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Please Help. I'm hungry, homeless and scared.

Look back over the history of the world.
There has always been a problem with people being BUMS and homeless. It is a problem in every country in the world.
We can give some people all the opportunity they could ever need, and they would still be bums.
Should we turn our backs on them? Of course not. But you have to accept, that there will always be this problem.
 
I don't consider myself an overly racist person though I have grown up in surroundings that would make any person turn against fellow men and women.
I have wandered the streets in Cairns, Nth Queensland, and I've seen aboriginal communities, and you can't tell me the government isn't giving them enough. In Cairns and surrounding areas, its gotten so bad that you can't walk the streets without 12 - 15yr old aboriginal boys and girls asking for cigarettes, abusing tourists and locals, and just making our beautiful place untidy. I used to live next to a housing commission house where there was at least 15 aboriginals from the ages of 1 to 50 living there. The lawns were never mowed, dead cars in the yard, screaming kids all hours of the night. It got to the point were one of them set our car alight, broke into our house and stole from us. He was 16 and got away with it all. The let him live in the house still after all of this had happened.
I have sympathy for the people that are out on their luck, depression, loss of life and loved ones.. but people that are given everything, a house, money, clothes, cars, offered jobs and STILL decide to live as bums, well, i have nothing for them.
I have worked hard for everything i have (which isn't much - but it gets me by) and i'm proud that even in my darkest moments i've managed to keep myself going. There is enough support out there for people that want help so there's no real excuse.
The best story i've ever read was about a lady in Cairns that had lived in a park all her life, drank metho, had 3 kids to different fathers and basically bumed her way through life. Her mother and father were the same and so were her grandparents and so on. She woke up in a gutter one morning not knowing where her kids were or anything. That's when she decided enough was enough. She got her kids, and started to piece together her life. She got welfare, a housing commision house and a job. Put her kids in school and bought her own car. While this was all helped out by the government... she still got the motivation to pull herself out of the rutt she was in.
It can be done. It has been done.. they just need to want it.
I would give someone a room and food and everything if i knew it would make a difference.
 
This is not directed at anyone posting here, but growing up in Echuca, you do lose respect for the aboriginal communities as a whole.
When my friends from Melbourne (I have been living in Melbourne for 5 years) start to talk and defend aboriginals as a whole, I just think that they are the ignorant one's as they have not seen what it is really like.
When people say it is generalising and it just a few bad apples etc., I turn around and say that it is the opposite. It's a few good apples that give people the impression that they are really trying to make good. The majority don't want job's, when they get them they come into work stoned, drunk or high, and we wouldn't let this pass with a white male would we?
There are a few aboriginal's that I am friends with who hold steady job's and are generally great people. These friends are treated badly from other aboriginal's for being friends with white people, and they hold the same views of the aboriginal community as I do.
Now I know the problem's they face, and don't sit there and say "damn redneck" etc, I work in an office where we rent an office to the Ministry of Housing, and single aboriginal's have been known to get housing over young families with kid's, so they are not seen as racist. To me this blows, this is the opposite of discrimination. And then to top it off they trash every house that they are given. My parent's old house was bought by the aboriginal co-op, and they turned it into a study house for 12-18 y/o's. Within weeks, this was just a party house for them to crash, with between 10-20 people crashing there when they were smashed so that they didn't have to go home, and this house has now been trashed and is woth jack. One of my aboriginal friends went there to study, and said it wasn't possible for the drinking etc.
I had three friends come down from Melbourne, and when five aboriginal's came up to us, demanding money and then trying to beat the sh@t out of us until, fortunately, the police came and intervened.
I have no grudges against anyone due to their race, and I always treat poeple the same no matter what their race or colour, but aboriginals need to earn respect the same as any other human being. They don't want to live in our society, and the government giving them extra money is not the answer. I don't pretend to know what is, but a little mutual respect and politeness would not go astray...
{sorry if a bit off topic, I just had to vent a little :\ )
[ 12 December 2002: Message edited by: mossy ]
[ 12 December 2002: Message edited by: mossy ]
 
Guys, as much as I agree with what you are saying, I don't think this thread needs to turn into a Aboriginal bashing forum.
I to lived in the country for many years, and know many first hand stories of what goes on.
But, everyone reciting them will do no good, and the word will get out that Bluelight is racist.
 
I wasn't trying to 'bash' aboriginals, i am simply stating that the majority of homeless people in my area (Cairns) are of aboriginal decent and that they too.. even though its in their blood.. have got off their arses and done something. So i guess anyone can, regardless of what their peers say.
Another case i just want to quickly mention because it disgusts me, was the case of a 19yr old aboriginal woman with a 2 yr old kid. The 2 yr old was found wandering a bad neighbourhood of cairns at 2am while the mother was out at a shopping centre looking for cigarette butts.
Sad.. very sad.. if someone can't support themselves they really shouldn't be having children and bringing them up into the same problems their parents have.
 
Well this has gone off on a tangent hasn't it? :P Kinda related in a way though...
It's interesting to hear people's experience on one side of the divide. My above posts don't contradict anything you guys have said - but I stand by the circumstances speil nevertheless.
Aight!
btw nezo in response to your question at the end of your first post, found this in The Big Issue today (and for anyone else that's interested):
Got a few hours to spare in your week?
Like to meet new people?
Collingwood Soup Van is looking for volunteers to help provide food and conversation, for a few hours, once a week, to some of the more disadvantaged members of our community.
Very social and great fun, it's an opportunity to meet and learn about people from many walks of life.
If you are between 18-60 and think you would like to join our friendly group of volunteers please email: [email protected] or call 0418 223 166 (between 5-7pm) for more information
:)
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[ 12 December 2002: Message edited by: yossarian.lives ]
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Must agree with ya russ... got a little sidetracked. Originally started as trying to say dont make excuses... etc.
I will point out I am not a racist person, and if it came across that way I apoligise. I do believe in what I said though.
And anyone in that area above gunna sign up?
 
if i have some silver in my pocket i will often drop it in the hat of the nearest beggar, or violin case of the nearest kid trying to earn some pocket money on brunswick street.
in a country like australia, there shouldn't be a need for people to live on the streets, or be in poverty. i don't know enough about the welfare systems here (having been fortunate enough never to have needed welfare assistance), however australia is incredibly wealthy, with plentiful supply of natural resources. whether poverty is a failing in the welfare system, education, or whatever, it should not occur in a country the size and relative population of australia.
i have spent time living in thailand and china over the past 2 years. these are countries where a large proportion of the population earns less per day than most of us probably spend on lunch. they survive, and raise families. the poverty in these places is beyond anything we could even dream of here. but these people survive, and mostly without begging (in shanghai, not bangkok). in shanghai people do anything to make enough to feed the family. i fail to see why less fortunate australians cannot do the same thing. it was mentioned earlier that many people end up on the streets due to mental illness - i understand this to be the case also.
when i have been overseas, i will often give food to beggars. a loaf of bread, a box of cereal, whatever. at least that way, i have done what i feel is necesary towards assisting someone who appears to be in need.
i personally think that the wealthier governments of the world should be doing more towards helping people - and not just people in poverty. there is far too much reliance on volunteers and the generosity of a few. the governments are the organisations in positions of power and influence to help the various causes. it makes me sick to see how much money is pumped into defense/military budgets, when across the world there are so many people in need. sure, guns might be able to protect people, but the won't put food the the mouths of a hungry person.
in nezo's case, i hope you're right, and she was genuinely in need. while it won't go far to solving any long-term problems, you may have made the difference to one girls life, even for a short time, and i think that'S probably equally important.
cheers.
[ 12 December 2002: Message edited by: Global ]
 
Sorry Psyentist, I don't bat for that side.
But I could do it for a fiver, so I can buy some crack.
 
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