pizzagate

[Scrofula]

I realized not even yr. boy Trump is in to this theory.

 

[LiquidMethod]

He's working behind the scenes. Pedophile busts (especially in high places) have been accelerating along with taking down trafficking rings.
The mainstream media is silent, hence your extreme ignorance..

 

[Erikmen]

You are calling him ignorant?

 

[LiquidMethod]

Yes that is apparent. I'd call him much worse than that but I'd get banned.

His continued presence and trolling in this thread is far worse than ignorance. It is not only a conscious effort to completely ignore some very alarming evidence and refusal to discuss it all rationally, but his sustained noise and inane comments are an attempt to derail this thread. This thread is about investigations into possible child trafficking and pedophilia. To ridicule that is to be complicit in these horrible acts, there's really no other way to explain it.

I do wish we could all discuss this scandal objectively without the trolling. I'm happy for someone to debunk it but you have to put in a bit of effort to do so and actually entertain the arguments presented.

 

[Scrofula]

Yes, I'll start "discussing" it objectively as soon as you offer evidence for "accelerating pedophile busts in high places" much less coordinated by Trump.

 

[alasdairm]

Investigate it. Just like we are calling for an investigation into others.

do you answer every single question you are asked here or address every point in every thread?

no? you cherry-pick your responses like absolutely everybody else. so shut up. seriously.

alasdair

 

[Scrofula]

And liquid, I already invited you to call me whatever you felt like or vent via PM, to which you haven't barely availed yourself. I'm not trying to trap you into getting yourself banned or anything, here or elsewhere. I'm not trying to piss you off for the sake of pissing you off. I just don't mind if that happens.

 

[LiquidMethod]

do you answer every single question you are asked here or address every point in every thread?

no? you cherry-pick your responses like absolutely everybody else. so shut up. seriously.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. I actually do attempt the answer all the questions asked of me. And I have lost count of how many questions I've asked you (and others) that you've refused to answer. So if we're playing 'who is open to answering the most questions asked of them' I win by a mile. The reason I am willing to answer them is because I've done my research on this subject and am confident finding references to back up my argument. And the reason that you all consistently dodge them is because the questions I ask generally expose stupid arguments and lack of knowledge. This is a pizzagate thread and that's what we are discussing. It's not a "you hurt my feelings thread by assuming my gender" - basically I'd like it if people honestly and maturely addressed the evidence, but that may be asking too much of the CE&P bluelighters (although much respect to the few people that did enter this thread and discussed it like adults)

And liquid, I already invited you to call me whatever you felt like or vent via PM, to which you haven't barely availed yourself. I'm not trying to trap you into getting yourself banned or anything, here or elsewhere. I'm not trying to piss you off for the sake of pissing you off. I just don't mind if that happens.

You're a massive troll. When someone speaks of a truth that makes you uncomfortable and you literally have no way to argue against it, you create noise by ridiculing the argument and insulting the intelligence of that person. What are you attempting to achieve by continually posting and trolling in this thread, about a subject that you have admitted multiple times that you do not believe in at all?
You're not attempting to debunk anything or look at the evidence, just re-stating that you think it's a hoax and offering more derision.
Is there something I'm missing?

Yes, I'll start "discussing" it objectively as soon as you offer evidence for "accelerating pedophile busts in high places" much less coordinated by Trump.

Your problem (one of many) is that you refuse to take any evidence seriously. You claim to want evidence yet you are a liar. You either don't read it or you dismiss it without actually properly addressing the content.
For example when I say that Trump isn't racist, I asked for people to counter my claim. A few of you posted examples of what you thought were racism (now listen closely because here's the important part) I addressed those specific examples, analyzed them and explained why they were not racist. Now you may completely disagree with my findings, but the point is I actually did it (or tried to). Now if you did want to hang around in this thread and do something constructive instead of being a pedo-deflecting troll, what you should be doing is trying to explain why the specific examples of pedophilic behavior that we have linked is this thread are actually not pedophilic behavior.

Can you do that? I don't think so.
And that is not only from your lack of trying, it is because it is not possible to explain away all the disgusting shit that we have uncovered.

Why the MSM Is Ignoring Trump's Sex Trafficking Busts
MSM Ignoring Trump’s Mass Pedophile Arrests! More arrests to come!

I will admit, I thought and was hoping for these arrests to accelerate far more quickly. Even though the mainstream media completely ignores these stories and does not advertise them (which proves a cover-up as these stories would attract huge ratings), there are too many people that are aware of this scandal by now.

And an important question that I am asking of everyone (which will not receive an answer):
If you found out one of your buddies was a notorious pedophile, would you remain friends with them?

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

I realized not even yr. boy Trump is in to this theory.

Probably because he's part of the pedophile conspiracy.

Note:

1. An accusation of child molestation.
2. Accusations of molesting women.
3. Hangs out with people later found to be child molesters.

By this thread's standards, he's a pedophile.

 

[LiquidMethod]

Do you mean Jeffrey Epstein? Trump banned him from his private club for harassing the young daughter of the a member there.
Trump flew to Epstein's private island once and then never again. Hillary flew there 6 times and Bill more than 20 - so does that mean they are much bigger pedos?

By the way, this is not the defend Trump from pedophilia thread.
If Trump is a pedophile then I want him brought to justice too. If you treat this as a partisan problem then you are a problem.

All pedophiles are bad (but not according to the New York Times or Salon who have published pedophiles writing sob stories about how the world hates them and that they should be accepted).

And to completely ignore the entirety of this thread just to say "Trump may be a pedo too" is pretty sad.
He had some charges brought against him during the election but they were dropped. And the way the MSM were going after Trump last year, if he was legitimately a pedophile then we all would have definitely seen the proof and heard about it - ad nauseum.

 

[Scrofula]

I consider Trump the lowest of possible bars for credibility, and Pizzagate fails even that. But by all means show clips of Biden looking lecherous, ignore Trump looking just as gross.

(Liquid, I don't consider videos of either evidence of anything, and do not accuse Trump of being a pedophile, although there actually is anecdotal evidence for that.)

So it's not like my training and employment as a former scientist have skewed my criticism of evidence too far; even the guy who can go on camera and imagine three million illegal voters in California conspiring together to win Clinton the popular vote (and missing the electoral vote somehow) doesn't think this is a real thing.

When you present evidence, Liquid, it is not "evidence" but just like a story of a different pedophile totally unrelated to this. You cast a giant Venn diagram across all of alt-right news, trawling for "underage + pizza" and presenting it as evidence for Pizzagate. But none of it is. You link to stories that are secondary sources at best, all from editorials. It is confirmation bias distilled into a purified . . . liquid.

And just like in a different thread, your inability to admit you might have had the story wrong, even the slightest bit off from what you originally thought it was, leads you to making ridiculous on-their-face claims and defenses of reprehensible characters. Because you refuse to admit, in this case, you've been had. You know it on some level. You are not gaining any pride or repute by maintaining your obstinancy. You are gaining the sick fascination of people like me who used to wonder how far you would take it. And yet you remain.

I'll admit, you need an out. A couple people, namely Mr. Waterfall, tried to bring up a real discussion on the distinction between pedophile and child molester. I think it's an important one. If you take up THAT discussion, with it's very very wide net, you will be able to accurately accuse me of defending (some) pedophiles. That's a major bone, right? You're dying to accuse me of that and be correct, yes?

 

[alasdairm]

And to completely ignore the entirety of this thread just to say "Trump may be a pedo too" is pretty sad.

that is interesting coming from a contributor whose standard response to criticism of trump is "hillary did something too".

sad!

alasdair

 

[Jabberwocky]

Is that your argument? Lol

wasn't an argument. Alasdair posted an article about Trumps pedo escapades a while back. Might be true, I don't know. It was unfair of me to assume he had a grin on his face while doing it. Sorry Alasdair.

 

[Erikmen]

But you were talking about how he feels, he's the only one who knows that.

 

[LiquidMethod]

that is interesting coming from a contributor whose standard response to criticism of trump is "hillary did something too".

If you want to discuss Trump's alleged pedophilia then take it to the Trump thread. Usually I point out Hillary's crimes to expose the constant hypocrisy that I witness here.

But by all means show clips of Biden looking lecherous,

Inappropriately touching very young children is "looking lecherous" according to you? No wonder you cannot recognize pedophilia. You failed in your first sentence. Get out of the thread already

ignore Trump looking just as gross.

Cool story bro. Show me where Trump is touching little kids inappropriately on camera. Oh, you can't? That's because you're a liar.

a giant Venn diagram across all of alt-right news, trawling for "underage + pizza" and presenting it as evidence for Pizzagate.

You only see what you want to see, which is fuck-all. Why haven't you commented on Alefantis' instagram pictures? Tell me that they're all completely fine and appropriate for the proprietor of a kid's pizza restaurant.

your inability to admit you might have had the story wrong,

I might be completely wrong about all this. But you're not addressing the content of the circumstantial evidence, so with all the diarrhea you've spewed over the past 10 pages, you have not once attempted to speak about specific points of evidence ergo you fail, and that only makes the scandal seem more legitimate as nobody has properly debunked it.

You know it on some level.

I know which conspiracies are worthy of investigation. For exampe:
"No planes hit the WTC they were holograms" = unworthy
"There are pedophiles in the government who are engaging in institutionalized human trafficking" = worth looking into.

You're dying to accuse me of that and be correct, yes?

I don't care enough about you, all I wish is that you'd leave the thread as you have literally nothing to add.
I don't need to accuse you of that either as your own words expose your beliefs - you do not care if there are pedophile rings in the government as long as they're run by Democrats. What you're experiencing is some type of cognitive dissonance, evident by how sweeping and general your faux-debunking troll-comments are.

I'm sure you've never heard of Nancy Schaefer. She was a Georgia State Senator who was blowing the whistle on institutionalized child trafficking conducted by CPS, the organization whose responsibility it is to protect children.
She was then shot in the head.
Just a coincidence.

 

[LiquidMethod]

But you were talking about how he feels, he's the only one who knows that.

When people write their thoughts down, others can use their brains to analyze how that person may feel about certain things. It is one of the foundations of psychology.
I'm not sure why this is such a difficult concept for some of us to understand.

 

[Scrofula]

If you want to discuss Trump's alleged pedophilia then take it to the Trump thread. Usually I point out Hillary's crimes to expose the constant hypocrisy that I witness here.

Wow, that whoosh of the point going over your head could rival Irma.

Inappropriately touching very young children

There are three unnecessary qualifiers and a verb subject to debate, which even together does not equal instant pedophilia, "in your very second line". Not to mention, you did not start this thread.

Cool story bro. Show me where Trump is touching little kids inappropriately on camera. Oh, you can't? That's because you're a liar.

Yeah bro, I think the whole Earth has seen the photos of him with his own daughter (add incest by your standards of proof) and heard the tapes of him on Howard Stern talking about the perks of being in the Little Miss American or WTF dressing rooms. You've seen 'em too. You cut out the part where I said that too is NOT proof of Trump being a pedophile, just gross.

You only see what you want to see, which is fuck-all. Why haven't you commented on Alefantis' instagram pictures? Tell me that they're all completely fine and appropriate for the proprietor of a kid's pizza restaurant.

Black pots and kettles. I already said this alefantis character could be photo'd felating infant boys, it wouldn't be evidence of the Clintons ordering NGOs to kidnap Haitian pretend-orphans to transport back to his restaurant, chained up in the non-existent basement, using an ingredient-based code to allow the world's politicians to order them for sex, said menu shared by a public figure in his gmail account; nor would it nullify the reddit account where the story was first invented.

I might be completely wrong about all this. But you're not addressing the content of the circumstantial evidence, so with all the diarrhea you've spewed over the past 10 pages, you have not once attempted to speak about specific points of evidence ergo you fail, and that only makes the scandal seem more legitimate as nobody has properly debunked it.

Wow, could this be a breakthrough? ANyway, I just did address the "content of the circumstantial evidence" you presented, it's all I do here; the word you're looking for is logorrhea, and as i just disagreed in the same sentence, pointed out all your "points of evidence" so far are not evidence, circumstantial or otherwise, and as posted above, every major news outlet has, in fact, debunked this story. I even gave you links to save a one-second google search. To repeat, the Snopes link includes excerpts from the archived reddit account where the story was first invented.

I know which conspiracies are worthy of investigation. For exampe:
"No planes hit the WTC they were holograms" = unworthy
"There are pedophiles in the government who are engaging in institutionalized human trafficking" = worth looking into.

I'm genuinely glad to see you have some standards. And that you call these "conspiracies". Hopefully you can parse statements like the last one, to see how the premises escalate in tone and get editorialized. There are certainly pedophiles in many governments. Are they engaging in anything? Human trafficking? Leaps to "institutionalized" human trafficking. To even posit that requires you handle the others first. And none of these statements can be investigated effectively by a random non-citizen. You've "called for" an investigation about a hundred times. We can't do one either, or make another one happen.

I don't care enough about you, all I wish is that you'd leave the thread as you have literally nothing to add.
I don't need to accuse you of that either as your own words expose your beliefs - you do not care if there are pedophile rings in the government as long as they're run by Democrats. What you're experiencing is some type of cognitive dissonance, evident by how sweeping and general your faux-debunking troll-comments are.

You appear to care a great deal what I think. Also, that is not what cognitive dissonance is, if I was even experiencing anything. I would love if annoying people disappeared from my life. But you yourself did not start this thread and have added nothing to it besides whining. Finally, that's not what trolling is.

I'm sure you've never heard of Nancy Schaefer. She was a Georgia State Senator who was blowing the whistle on institutionalized child trafficking conducted by CPS, the organization whose responsibility it is to protect children.
She was then shot in the head.
Just a coincidence.

It is just a coincidence. Her death was ruled a murder-suicide by her husband. Her beef with CPS seems to have more to do with Christian fundamentalist attitudes and riling her base for a senate run than uncovering any sex-trafficking ring. That tidbit only appears on sites associated with pizzagate, although even if true it would have no relation to pizzagate. Yes, sex-trafficking rings exist in the world, they even spawned a movie franchise; they are not related to Podesta emails.

When people write their thoughts down, others can use their brains to analyze how that person may feel about certain things. It is one of the foundations of psychology.
I'm not sure why this is such a difficult concept for some of us to understand.

Are you a trained psychologist? Or just an undergrad studying psychology?

 

[cduggles]

This is a pizzagate thread and that's what we are discussing. It's not a "you hurt my feelings thread by assuming my gender"

Liquid, you assumed my gender (biological sex actually), immediately denied doing exactly that, and you brought it into your crack "investigation". Here where you aspire to gaslight Bluelighters to rise up and do some undefined thing due to your inchoate, rambling conspiracy theory spam. Great job.

Allow me, as you so liberally have, to rephrase. Telling someone to "grow a pair of balls" when they are female is insulting and sexist. It's something someone who doesn't know much yet about "girls" would write because they can't handle the fact that their whackjob crusade is a running, bad joke. And some users have the guts to let them know. (You may use the term.)

Try telling a black person to "grow some white skin". Report back. Pics please.

Oh sorry, is this one of the many threads where you need to dominate by whining incessantly about not being called a "Nazi" and you throw down your pathetic card about being a Jew?

I pointed out your thoughtless, sexist comment because one day you might possibly interact with a female irl and she won't like this phrase, but she will remember it. And think you're an asshole. Forever.

Try accepting responsibility just once for your own words and their impact and simply apologize instead of making shit poor excuses and mocking someone. That's what real men do.

If you need "evidence" of how much I value your opinion, this is the thread where I was referred to as "someone cover[ing] for pedophiles, human traffickers, or child abusers". I just ignored it, frankly because it was you. And moved on, like a normal person.

Yet something in me still wants to educate you. I'm a giver.

Regarding the friendship bracelet that Vice President Biden gave President Obama, even Reddit users realized the charm on Biden's birthday present was a piece of pie from a kit, although some insist it was cake. #piegate #cakegate

 

[LiquidMethod]

lol grow up.
I knew the balls comment would get your knickers in a twist I said it because you incessantly troll and mock me.
The other comment was directed at the incredulous ones that take offence at others assuming what they are thinking.
Instead of feigning outrage why don't you just state what you are thinking instead?
I ask questions to let people destroy their own arguments and there are a few people here that leave most of my questions unanswered.
stay on topic plz

Regarding the friendship bracelet that Vice President Biden gave President Obama, even Reddit users realized the charm on Biden's birthday present was a piece of pie from a kit, although some insist it was cake

OK, it's a piece of pie.
Care to address Biden touching little girls inappropriately on video?
Did you watch it, and if so is everything cool there in your opinion?

 

[LiquidMethod]

Not to mention, you did not start this thread.

I was going to start a thread but I was a good boy that did a search first, unfortunately the OP posted some terrible videos, and I would've titled the thread "Pedogate/Pizzagate". I would ask a mod to please change the title but I do not like my chances. I started posting evidence on page 1 and I was instantly insulted by multiple mods saying that I was stupid or needed mental help.
I was simply discussing the topic and had not insulted anyone at this point.

and heard the tapes of him on Howard Stern talking about the perks of being in the Little Miss American or WTF dressing rooms.

I don't know what this is, got a source? You are claiming he described the perks of being in the Little Miss American dressing rooms?

Yeah bro, I think the whole Earth has seen the photos of him with his own daughter (add incest by your standards of proof) You've seen 'em too. You cut out the part where I said that too is NOT proof of Trump being a pedophile, just gross.

"Gross" is subjective and you are using it to conflate completely different themes. What photos? Please provide evidence to back up your claims (as I do constantly) because your ability to recognize pedophilia has proven to be extremely suspect. Trump was a billionaire playboy and you seriously need to learn how to tell the difference between someone being sleazy and someone being inappropriate with very young children. They are completely distinct and your willingness to blur their lines is disgusting.

I already said this alefantis character could be photo'd felating infant boys, it wouldn't be evidence of the Clintons ordering NGOs to kidnap Haitian pretend-orphans to transport back to his restaurant, chained up in the non-existent basement, using an ingredient-based code to allow the world's politicians to order them for sex, said menu shared by a public figure in his gmail account; nor would it nullify the reddit account where the story was first invented.

These are your type of fallback comments exposing your transparent and pathetic MO. You combine something factual with a bunch of nonsense and false claims. The Clintons released child traffickers in Haiti which is a fact. Researchers did find a connection to Alefantis through the orphanage but that's beside the point. If Alefantis is a pedo and the DNC were holding fundraisers at his restaurant along with being very close friends with him, you don't think that is newsworthy? Take your IDNC hat off and put your TV ratings hat on. And you never answered the question I asked of all the detractors - would you remain friends with someone after you found out that they were a pedophile?

ANyway, I just did address the "content of the circumstantial evidence" you presented

Liar. You ignore almost everything except the most innocuous facts.

every major news outlet has, in fact, debunked this story. I even gave you links to save a one-second google search. To repeat, the Snopes link includes excerpts from the archived reddit account where the story was first invented.

Why do you keep repeating that like it actually means something or that you secretly believe it? I tore apart your articles. And do you mean the Washington Post (where John Podesta works) or the NYT that hired a professional pedo cover-upper from the BBC? Your pitiful - I don't even want to say attempts - to debunk this story expose just how trapped you are in your echo chamber. "The news I trust has said it has been debunked - so obviously that is true. Why does this guy not believe them and keep posting links?" None of those articles actually address the evidence or mention the lack of any police investigation whatsoever. They just say it has been debunked. Well FOIA requests prove that you are full of shit.

You've "called for" an investigation about a hundred times. We can't do one either, or make another one happen.

There has been a concerted and intense investigation online ever since the story broke. Where do you think I found all the mountains of leads and evidence that I've been consistently posting? Oh that's right sorry, you haven't consciously bothered to understand any of it. After the story broke on Reddit and was censored it moved to VOAT.

You appear to care a great deal what I think.

I care about the brainwashed ramblings of a crackhead in an echo chamber about the same as I do a bit of underwear fluff stuck to my left testicle. You were useful as a sounding board as I was able to go into far more detail with the evidence. Thanks for that but I'm quite over feeding your meth delusions so this will be my last message to you. Unless you change your mind and start discussing the topic seriously. So this will be my last message to you.

It is just a coincidence. Her death was ruled a murder-suicide by her husband. Her beef with CPS seems to have more to do with Christian fundamentalist attitudes and riling her base for a senate run than uncovering any sex-trafficking ring. That tidbit only appears on sites associated with pizzagate, although even if true it would have no relation to pizzagate. Yes, sex-trafficking rings exist in the world, they even spawned a movie franchise; they are not related to Podesta emails.

It's adorable how naive you are. There there son, of course Vladimir Putin is the only one in the world that has political opponents murdered.
Definitely not a reason to listen to what she was saying anyway..