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Police Brutality Thread

birdup.snaildown said:
I didn't say that.

It's a bit odd that nobody is responding about the fact that he said "I can't breathe" four times before he was allegedly choked
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birdup.snaildown said:
In that video Priest posted, he says "I can't breathe" four times in the car before Chauvin kneels on him. He also says he can't get in the car because he's claustrophobic and he has COVID. It seems like he's saying whatever he can to not get in the car. He's also kicking the officers and thrashing around. They struggle to get him in the car for ages before restraining him.

I don't think Floyd is the first person to try and talk his way out of an arrest by any means necessary. It's probably a pretty common occurrence for officers.

If he didn't say the words "I can't breath" four times before having his windpipe restricted, the prosecution's argument would make a lot more sense to me.



You know you love it.
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Do you think he couldn't breathe because he was having a massive panic attack or do you think something else is at play here?
 
What can the Defense Lawyer do to negate or argue todays devastating medical testimony. Man, If I was Chauvin I would be needing some benzos today as he had to have been absolutely terrified that this is the testimony that will convict him. He and his lawyer have been dreading this day for sure.
 
Pumpkin2021 said:
Do you think he couldn't breathe because he was having a massive panic attack or do you think something else is at play here?
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I think he was having a massive panic attack and chauvin is such a calculating psychopath cold blooded murderer he took it as an opportunity to kill him with his knee thinking those I can't breath comments before hand would get him off
 
@Pumpkin2021
I don't know, but it's an incredible coincidence if it's unrelated.

Tobin (the pulmonary expert) said s healthy person would have died under the same circumstances. In other words, the drugs + Floyd's medical conditions + the fact that he said he couldn't breathe four times = absolutely nothing.

I don't see how he could possibly know that? He didn't even examine the body. They said he spent a couple of hours watching footage, which isn't a lot of time considering there is more than a couple of hours of footage.
 
In broad day light unarmed? Much easier to ruin his career but he's probably have gotten away with that easier than this BS.
 
birdup.snaildown said:
So has Chauvin murdered other people or did he become a cold calculating killer on that day, suddenly, in the heat of the moment?
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From what I heard there were several (many) other complaints against him in the past. (As I'm sure is common with many senior officers)
 
Its pretty clear it's first degree murder, the charges he even got at bs.
 
Zephyn said:
I think he was having a massive panic attack and chauvin is such a calculating psychopath cold blooded murderer he took it as an opportunity to kill him with his knee thinking those I can't breath comments before hand would get him off
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Yeah, Mr. Smirky Smirk certainly looked like he was enjoying it and not giving a rats ass about the bystanders comments nor the paramedics. Bet he cares now.
 
People might think I'm bullshitting but if I saw something like that I'd have drop kicked the fucking cop off his neck and tried to cause a scene until paramedics arrived
 
birdup.snaildown said:
So has Chauvin murdered other people or did he become a cold calculating killer on that day, suddenly, in the heat of the moment?
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Hard to say what Chauvin has done throughout his career.I haven't heard of any other use of force incidents. I think he was just getting tired of the constant crime and decided to show Floyd who was boss. But it backfired big time.
 
@Zephyn

It is not clearly first degree murder.

First-degree murder - is any intentional murder that is wilful and premeditated with malice aforethought. Second-degree murder - is any intentional murder with malice aforethought but is not premeditated or planned in advance.
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Zephyn said:
People might think I'm bullshitting but if I saw something like that I'd have drop kicked the fucking cop off his neck and tried to cause a scene until paramedics arrived
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You would be dead.
 
birdup.snaildown said:
@Pumpkin2021
I don't know, but it's an incredible coincidence if it's unrelated.

Tobin (the pulmonary expert) said s healthy person would have died under the same circumstances. In other words, the drugs + Floyd's medical conditions + the fact that he said he couldn't breathe four times = absolutely nothing.

I don't see how he could possibly know that? He didn't even examine the body. They said he spent a couple of hours watching footage, which isn't a lot of time considering there is more than a couple of hours of footage.
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I don't think it means absolutely nothing in terms of Tobins testimony. I haven't seen it. It all means something but the only thing that really matters is Cause of Death. That's all the jury wants to hear. And I think they heard it today. It's not over 'til its over but I'm pretty sure today is going to have a big impact on the jury.
 
birdup.snaildown said:
It's a bit odd that nobody is responding about the fact that he said "I can't breathe" four times before he was allegedly choked.
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It's a bit odd? Allegedly choked?

So, if he said he couldn't breathe while someone was forcefully trying to shove him into the confined space of the vehicle and attempting to take away his freedom, this somehow absolves Chauvin of all wrongdoing here? Or wait, maybe this was somehow indicative of a fentanyl overdose?

Let me guess... I may get a response like this:

birdup.snaildown said:
I didn't say that.
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Sure. The way you pose your questions, in context with the rest of your posts, implies a lot. Unfortunately, it seems like a lot of misdirection away from the actual facts of what happened and what caused Floyd's death.
 
birdup.snaildown said:
@Pumpkin2021

Floyd definitely used excessive force and (I agree) it backfired, but I don't believe he intended to kill him.
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No. There was no intent. That's why they didn't charge 1st degree only 2nd and 3rd I believe. If I was a betting woman I would think verdict will be 3rd or Manslaughter. I think he will do at least 10 years at the minimum.
 
@Pumpkin2021

Yeah, but he's not going to get a fair trial. It's impossible at this point. Just look at some of the comments in this thread. There's too much pressure to convict. Reasonable doubt exists in this situation. If the victim was white, Chauvin would be less likely to be convicted of murder... Having read an excerpt of Tobin's testimony, it appears as if the pressure influenced his expert opinion also. If he says anything other than Chauvin definitely killed him, he'll be crucified.
 
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