italianstallion
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could this be from the alcohol and not getting enough sleep as i am dealing with my recovery process?
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please help..post MDMA come down......so scared....losing hope
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your thoughts are totally normal as i can see me in your process...how long it tooks? give it 6 month please...its soooo slow....dont worry for alcohol, actually im having hang overs even without no problems but in the first 6 months try to be more healthy, i mean...2 beers, if your friends dindt understand your state , fuck your friends up!
for me was (and its been) omega3 every day, and not sure if makes it faster (i think even without it your body will restore the SERT and chemical balance) but takes time...and never ends but enoguth to make you feel almost normal
. A traffic accident could be worse for your head, try to be positive....spend your time in videogames as i was doing, because takes your brain focus in something, only for recovery...i waste my time in league of legends btw..xD
for me was (and its been) omega3 every day, and not sure if makes it faster (i think even without it your body will restore the SERT and chemical balance) but takes time...and never ends but enoguth to make you feel almost normal
. A traffic accident could be worse for your head, try to be positive....spend your time in videogames as i was doing, because takes your brain focus in something, only for recovery...i waste my time in league of legends btw..xDitalianstallion
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Well I dont understand why my pressure in my head started again, and libido is shot again(sexual dysfunction),test feels low, heart papiltations are going again i feel like i am going to have a heart attack......i havent even taken any drugs! Im starting to think its stress related kinda....maybe i just got super nervous when i saw everybody doing drugs and especially since a girl had a fucken meltdown right in front of me and it brought back old memories.....im afraid to play sports that im gonna die....im scared that what if i did take fucken bath salts...can i recover from this?......did the alcohol and staying up late do this.....?.....I need some good solid advice can you people please help......i cant take this anymore.....why as soon as start to feel better this happens.......if something bad was gonna happen would it have happened by now.....its been 3 months since i used..and like 5 months before that...and yes i feel a lot better...I feel im at like 80%
PLEASE ANYBODY THAT HAS INFO .....
I KNOW MY OLD FRIENDS ARENT MY REAL FRIENDS BC THEY OFFERED ME DRUGS AGAIN AND I SAID NO FUCKEN WAY....I want to strangle all of them....for even offering me there bullshit drugs.....i have taken real molly and smoked real weed .....there shit is whack.....and now i have to fucken suffer bc of it.....my father warned me......he said your gonna fuck yourself up for life and i did....i had a freak out in february and i didnt learn my lesson....im such a fool....
does anybody know anything about bathsalts/? or has anybody taken them?
can someone call me please
PLEASE ANYBODY THAT HAS INFO .....
I KNOW MY OLD FRIENDS ARENT MY REAL FRIENDS BC THEY OFFERED ME DRUGS AGAIN AND I SAID NO FUCKEN WAY....I want to strangle all of them....for even offering me there bullshit drugs.....i have taken real molly and smoked real weed .....there shit is whack.....and now i have to fucken suffer bc of it.....my father warned me......he said your gonna fuck yourself up for life and i did....i had a freak out in february and i didnt learn my lesson....im such a fool....
does anybody know anything about bathsalts/? or has anybody taken them?
can someone call me please
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Folley
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Bro... calm down. You're just worrying yourself and making things MUCH worse, I've been there... when you stop giving a shit about it (which may be the hardest thing you'll ever do in your life.), it goes away, but when you worry about it all day it only gets worse and worse.
I'm almost certain that's the problem. Sleep is INCREDIBLY important for serotonin production, and alcohol is a poison and will directly hamper ANY recover you have already made. Exercise, proper diet, 8 hours of sleep and abstinence from drugs (legal or illegal) are the most important things you can do right now.
I'm almost certain that's the problem. Sleep is INCREDIBLY important for serotonin production, and alcohol is a poison and will directly hamper ANY recover you have already made. Exercise, proper diet, 8 hours of sleep and abstinence from drugs (legal or illegal) are the most important things you can do right now.
italianstallion
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FOLLEY -can you describe what you felt in the beggining and during the process of recovery ..certain stages...symptoms wise....please.....? will i get back to almost normal or my normal state ?..how do you feel now?..i know everybody's brain is different...do you know that they are giving out bath salts and that people think its molly....what if this what they gave me? ......im sorry about being freaked out but its my life im thinking about here pretty important to me....i have a hard time concentrating....can stress make this worse?....what about running really hard and getting heart up will i be ok?
i have had trouble sleeping the last few months.....sometimes falling sleep and i wake up the same time every morning...8 ish.....
i have had trouble sleeping the last few months.....sometimes falling sleep and i wake up the same time every morning...8 ish.....
Folley
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Bath salts is just a term used to scare people away from legal drugs. There are many diverse and almost completely different chemicals sold under that disguise, some are nasty and horrible, and some are actually some pretty fun and interesting chemicals.
How did I feel when this all hit me? Depressed, confused, SCARED, alone, suicidal... I had frequent mood swings and if I had gone to the doctor I have no doubts they would have diagnosed me with Manic Depression and would have tried to give me an SSRI (something I do not want). I was in a state of constant depression for about a month before it started getting better... and it was another 11 months before I got back to my old self. The thing is though, I was really keeping myself in that same position. It took one mushroom trip for me to look at my life, realize I didn't need to put up with all that bull shit and I've completely left depression and anxiety in the dust for the last few months.
Will stress make it worse? SO MUCH FUCKING WORSE. Like, exponentially. Absolutely nothing turns into a giant problem and you're crying all night over your girl not saying "I love you" the right way. It turns you into a little bitchy teenage girl, basically. When your living healthy and not dealing with these problems, you'll find it almost goes away completely.
Will it get better? Yes. Everything does with time. You're simply in the initial panic stage... where you realize you fucked up, and are terrified from the consequences.... but worrying about it just makes it worse. What happened, happened, and there's no changing that now. So might as well make the best of it, try to put it out of mind and just go on with life, no? That's what you'll end up doing eventually, might as well do it sooner than later.
Sleep is so directly related to serotonin, melatonin (a serotonin metabolite) is responsible for getting you into a natural sleep rhythm. It also may help your serotonin system recover, but there's no direct evidence of this. At the least sleeping every night is going to help a ton, so I'd recommend you look into taking melatonin at night.
How did I feel when this all hit me? Depressed, confused, SCARED, alone, suicidal... I had frequent mood swings and if I had gone to the doctor I have no doubts they would have diagnosed me with Manic Depression and would have tried to give me an SSRI (something I do not want). I was in a state of constant depression for about a month before it started getting better... and it was another 11 months before I got back to my old self. The thing is though, I was really keeping myself in that same position. It took one mushroom trip for me to look at my life, realize I didn't need to put up with all that bull shit and I've completely left depression and anxiety in the dust for the last few months.
Will stress make it worse? SO MUCH FUCKING WORSE. Like, exponentially. Absolutely nothing turns into a giant problem and you're crying all night over your girl not saying "I love you" the right way. It turns you into a little bitchy teenage girl, basically. When your living healthy and not dealing with these problems, you'll find it almost goes away completely.
Will it get better? Yes. Everything does with time. You're simply in the initial panic stage... where you realize you fucked up, and are terrified from the consequences.... but worrying about it just makes it worse. What happened, happened, and there's no changing that now. So might as well make the best of it, try to put it out of mind and just go on with life, no? That's what you'll end up doing eventually, might as well do it sooner than later.
Sleep is so directly related to serotonin, melatonin (a serotonin metabolite) is responsible for getting you into a natural sleep rhythm. It also may help your serotonin system recover, but there's no direct evidence of this. At the least sleeping every night is going to help a ton, so I'd recommend you look into taking melatonin at night.
cope
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Hey italianstallion,
pretty much what folley said...
i am at month 8 now in recovery, its very slow but it gets better.
days/ weeks where you feel like shit again are normal, i still get them. i still mix up words and shit but i stopped to care.
try to relax, i know it seems very hard, but eventually you will get tired of worrying, which is a good thing.
many have gone through it and came out of it, you will too !
time will fix it.
pretty much what folley said...
i am at month 8 now in recovery, its very slow but it gets better.
days/ weeks where you feel like shit again are normal, i still get them. i still mix up words and shit but i stopped to care.
try to relax, i know it seems very hard, but eventually you will get tired of worrying, which is a good thing.
many have gone through it and came out of it, you will too !
time will fix it.
that happens to my the first months...i hated to wake up...a new hell again
, but today there is no hell My sex was also fucked ...(first because the mdma...that makes me drives crazy....too much crazy!!!) later by ssris, and now IS PERFECT
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littlestar88
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Hi, was hoping someone can help me or reassure me that these symptoms sound common and know if it will go away. I did MDMA (second time in my life) over a few days (0.5g) around 6 months ago. I haven't taken any since and I've cut out alcohol too. I exercise every day (30-40mins) and have changes my diet completely. Symptoms I have to this very day are:
1. Dark Eye floaters all the time
2. Tinnitus with multiple types of sound (worried about the most) that ring 24hrs a day with slight sensitivity to sound.
3. Constant pressure on the roof of my nose which gives me constant tension headache and a weird tight feeling in my teeth.
4. Feel quite shaky, vibration feeling in nose and teeth when I lay down.
I'm scared that I will never feel the same again and im confused as I don't feel anxious but the symptoms still persist. I really don't want to take any antidepressants or anything like that and rather do things the natural way. Can anyone help me? Please
1. Dark Eye floaters all the time
2. Tinnitus with multiple types of sound (worried about the most) that ring 24hrs a day with slight sensitivity to sound.
3. Constant pressure on the roof of my nose which gives me constant tension headache and a weird tight feeling in my teeth.
4. Feel quite shaky, vibration feeling in nose and teeth when I lay down.
I'm scared that I will never feel the same again and im confused as I don't feel anxious but the symptoms still persist. I really don't want to take any antidepressants or anything like that and rather do things the natural way. Can anyone help me? Please
Darksidesam
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q.1 do you listen to lots of loud music?
q.2 do you smoke much cannabis
q.2 do you smoke much cannabis
littlestar88
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Hi Darksidesam,
Q1. No, not at all I hardly listen to music on my headphones and I got tinnitus roughly one month after taking MDMA, and the floaters, static vision also came roughly the same time. And I have more sounds in my ears then when it initially started, which was one ringing tone.
Q2. No, I used to smoke here and there around 4 years ago - enough to count with both my hands. I did take literally one puff of a splif on the day I took MDMA. Could that cause the ling torture? and I did also drink alcahol when taking MDMA, but I haven't taken a sip since.
What about your psychology...i mean..anxiety, depression??
For tinnitus...next experiment: put your little finger in your both hears...move your jaw...do you listen something werid out of normalilty? do you have jaw pain in the mornins? tinnitus can be done for bruxism and tjm problems. i had this blurry vision in my first months of depression, but wasnt floaters or snow...just everything was bright.
For tinnitus...next experiment: put your little finger in your both hears...move your jaw...do you listen something werid out of normalilty? do you have jaw pain in the mornins? tinnitus can be done for bruxism and tjm problems. i had this blurry vision in my first months of depression, but wasnt floaters or snow...just everything was bright.
you should seek professional care.
littlestar88
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Heya derok,
I don't have pain in the mornings, no jaw clicking nothing like that but I did see a doc who said I have tmj. The only pain I have is pressure which is centralised around my head, sinus and back teeth (elastic tight feeling). Ermm Postnatal depression runs in my family. I tend to worry quite a lot but nothing that gave me physical symptoms in the past. Can't understand why I still have tinnitus, eye floaters and tension headaches. Is this normal? Sorry I'm new to all this stuff. Wish I didn't do MDMA.
Heya derok,
I don't have pain in the mornings, no jaw clicking nothing like that but I did see a doc who said I have tmj. The only pain I have is pressure which is centralised around my head, sinus and back teeth (elastic tight feeling). Ermm Postnatal depression runs in my family. I tend to worry quite a lot but nothing that gave me physical symptoms in the past. Can't understand why I still have tinnitus, eye floaters and tension headaches. Is this normal? Sorry I'm new to all this stuff. Wish I didn't do MDMA.
Heya derok,
I don't have pain in the mornings, no jaw clicking nothing like that but I did see a doc who said I have tmj. The only pain I have is pressure which is centralised around my head, sinus and back teeth (elastic tight feeling). Ermm Postnatal depression runs in my family. I tend to worry quite a lot but nothing that gave me physical symptoms in the past. Can't understand why I still have tinnitus, eye floaters and tension headaches. Is this normal? Sorry I'm new to all this stuff. Wish I didn't do MDMA.
Tension can be explained because as u said , you had tmj, that means bruxism, in the night u put your teeth together and the jaw muscles are in fact in the head sides, they put some pressure in your head as well as the makes you have headaches. Go to doctor of dentist and ask for a mouth guard to debilitate your temporal muscles...and makes you headaches every night better.
Vision must to get better, but happens with normal anxierty issues so, when your brains rewired a little bit better tin the frontal brain, i will be better (i just found that ppl suffer it for years and suddenly happens to recover...so just calm down! recovery happens now or later...but happens!)
HarrytheHead
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Italianstallion, it's been quite a few months, how are you doing now?
What about you Derok? I followed your other post too.
This chick gave me .2 for my first time ever and I overheated, panicked, sweated hard. It's been two months and I have made incredible progress. First few weeks were unbearable panic attacks, then came anxiety disorder and painful depression. Doc gave me SSRI and Xanax. Since using the SSRI, the symptoms have lessened a lot and I don't even need the benzo. Still in recovery mode though. I went to yoga today to cleanse mind and body and during one exercise I lifted my head and felt extremely high as if I ate 6 weed brownies! Not exaggerating a bit. I had to walk out and splash some water on myself and sit. Reminded myself that my brain is bruised and I will get better. Reading these posts about people getting better is very comforting.
So how are you Derok? Do you think I am on the right track with an SSRI. I am using it to help me function which is working. I am also using the absolute minimum dosage and don't plan on using it long term.
What about you Derok? I followed your other post too.
This chick gave me .2 for my first time ever and I overheated, panicked, sweated hard. It's been two months and I have made incredible progress. First few weeks were unbearable panic attacks, then came anxiety disorder and painful depression. Doc gave me SSRI and Xanax. Since using the SSRI, the symptoms have lessened a lot and I don't even need the benzo. Still in recovery mode though. I went to yoga today to cleanse mind and body and during one exercise I lifted my head and felt extremely high as if I ate 6 weed brownies! Not exaggerating a bit. I had to walk out and splash some water on myself and sit. Reminded myself that my brain is bruised and I will get better. Reading these posts about people getting better is very comforting.
So how are you Derok? Do you think I am on the right track with an SSRI. I am using it to help me function which is working. I am also using the absolute minimum dosage and don't plan on using it long term.
Darksidesam
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i think SSRI is a wrong move ^
Im not sure if it does raise your serotonin levels in fact it just fried me altogether, psychosis insomnia depression etc
The benzo temporarily as you improve, and then you should be tapered off of that by your GP
Im not sure if it does raise your serotonin levels in fact it just fried me altogether, psychosis insomnia depression etc
The benzo temporarily as you improve, and then you should be tapered off of that by your GP
HarrytheHead
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This is the tough decision. SSRI vs all natural recovery. I spoke to two doctors (+psychiatrist), going for a third opinion this week. They all say my symptoms are like panic disorder and I should take it. I know they are not experienced with MDMA, but it's hard to argue with multiple medical professionals.
I don't know. I still feel mild psychosis, insomnia and depression but that's not the SSRI, I had those x3 before even starting the SSRI. Things are getting better slowly, but I don't know if its the medicine or me. Definitely a super SLOW healing process I am learning. I might start a post asking about success stories, positivity is the ultimate healer here.
I don't know. I still feel mild psychosis, insomnia and depression but that's not the SSRI, I had those x3 before even starting the SSRI. Things are getting better slowly, but I don't know if its the medicine or me. Definitely a super SLOW healing process I am learning. I might start a post asking about success stories, positivity is the ultimate healer here.
HarrytheHead
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Dark side, did your problems come while on the SSRI or when you were tapering/withdrawing?
I went through the same debate. I distrusted my doctors and the shrink because "they just didn't get what I was going through." I was diagnosed with Temporary panic disorder too.
I chose no meds and I eventually recovered. You have to trust yourself. If meds make you feel better, take them. Just have a long term plan so you aren't on them too long.
I chose no meds and I eventually recovered. You have to trust yourself. If meds make you feel better, take them. Just have a long term plan so you aren't on them too long.