a bad situation i.e. at least some winners out of it.

Seems excessive to me to be honest. But I suppose there’s some legal beagle accounting that went into determination of the figure.

Pity your interest rates are so low. Here they could get that 10% in interest in one year at a proper bank i.e. no need to even part with their capital.

And anecdotally: not sure how true this is but hasn’t one of the BLM leaders, some woman, just been caught out on buying a few luxury homes? While the BLM protesters themselves, for the most part, maybe don’t have $2 USD to rub together?
 
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